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4x4 Related Groups => Build Ups => Topic started by: JackstandJohnny on September 28, 2011, 08:52:29 AM
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never build a ZJ, it is costly, a pain in the butt and still barely capable ;) and they break, have crap trannies and D35 rear ends.
why bother?
cause i like em.
this is the new build. it will be fairly tame. 33s, 4" lift, winch and rear 8.8, NP 242 swap, some armour etc. i want to keep it very streetable. anyways, pics!
bone stock on 27s......
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fixed some cancer; this is just a patch fix until i cut the rockers out and put in sliders
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Rough Country Winch plate. this thing is cool. it bolts into the stock tow hook spot and into the rad support. for 225$ it looks pretty cool!
basically this bolts into the 'frame' and you cut the stock bumper to sit around it. i will add towhooks tonight.
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The lift is a rough country Xflex. It came with 6 adjustable arms. Install in the rear was a snap. Front was a bitch. Mostly cause short arms suck and the coils were really long. The arms are beefy but the joints have some sort of rubber bushing and I doubt they’ll last long. However I think they will be compatible with johnnyjoints, so they will be replaced. I also put in an RE front adjustable trackbar, some extended YJ brake lines in the front, and ordered up some adjustable uppers from Jay. I added a .75” spacer up front to compensate for the winch but I might add one in the rear too. I will also be making swaybar discos.
Overall, the lift is ok; its not long arms and does ride a little harsh. I’m sure good shocks would help. Bilsteins eventually maybe.
Tires are 265x75r16 Goodyear silent Armours, grabbed them off kijiji. These will work for the road. I will also grab some 33s as soon as some funds are cleared up. They don’t rub on the street. i will add some action pics whenever i get out on the trail; these will do for now. I’ll be cutting some fender out for that, stay tuned ;)
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Lookin' good Johnny!!! Jay will have some of the IRO ZJ rockrails coming soon. I asked him to bring them in for my ZJ but since the Rango is still not sold you might as well have em. Besides, I wanna do something to fix up my rockers before I put on the rails. Thinking I'm gunna be doing the RC winch mount too!! Would rather do an ARB but durn they expensive >:( and I seem to be stuck with a shiny Champion that won't fit in an ARB ::).
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i want to keep it very streetable.
Thats definately relieving, cuz we are all comfortable with you web-wheeling, and not out on the trail ;)
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Do the Coors Lights come stock with that bumper?
Do they have one that comes with Crown Royal? If so, I want one!
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Looks good, get them 33's on her.
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Do the Coors Lights come stock with that bumper?
Do they have one that comes with Crown Royal? If so, I want one!
no crown, just coors ;)
33s soon Raf, just need to sell some stuff and get some cashola
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hey Johnny, you mentioned you were putting in a 8.8 rear, what's in the front currently? you sticking with that?
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Not sure if you got an 8.8 already but,
Got one sitting in the garage for sale.
3.55 gears, New disks and pads as of 2009(just before i hydro locked the explorer it was in :P )
Pm me if your interested
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Nice Build. Thats along the lines of how I want to build my 5.9 project. Totally streetable.
I hear you on the costly/pain in the but thing. Everything costs more than an XJ and not as many used parts floating around. Also even with long arms my ZJ isn't as stable as my with rear leafs was. Some days I seriously consider putting leaf packs in the back of the ZJ.
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Nice Build. Thats along the lines of how I want to build my 5.9 project. Totally streetable.
I hear you on the costly/pain in the but thing. Everything costs more than an XJ and not as many used parts floating around. Also even with long arms my ZJ isn't as stable as my with rear leafs was. Some days I seriously consider putting leaf packs in the back of the ZJ.
Using the bigger swaybar in the rear is supposed to help alot...Addico or something like that I think. Would be nice if there were quick disconnects for rear too or would that make things too unstable on the trails?
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yep i hear ya clay. ZJ = pain in the butt!
rob i'd run a rear swaybar of some sort; they are really unstable without one!
steve, the 8.8 i will eventually grab off jamey. its 3.73 gears so i should be able to swap it in. i'll order up an IRO bracket kit and then goto town. the front i'm just staying with a D30 for now. only goin with 33s so it should be fine.
today i'm starting on my np 231 swap ;)
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I run with no sway bars in my lifted '93, the ram assist steering in the front is in the way of the sway bar links and everytime I got really flexed out I snapped the rear one.
Its pretty unstable with LA, 8" of lift, no limiting straps and no sway bars. In fact I just picked up an ADDACO sway bar today from Jay. Its actually for a TJ but the stock one was too wide, REALLY close to the inner sideswalls on my 36X13.5 tires. Even with the 65" wide rear D60.
