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Offline Bnine

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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2009, 09:06:53 PM »
Stop the madness. Pat, your front end is worn out, and Trxus are tough tire to balance. These guys talking about pixie dust and the other balancing gimmicks arent stopping to realize that they are a bandaid, no more effective then a new stabilizer.

The only thing the trxus does in regards to death wobble is exagerate sooner then a smoother running tire will.

regardless, your wobbles have SFA to do with your balance, unless the tire has blown a belt, gone out of round, or your rim is bent.

I've said this 100 times on this site, and fixed as many for nearly as many times. DEATH WOBBLE IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO TIRE BALANCE OR WHEEL ALIGNMENTS.

Pat, if you are experiencing early onset of death wobble, bring your jeep over and I will show you how to diagnose it.

I've done this for 50 some members on this board, and solved this issue at least two hundred times.

Not once have had them balance their tires, get an alignment, or fill their rims with pixie dust.

Sorry if this post is a bit aggressive. People getting mislead on steering issues via web wheeling is a a bit of a pet peeve of mine.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2009, 09:09:07 PM by Bnine »
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2009, 09:35:03 PM »
Bill he said he has a wobble at 80 but not 90 thats not DW is it ?
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2009, 07:22:21 AM »
http://www.fourwheelstampeders.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=3590

For your tire balancing information. I'd probably go the BB idea over the packaged ones. Even with the valve stems replaced with special stems I've still had a few issues when airing down.
If it's a death wobble situation. Get rid of it for good by selling the TJ and pick up a CJ. Only wobble you have then is from lose wheel bearings. ;)
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2009, 08:26:07 AM »
the airsoft re ballance every time you take off from being stoped, where i think the other stuff uses static electricity to stay stuck to the inside of the tire so they dont have to rebalance every time you take off.
i never realy reserched this and am just going off what im told. ;)
sorry to clarify i was onlt talking about balincing tires not geting rid of DW. BILL :P
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2009, 09:50:34 AM »
i'd just dump the trxus............ the ones on my ZJ shook worse than my iroks...................
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2009, 11:05:25 AM »
Well if I had a boatload of money *and* hadn't won a second set, I'd consider it. Oh and that they perform fantastically other than balance and weight issues.


tell ya what, when you have a boatload of money, i'll be the Skipper of that boat anytime!

i did the pixie dust thing....... didn't work worth a poop. went through unit bearings every 3 months............. so i bought a DD instead of continually fixin my trail rig/DD.  they were decent enough trail tires but felt like swampers on road....
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2009, 08:02:32 PM »
Sell the set of truxus that you won and get a decent set with the proceeds, when your present set is worn out.
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2009, 10:22:53 PM »
Well now that I've had pixie dust in all 4 tires (quite a bit too)... and had people check the front end ... and been offroad etc., I decided to figure out which <family site - deletions performed> tire despite all appearances of being fine has a problem.  Since a fellow in a truck the other day just about fell out of his truck staring at my right front wheel when the hop started happening, I started there. 

Added pixie dust to the spare (slow leak) and put it on the right-front.  WOW... the bounce/wobble is gone and it's WAY smoother than before... oh and I've been getting much better mileage even with the bad tire on, so I believe in pixie dust, but it won't fix a bum tire or suspension problems.  I figure hundreds of thousands of kilometers of testing with commercial trucks is a pretty good indicator.

If I remember, I'll post an update when I have more time on these tires with the pixie dust in.


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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2009, 10:38:31 PM »
I hate to say it but


No you don't.... you live to say that!!
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2009, 11:53:29 PM »
Sell the tires on kijiji. And with the amount that the intercos have jumped in the last year or so, you shouldn't get soaked on them. For a good go everywhere tire consider a MTZ. I was surprised at how well they work on ice.PM
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2009, 07:34:10 AM »
Bear in mind that you're not limited to running tires exactly the way that they came from the factory. So far I've been very happy with the results from siping my BFG Mud Terrains.
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2009, 11:28:14 AM »
Most tire places seem to view siping as some sort of strange voodoo. They don't really want to talk about it and certainly don't want to do it.

I found a place that would sipe my factory tires for me, even after I had driven on them. Their only request was that the tires were relatively clean and not too worn.

More to the point the manager of the place managed to convince me that he was confident in the work that his guys would do. His comment to was "If I screw up your tire, I'll buy you a new one."

I'll PM you the location and price.
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2009, 12:17:23 PM »
You should just post the location so we all know who does it and backs their work with a guarantee like that..
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2009, 01:00:25 PM »
They're not someone that has sponsored the club in the past, so I don't want to step on toes. If it's okay with the execs, I certainly have no issues posting the details - they did right by me.
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Re: The dreaded death wobble...
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2009, 04:55:18 PM »
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They're not someone that has sponsored the club in the past, so I don't want to step on toes. If it's okay with the execs, I certainly have no issues posting the details - they did right by me

Nothing wrong with sharing info on a company that does good work .    ;D   
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