The TJ Addaco sway bar is way thicker than the ZJ one and much narrower. So I'm hoping it will be just what I need.
I would say that for wheeling a ZJ you should have the rear hooked up, the stock one is pretty thin so it shouldn't limit things too much.
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It looks deadly buddy, maybe it just takes four or five ZJs to get one right! :P
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It looks deadly buddy, maybe it just takes four or five ZJs to get one right! :P
this won't be done right either ;) cmon lol.
so update, tomorrow i'm gonna wap the 231 in; i swapped inputs already from a donor 249, it was easy as pie. i still need some ujoint axle shafts to get rid of the crap CVs up front
however, don't know when i'll be able to get 33s on her or start on the rear 8.8 swap. currently unemployed :( probably not the greatest thing to be spending money on right now.........
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Thats always the way. When you are working you don't have time, when you are not working you don't have the money.
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hey man u still got your original arms? need a set for some measuring and such probally gonna be ordering the coils and building the rest like we where talkin on saturday.....
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sorry bud, no stock stuff left!
So, I got the 231 swap done. but i don't have any pics. not that there is much to see. but i talk about it ;)
first thing, man its nice to be able to turn again. and it feels a bunch more peppy.
check out this link, this is what i followed for the most part http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/transfer-case-swap-info-np249-np231-np242-685644/
Overall it went smooth. first up was pulling the input from the old 249. the case came apart no problem. then i pulled apart the 231. same deal. the shifter in this is a lot easier than the 242 to get out. so i pulled the input from the 231 for the one out of the 249. it dropped in no problem. reinstalled the snap rings on the outside of the input and now time to put the cases back together. note, i had a spare 249 kicking around that i pulled the input out of so i wouldn't have a jeep sitting without a transfer case in it. not that it mattered; it went very smooth.
now for pulling the tcase it was straight forward; pull the drive shafts and all sensors. at this point i cracked 5 of the bolts on the tcase loose. just so it would be easier. there is one bolt thats a pain on the passenger side at the top. to get to it, i dropped the tranny crossmember. it makes it easier. with access to all bolts now, i unbolted the tcase and pulled it out of the tranny (hehe) note, there is a lot of fluid that will come out of the tranny so make sure you have extra on hand. swapped the 'new' 231 in an bolted her up.
the only issue i've had thus far is the linkage; the little lever on the 231 did not have the little rubber grommet, so i have to find one. however, when i get my hands on one, then i can do the linkage. there is enough play in the 249 linkage though that it should work out just fine once i get that lil' grommet. i might crawl underneith and take a few pics later.
overall i'm pretty happy with it.!
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I think I still have my stock arms and the Rubicon Express aftermarket ones.
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For those top t-case bolts I've found that after you break them loose a stubby wrench works well.
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thank god for makita cordless impacts and lots of extensions and swivels and if that fails me the stubby ratchets wrenchs are gold done one to many tcases slash transmission installs
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I think I still have my stock arms and the Rubicon Express aftermarket ones.
might take u up on those some time soon looking for something width wise on brackets gonna be makin joints to bolt into most aftermarket arms.... so dont need the arms permanently its just i cant take mine out yet cause i am driving it now that the weather and the car arent to happy
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For those top t-case bolts I've found that after you break them loose a stubby wrench works well.
thats precisely what i used for the top bolt. it was a pain! i bought a ratcheting 9/16" wrench for the others. that made it go quick.
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If you're in need of brackets and such I have a doner Z that could be stripped of such parts. It has the 249 brackets though.
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ugh. had a big writeup done up then the computer died...... it must be a jeep computer........
so, 231s done up.
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249............
gutted 249 for the input
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231 installed. no prob. linkage was a bitch but with a new grommet, it was all good
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just need to install the adjustable upper control arms which should be in tomorrow! and find a ujoint driveshaft and i'm golden!
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update;
put in the adjustable uppers, rides much better now; i think i need to do an alignment professionally though.
also go the front driveshaft done up too. its riding good. overall i love the 231 tcase. its great.
hopefully soon i can get some 33s on it, and start on the rear 8.8 install :)
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hey i am new to the site, i am about to start my own zj build and i am wondering where did u got that 4 inch lift and what did u pay for it if u dont mind me asking??
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www.claytonsoffroad.com
www.ironrockoffroad.com
www.roughcountry.com
www.rubiconexpress.com
get used to these sites, and start pricing. hopefully you have a big budget ;)
i went with a 4" xflex from rough country. i've also added adjustable front uppers and a track bar up front. overall price with shipping i'm around 1500$
just go long arm. :)
i'll be runnin 33s on it at somepoint. after i swap my rear D44a in (all you haters can be hatin' lol)
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(http://jesad.com/img/life/haters-gonna-hate/haters-gonna-hate06.jpg)
That cat actually looks kinda like you, Johnny.
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thanks for the heads up
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so update.
did some stuff.
finally did a CB. thanks to Toddoo (W SQuared) and Trev (immortal) for helpin wire it up, and drill a hole in my roof.
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it works pretty good. like the mount, pretty cool.
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update:
decided to ditch the all terrains and went with a new MT. ordered up some Michey Thompson MTZs in the 33" flavour, thanks to Dale (ESI) they are on procomp wheels. 4.5" backspace, thinking its not enough but will be good for now. some poser pics coming up.
i added a rear 1" spacer to level out the rear and make some new room. i still need to do some work here. i need to do some fender 'modification' and add some more bumpstop up front (haven't put any in yet) lift is now settled in at abou 4.5" or so i think. i will post pics after i hack out some fender as well :)
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Look nice:D
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so now some goodies:d
picked up an 8.8 from Jamey (the machinist) today :) it is a 3.73 gear ratio and should match up good in the ZeeJay. it does have drum brakes however, i can swap my disks over from my D44a to make them work and retain my disks!
Jamey also tossed in a full spool too. at this time im unsure if i will run the spool or not; i would have to get rid of the c clip axles, so i'm pondering running a super 88 kit too.
or an aussie, i haven't decided yet to be honest.
also picked up the ironrockoffroad 8.8 bracket kit from jeepsgrand on the board (his jeep met its tragic end, in my garage actually) i will tell you, it is a beefy kit. i will have to go talk to Jay soon :D
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looking good..... so yeah when it comes to that truss if u want i can talk to clay and see if he will burn it on one day for u....
we all know what happens when welds dont penetrate.... jumps into time machine goes back to ttc 2006
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so quick update. burnt in the brackets on the 8.8 and welded the tubes with a nickel rod. that was a PITA. but done, looks not half bad. also grabbed some brake brackets from pnp for my discs. however the ebrake backing plates were fubared. i'm debating just leaving the ebrake assembly completely off. might as well, seeing as im ditching ABS too ;)
so just needs me a locker now. sticking with 3.73 gears. right now i'm not sure if i wanna go with an aussie rear and elocker front, or elockers all around........
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Looks great Johnny! Finally some progress eh ;) Beatin me to my axles :(
Is that POR15 on there or did ya rattle it?
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tremclad baby. all the way.
i'll be locked front and rear, bored of this jeep and selling this one before yours is done :P ;)
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tremclad baby. all the way.
i'll be locked front and rear, bored of this jeep and selling this one before yours is done :P ;)
But at least I wheeled mine ;D
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once and its been sitting since :p its ok Simon. i know you want my jackstand title ;) at least your XJ looks good unlike all those other ugly red ones ;)
hopefully there will be some more progress now that we have the house stuff settled. i've got a garage full of parts ready to go, and hopefully some sliders built by apeman here soon. would like to be ready to beat on it for the summer.
still have:
front ds to swap
TJ shafts
sliders
rear bumper (pook!)
couple leaks to fix (rear main and tcase front output)
for the axles, i have to finish the 8.8. that includes
brakes: (have em, should be fine now)
elocker installed
install in jeep
add rear adj. trackbar.
other fun stuff:
i hope to do front elocker soon
OBA
steering of some sort.
i guess the list never ends
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You realize that a green ZJ is the equivalent of a red XJ in the Grand Cherokee scene? Seems like 3/4s of the ZJs out the are that forest green.
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You realize that a green ZJ is the equivalent of a red XJ in the Grand Cherokee scene? Seems like 3/4s of the ZJs out the are that forest green.
:D
do NOT tempt me to gator guard the whole thing black ;)
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You realize that a green ZJ is the equivalent of a red XJ in the Grand Cherokee scene? Seems like 3/4s of the ZJs out the are that forest green.
:D
Where's the 'like' button? ;)
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do NOT tempt me to gator guard the whole thing black ;)
Sorry mine's black. You have to pick another color. Try red. I hear its popular.
;)
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so 8.8 is all ready to go. Spartan locker is installed and she's put back together. just waitin on a rear track bar and some wheel spacers, should be boltin' her in beginning of march :)
pics later
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for the axles, i have to finish the 8.8. that includes
brakes: (have em, should be fine now)
sticking with the drum breaks that came on it? or swapping in some disks?
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drums = ghey
discs = well, they are stock ZJ jeep discs, so not much better.
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You gonna weld up and redrill the backing plates for the swap?
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took backing plates off a disc braked exploder. i have some D44a ones but they most certainly don't bolt up.
so its all bolted up right now, i'll use the calipers/discs/pads from my current one. if they don't fit (they should) then i go buy new crap. no biggie ;)
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8.8 is all bolted up. oh how i missed the 'click click click' of an auto locker.
i'll do an update with pics and stuff later tonight.
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Or you could just bring it out for some chili saturday. ..
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gotta work Aaron, sorry amigo.
couple pics
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looking good :)
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Very nice, almost done ey?
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looking good :)
thanks buddy :)
Bradley, yes its all done and installed :) i'm gonna go take some poser pics later. probably in a parking lot..... at a mall..... flexed out on a parking curb ;)
so i dialed in the front end today. adjusted the toe in and upper control arms, and track bar cause apparently i'm blind and it was off. its sitting pretty good now. i'm really happy with how its riding. up to 140 today with no vibes what so ever. rear end is a little loud though. not howlin but it ain't quiet. bearings were good, so i might have to recheck backlash and stuff. hope i don't have to pull the carrier again until i do gears and elocker.
the spartan locker in the rear is ok. its loud though. you can hear it click around corners and tight turns. doesn't bind however, and for general driving, i can't even tell its there. for a cheap mod i think its worth it. kind of wish i had gone with an elocker though.. only things i'm waitin on now are a JKS track bar which i don't really need in the rear, and a driveshaft spacer from IRO cause my shafts a lil' short (thats what she said)
also, i swapped the rough country crappy shocks for some bilsteins. ride is 100% better. ride is almost stock at 5" of lift. i'm likin it!
more to do tonight/tomorrow though. going to put my newish driveshaft in to get the CV one out of there (run the CV one as a spare) and gonna pull my CV axleshafts out for some XJ units with the bigger ujoints.
pretty close to be dialed in and ready for trail use :) overall its goin pretty good; and almost ready :)
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put the ujoint axles in and new driveshaft. jeeps good to go.
had her out at waiparous and she ran great. thinkin long arms now though ;)
poser pic
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and on an unrelated note,
some of you may remember this ---> (http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/DSCF0056.jpg)
she's back home now. have some work to do to her, but she's running pretty well :)
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I am glad to hear the first run went well, hope to c u out on the trails, it will b nice to c another zj out there
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No long arms and covered in Rough Country = Gay ???
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i'll take lockers and rough country over long arms and open diffs.
OR....... maybe i'll just do both
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been a while.
did some stuff.
Pook was good enough to fab me up a rear bumper. pretty sturdy, i've hit it a few times ;) its all tied into the hitch as well, so it should hold up.
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and got busy this weekend too.. did some front end work. i'm going to do a write up on jeepforum and i'll post a link.
basically, i cut out all the sheet metal on the underside of the ZJ. now theres lots of room to flex. its also pretty sturdy.........
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/IMG_0162.jpg) yes thats jacked up on the lift... didn't even budge
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heres a link to build up
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f13/front-end-beef-zj-bumper-fender-mods-1396374/#post13905584
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A ZJ Pre-Runner? :)
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A ZJ Pre-Runner? :)
No, this is what happens when he gets ahold of a 6 pack and a plasma cutter.
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No, this is what happens when he gets ahold of a 6 pack and a plasma cutter.
more like an 18 pack..... PHill drank his share ;)
do you know how nerve racking it is to cut that close to uniobody framerails? one slip and bye bye ZJ. lol. i was kind of going for a prerunner look i guess Todd. mostly, because its so low, i wanted to be able to hit stuff to bounce up over it.
and i cut all the unibody crap out front so that there is more room for the tire to hit/climb obstacles instead of hitting ugly sheet metal.
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You got a lot of cutting left before you get rid of all the guly sheet metal. ;)
I kinda like it, Johnny. It's like a ZJ that's lost a bunch of weight.
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A picture of where the vapour canister is now would be gret to see.
Nice work on the metal too.
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A picture of where the vapour canister is now would be gret to see.
Nice work on the metal too.
no pics dale. to lazy. but i just unbolted it and put it right where the stock airbox was. i'm running a K&N so theres lots of room
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It's like a ZJ that's lost a bunch of weight.
Like it's owner. Good job working the gut off John.
The ZJ diet plus your weight loss equals what? Like 50 HP ?
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Slim and trim. 8)
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that looks good Johnny, rock sliders next?
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yep, sliders hopefully soon. i have 35' of tube left ;)
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be sure to put up pics of the rock slides when u r done, i am still looking for inspiration
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Thing is awesome, and I don't really like ZJs. But this one beat Anorexia (Terrible joke, I know). I like the bumpers, and I really need a hoist!
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that looks good Johnny, rock sliders next?
sliders are done. hung out at Phils and did some drinking, shooting, and these too. pretty simple, nothing crazy. might add a kicker at some point, maybe. donno.
pics.
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for the install, there are 4 kickers to the 'frame' and the kickers are welded straight to it, as well as the pinch seam on the underside. notched the pinch seam so the tube would fit. they fit pretty well. tubing was 2x2" for the slider, and the kickers are 1.75" dom, because i have lots left ;)
they work good enough, and will save my rusted to crap rockers from falling off i guess haha. i might add the kicker just slo i have a side step of sorts lol
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looking great johnny. im looking to do the same thing with mine but i will be cutting out the rusted rockers. let me know if you wanna clear out some of the left over tubing ;)
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cutting out the rockers looks like a lot of time and effort. this was more of a 'i'm bored, lets drink some beer and weld crap to my jeep' kind of thing.
i still have some tube left, but its mine mwahahahaha. not sure what i'll use it for. :)
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cutting out the rockers looks like a lot of time and effort. this was more of a 'i'm bored, lets drink some beer and weld crap to my jeep' kind of thing.
i still have some tube left, but its mine mwahahahaha. not sure what i'll use it for. :)
you can sell the tube to me at $1.99 per foot ;D
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The ZJ is looking great buddy! I dig the fearless approach to sheetmetal surgery. 8)
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haha sorry raf, the 20' i have left is at phils shop, and will likely stay with him forever until he builds a tube buggy.
seanner, i'm done welding metal to this thing. its getting heavy lol. so yes, maybe i'll find some more to cut.!
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more crap welded to my jeep. actually its not welded yet. this is my swing down tire carrier. i will be (ok phill will be) welding a second hitch the onto my hitch 14" to the left, so the tire sits directly behind the driver side. and it will allow full access to the back. but ya, basic model. and about 50$ in materials compared to a 1200$ bumper!
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/tirecarrier.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/tirecarrier1.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/tirecarrier2.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/tirecarrier3.jpg)
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Clean, simple, lightweight, and totally functional. I like it!
My only question is why you would put something like that on a ZJ. What with being functional, it doesn't fit in with the theme of your vehicle ;D
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Clean, simple, lightweight, and totally functional. I like it!
My only question is why you would put something like that on a ZJ. What with being functional, it doesn't fit in with the theme of your vehicle ;D
:'( it will hold a 35 ;)
mostly its just for camping. i'm going to get phill to weld a second reciever on there so i can still use my rear hitch for recovery etc. likely i won't keep it on all the time. but maybe ;)
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just a thought but make sure its not in your line of site... u dont wanna make your self a huge blind spot and write off your rig....
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That's true.. ZJs tend to go backwards a lot...
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So do 2 door JK Rubicons......... right Shawn?
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/tirecarrier4.jpg)
Hahaha it looks like a hippo! ;)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/KnoxSteve/hippo-yawn-crocodilebridge.jpg)
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Knox for the win! ;D
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hey stop talking about johnny like that.....he has feelings to :o :D
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I traded feelings for jeep parts a long time ago!
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35s on it for now. Just for fitment. Not bad.
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/C38D45C3-90F7-4A8A-9FC1-C843F31442A4-4154-00000492D243AE3B.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/20783133-057C-410D-B224-693C87A0B9CF-4154-00000492CACED157.jpg)
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Lookin good. Might need to pop the front axle out a bit to put em on wider rims. Fun times!
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Is that blue spray painted line on the rear right where you're gonna cut with the sawzall to make it all fit?
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Todd USO funny!!!!!! You love ZJs long time! Admit it!
More pics.
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/58F7D350-C2A9-404A-9AA6-A581654F9674-4154-0000049F2AD6DD3E.jpg)
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holey red neck rti ramp! goes great with the sleazy Z!
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Looks sick, and it would look even better if it was stretched ;)
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gonna 'stetch' it to 109" its at 108 right. why? becuase at full stuff or semi full stuff i know if i crank the wheel there could be issues.
any more and i might as well have started with a regular cab shortbox truck ;)
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nice build johnny :) not a yj which is sad, because Halloweeen is coming and that made a great costume on you ;)
However it looks like you need to push the real axle out more as it seems like its too close to the front in those pictures... if your lookin to stretch it that is.
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decided to stay with 33s for now. maybe in the future when i get gears and lockers. for now think i'm gonna stay on the 33s.
couple other things coming down the line........ gonna do an efan conversion, some hood louvres and possibly some long arms??? ???
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if u do long arms let me know mine might be done by then.... e fans are easy if u can find a 5.9... if not i got my rad out and am planning on building my own setup in the near future....
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Better rethink that one. Efans for a 5.9 are super hard to come by and if you do find one they are well over $500. I just converted a 5.9 to a mechanical fan using fan and shroud from a 5.2 for that reason.
Taurus fan is WAY cheaper and just as easy.
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I though of a niner fan but to costly. Unless your niner fans for sale clay ;).
I have a couple Taurus fans in the garage :). Have a habit of bringing them home when I goto pnp!
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I could sell you the fubard one I just pulled out...... 1/2price!
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The Taurus fan I mounted into my '93 was pretty easy. I removed the original 5.2 shroud and then mounted the Taurus fan inside it with self drilling screws. Took some trimming of the the shroud and fan but was pretty simple.
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hey Clay could you fire me a PM with the details on how you wired up the taurus fan? or post em? i'm trying to find an all in 1 controller type thing like this --> http://www.dccontrol.com/relay_controllers.htm
but i don't know if that includes a temperature sensor unit, or what else i'd need. i think i also need a 70A fuse to right?
at least i admit i suck with electrical :(
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I only used the high speed setting on my fan. Power to it is fed a continous duty solenoid, like what you see inside a Warn winch solenoid pack. The solenoid is controlled by a cheap Flex-a-lite controller with a probe shoved into the rad fins.
Lately the controller has not been working right so I may replace with a temp probe in one of the rad hoses. I would lose my adjust ability though. The Flex-a-lite controller has an adjustemnt screw on it to adjust kick in/out up and down. A probe would just be at set temp.
I also have a 3 way switch on the console for the fan. Off/Force on/Auto
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see my thoughts where to build a shourd basically outta a piece of 16 guage steel that wold slide into lower clips for shroud and bolt onto upper bolt locations on rad ..... than one maybe two e fans on it...
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here i will go snap a picture of my rad and what i am thinkin....
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the first two pictures show yourmounting locations for said shroud and the last on gives u a idea of what i was thinking... ddint have a big enough piece to cover the whole rad... but in theory it should all be cutable on the plasma including the holes for fan or fans.....
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Jasona82/Evolution/shop%20pics/96%20ZJ/2012-11-05101614.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Jasona82/Evolution/shop%20pics/96%20ZJ/2012-11-05101621.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Jasona82/Evolution/shop%20pics/96%20ZJ/2012-11-05101559.jpg)
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Did you not find the unit I told you about from JB Electronics on 32nd? I wired mine all up and it works perfect with the taurus fan, 3 way switch and all!
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Link didn't work Kyle. Fire it to me again I will take a look.
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Here you go dude;
Wiring harness and thermostat controller (MFA 100)
http://www.maradynehp.com/products/accessories/wire-harnesses.php
JB Power Centre Website (Calgary Location at the bottom)
http://www.maradynehp.com/products/accessories/wire-harnesses.php
I also picked up a laundry list of extras from PA, 3 way switch, wiring, adhesive foam strips (place between fan and rad), fuses, watertight plastic container to house relay harness. If you'd like I can come by one night and show you the set up. If I can do it (with help from Buki) you can too! :P
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For the fuse holder I pulled a bunch of the wiring from the car with the fan, including the fuse holder. I believe it was a 60 or 70amp fuse.
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update;
still need to do my efan and stuff. that got on the back burner. but, new toys in;
IRO long arms woop!
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/42300CED-67FD-47F7-81BF-11BCA551ADB8-20925-000015BB5DC2A714.jpg)
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/56E6DF88-D8EB-45E1-A019-E8CEF322F900-20925-000015BB53EA67F2.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/8A5CACDD-1869-4F0B-B51C-33B81E438E2A-20925-000015BB5071A4C7.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/F3509E90-C0FD-4AE7-BC15-FE300E47463B-20925-000015BB4DBADF75.jpg)
the bad; driveshaft was seized solid when we went to install it friday night; and found a blown hub bearing. stupid jeeps.
and for pewps and giggles, the truck; fresh from BrokenAxle with a 2" lift and 33" toyo open country ATs...... yes i'm running toyos lol
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/8D9E65EA-EC38-4660-9C39-0C47F6C49282-20925-000015BB0E2D5AED.jpg)
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22" Toyos
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22" Toyos
???
fixed. 33's lol.
big thanks to Fraser and Dingman for helping me install it all friday night too
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well, quick update because i'm bored as hell at work. i gues people don't like to discuss their investment portfolios when its almost Christmas break ;)
put my new driveshaft in, it bolted up nice, kind of rerouted the exhaust a bit to clear the IRO cross member, hammered/cut some more fender on teh passenger side (maybe my axles bent; lol donno)
and hooked everything back up. rides and drives nice again.
now she's all ready for the zombpocalypse ;)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/DF5736A0-F866-4042-87AB-92970B774949-8509-0000093183A79376.jpg)
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not pictured above:
Costco size tub of Vaseline. :P
and yes i am a little bitter that your jeep runs and mine does not! >:(
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hmmm...wierd. i always thought Toyo offered a man version in that size...
;D
Those long arms look beefy!
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so update.
last time out wheeling i broke some stuff. no surprise there.
so new goodies came in. new 33" tire, and IRO double sheer track bar and currie lync steering, and some 5.5" coils. steering was a little 'tweaked' lol
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/1164146F-071C-467E-9BBA-D06456C0F6BE-12880-0000081A4EACC8A0_zps6c873138.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/616EA25E-7D6A-43FC-9899-BC3A69135A24-12880-0000081A431F2546_zps243cea44.jpg)
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also burnt a driveshaft up, it was vibing pretty bad. didn't get that installed yet though :(
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Steering got tweaked ? People say the V8 ZJ steering is supposed to be an upgrade for TJ's and XJ's? < snicker>
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I'm just that good Noel. I can break anything
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Or the stock TJ is just REALLY crappy.......
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did some more fun stuff. blew out the IRO joints on my arms. decided that replacing them with the same would just lead to similar failure. plus they werne't adjustable, so i can't pop the axle out further to run 35s in the future ;)
so decided to go with johnny joints instead................ stan had em to me overnight, which is good, cause i'm impatient ;) got some jjs and weld in bungs; now, the control arms aren't the righ ID for these, but having friend swith lathes is great!
gotta say i'm happy with how it turned out. control arm surgery is fun Johnny Joints for the win!
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/344CBD9C-28C2-45F3-BB2B-6973D54408FF-20437-00000C9C12B60368_zps0c1c86bb.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/A20ECF11-3EB1-4260-A333-9A56EC5D3422-20437-00000C9C0591E0AB_zps51031d48.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/AF23BA4C-3CEF-4FFC-AFD7-A74CA054A2DE-20437-00000C9C1C922D10_zps15763976.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/B2EA0BB5-D2B5-4E22-AF2E-0E399C15BBFC-20437-00000C9BF9CCF3B3_zps5cc62546.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/CFAEC7CD-7F85-466A-A7A4-5EAC902D8740-20437-00000C9BEF000CCD_zpsc0dfaf0f.jpg)
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/042DCD30-8A3C-4B8E-A479-3A0A04105118-20437-00000C9BBE5644D6_zps85157cb3.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/1F4DE503-ECBB-4CD6-B2C4-09213EE488C6-21903-00000D540C8D1700_zps3a0cdc81.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/E5DAFFCA-5247-4825-AE1B-D7C85B0E60DF-21903-00000D54394ABD7E_zps09439122.jpg)
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Gotta love upgrades!
I can't really see from the pics, but do you anticipate any issues with damaging those grease zerks on rocks/stumps/etc. based on where they are sitting?
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I am looking for button style zerks for mine johnny, when I find some I will get extra for you. They dont stick out near as far as a regular zerk so they might not get ripped out so easily. Well at least by mud, rocks are a different story. :P
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the wallet doesn't like all the upgrades though Todd :( lol.
but yes, i foresee said issue you bring up with the zerks. hopefully its a non issue. if i'm hitting something directly on that zerk i might have bigger issues to deal with ;)
and thanks Pook, get me a couple
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So a quick update. Lots of work done. Just swapped hubs up front today, and put a few new part in. Running tip top. Thanks to dingmanand Fraser!
New parts? Yep. Check out the pics. Viair OBa is hooked up. Works decent enough. Finding a pressure switch sucked: that adventure led me to KMS tools. Best and worst store ever!
Also installed my new cat back exhaust from IRO with their performance muffler. I will post a sound clip. It's pretty mean sounding. Probably cause I cut the cat out....... Lol
But best mod.... My "may long fish cops will be giving tickets out everywhere" mudflaps.... Even mole lady would let these slide Ron ;).
Total cost? 7.99 at Canadian tire. Yes. They are floor mats lmfao.
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/B214BAE0-F144-4C7E-A20D-70462D6C7090-17572-0000098ECE991010_zps1c07f54a.jpg)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/F7CBD80C-F8BF-43CC-B0DF-7BD8AB46D40D-17572-0000098EA699E43B_zps9cd4faa7.jpg)
Before pic for reference
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/tirecarrier.jpg)
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Bwah ha ha - Johnny you should rent out advertising space or show drive in movies on those bad boys
This post requires more cowbell
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Wow. Even more ghetto than most of what I see driving out of Hobbema on a daily basis. Bravo Johnny, Bravo.
They seem to fit the Jeep tho in a strange way... :D I like it.
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Wow. Even more ghetto than most of what I see driving out of Hobbema on a daily basis.
That made me laugh but you're spot on Simon.
Don't feel bad John as I too have the removable-floormat mudflaps .
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Hey John ... I think they're crooked ;D ;D
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Hey John ... I think they're crooked ;D ;D
thanks buddy. i was aiming for that ;)
right now they are held in by screw drivers. i'll replace said tools with cotter pins of some sort. only reason i did this was for those weekends when the 'mole lady' police force are out in force. hopefully they just laugh and let me go.
although i like the advertising idea. 'this space for rent' lol
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John, having those mudflaps will defeat our plan for this summer. You have already been selected as the CJA member that is going to take on for the team with the Mold Lady this year. You lack of consideration for others (shown by putting on the mud flaps so that you can't get pulled over by the mole lady) is NOT COOL.
Please re-think your actions - for the sake of us all. Especially the children.
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So did some more work. Added hood louvres to help with heat. It was fun cutting up my hood.
Bad pic I know
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/042F2622-04FC-4AF9-97BE-3D7B49C40E4B-3740-000002282D2EE2E7_zps21f12575.jpg)
Also have some goodies to install after I'm back from BC should be on for show and shine :). Christmas in July!
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might as well update this because i'm bored as crap at work and they won't let me drink here to pass the time.... lol.
so after a brief dunking in mclean mud, i think the jeeps ok again. 4 tranny flushes, oil change, bunch of cleaning etc. and its driving good again.
couple pics to come; snorkels in, efans in (although my fancy controller doesn;'t work so its always on/off, thats it) and front aussies in.
and.... thats it. i'm done with it.
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Sadly... Its still a ZJ...... ;D
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Sadly... Its still a ZJ...... ;D
its a kick arse ZJ that runs....... well........;)
so I added some stickers. don't think it'll give me 50HP but it can't hurt ;)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/D29845E3-A30E-42B7-910E-3303D656ADE9_zpswbmo2zf0.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/johnnyzj/media/D29845E3-A30E-42B7-910E-3303D656ADE9_zpswbmo2zf0.jpg.html)
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/B7744CF0-2E91-477A-BF26-4399AB0A6AD8_zpsahqkrq00.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/johnnyzj/media/B7744CF0-2E91-477A-BF26-4399AB0A6AD8_zpsahqkrq00.jpg.html)
yea....... bring on the end of the world. i'm game.
edit: I put em on the rear because if I put them on the fenders you know they would just get ripped off lol
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couple new write ups coming up;
going to do:
OBA
power steering cooler
ZJ half doors. I don't need no stinkin' Wrangler ;)
to be continued...............................
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so project ZJ has met its demise.
she's being gutted.
new project will ensue..............................
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You mean your kid pops out in a few months and you're building her a pink jeep;)
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/C839BEDC-B85B-4EA9-B547-A46AB0F7512E_zpsv8xv0maq.jpg) (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/johnnyzj/media/C839BEDC-B85B-4EA9-B547-A46AB0F7512E_zpsv8xv0maq.jpg.html)
salesguy it comes with front and rear lockers................... couldn't say no
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I have a pile of eyelashes for your daughters or your :) jeep. Girls dig the eyelashes.
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so project ZJ has met its demise.
she's being gutted.
new project will ensue..............................
Goin' topless again?
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so project ZJ has met its demise.
she's being gutted.
new project will ensue..............................
what u got for sale from her? i get my zj today for $300
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http://forum.calgaryjeep.com/index.php?topic=28616.0
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http://forum.calgaryjeep.com/index.php?topic=28616.0
Thanks immortal, i guess i should search before i ask next time.
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I've got a ton of stuff. some fay offroad parts, stock parts etc.
drop me a pm with your laundry list of stuff you need, i'll see what I have.
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You'll be back! Once Jeeps are in your blood, they remain forever. ;)
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You'll be back! Once Jeeps are in your blood, they remain forever. ;)
To be precise, Jeeps are on his Jackstands. He's already purchased a new tutu....er....YJ.
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Unless that YJ has a V8, he'll be back.
There's no replacement for displacement..... ;D
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Unless that YJ has a V8, he'll be back.
There's no replacement for displacement..... ;D
truer words have never been spoken lol.
V8s all the way!
the 4L will suffice in the new YJ for now..... :)
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For now......
Later when its not I have a '95 parts ZJ you can buy off me for the motor/tranny and wiring.
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With that heavy right foot and a 6 cyl its only a matter of time ... :o
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I've heard the D35 is a stout axle....................... it holds up good to pedal and lockers ;)