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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Lugnut on December 07, 2008, 03:01:38 PM

Title: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Lugnut on December 07, 2008, 03:01:38 PM
Hey guys, wondering what you are running and what your opinions are of them. 

I have been doing some research and am thinking of going with some IPF lens and X51 bulbs.

What else is out there is comparable in price and vision?
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: calltrex on December 07, 2008, 03:05:03 PM
i like mine.  you have to ask vince what they are and where he got them though.

there like GM u can just change the bulb if u want..

Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Vinman on December 07, 2008, 03:13:01 PM
These are what I used and really like them:

http://www.roundeyes.com/

I big improvement I also did was add a relay which allows the low beam to stay on with the high beams but you have to disable the DRL's to do that.

Vince
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Gearhead on December 07, 2008, 03:47:22 PM
Wouldn't square lights be cooler ?
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Vinman on December 07, 2008, 04:01:47 PM
Wouldn't square lights be cooler ?


just for you...

www.squareeyes.com
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Lugnut on December 08, 2008, 04:47:40 PM
Did you have to get those round eyes out of the US of A, or is there a Canadian dealer? 

The IPFs are nice too, bit the local stores want about 2.5 x what the US prices are.  Ouch!
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Vinman on December 08, 2008, 05:00:57 PM
Did you have to get those round eyes out of the US of A, or is there a Canadian dealer? 

The IPFs are nice too, bit the local stores want about 2.5 x what the US prices are.  Ouch!

I got the very first set they shipped to Canada direct from Roundeyes.

Vince
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: HeadHunter on December 09, 2008, 07:43:29 AM
i picked up these "H4" sealed beams called silver stars or something @ can tire and they are great 5x more light than my stock ones and they where $20 a pop i think. white light too. On a night run xjwrencher asked what they where when I was following him cause they where so bright.

theres a good article in the new JP mag of some HID's. "Daylight at NIght". good tips on a certain brand.
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: TJ54 on December 09, 2008, 08:56:47 AM
I run the silverstars as well, They are way better than stock and is an inexpensive upgrade, can't remember the exact price but $50 for the pair sounds about right
I have read reviews about the roundeyes, they are supposed to be really good,
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: SwampSinger on December 09, 2008, 08:08:47 PM
I run the IPF H4s and X51 bulb... the low beams are a true 80W even if they say 190W on the box (I can read the rest of the stuff... I have to brush up with my chineese  ;)). They make things look clear & bright. You see well in the ditches...it's nice when you drive on country roads... You see the critters coming from far.

I would also get some head light protection grills... they are cheap compare to buying another H4.

good combo... 2 thumbs up for me!
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: sylvrinvader on December 09, 2008, 08:26:06 PM
I run the IPF H4s and X51 bulb... the low beams are a true 80W even if they say 190W on the box (I can read the rest of the stuff... I have to brush up with my chineese  ;)). They make things look clear & bright. You see well in the ditches...it's nice when you drive on country roads... You see the critters coming from far.

I would also get some head light protection grills... they are cheap compare to buying another H4.

good combo... 2 thumbs up for me!
where do you get this set up and for how much for a 03 tj
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Immortal on December 09, 2008, 08:28:14 PM
where do you get this set up and for how much for a 03 tj

For you.... ONE MILLLLLLLLION DOLLARS.... MUHAHAHAHA! ;D
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: sylvrinvader on December 09, 2008, 08:33:07 PM
 >:(

 ;D











Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Asia on December 10, 2008, 12:47:10 AM
On my YJ I swapped in a set of Bosch lights with H4 bulbs.  The lens have a sharp cutoff and the reflectors put forth alot more light than the stock setup.  A huge improvement in lighting up the night.  I think they were $100 for the set way back when, $120 now at most auto parts stores.  I had a set of Cibie lights in my old VW GTi and they were even better than the Bosch, but I haven't seen Cibies for quite awhile.
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Lugnut on December 10, 2008, 12:37:46 PM
You see well in the ditches

Thats got me convinced!   :P  Hope your not driving in'em Dom!

With the reduction in eye sight these days, I am going with the largest increase in headlights.  Lights on order.

Thanks for all the input guys!

Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Lugnut on January 20, 2009, 06:39:36 PM
Well I went with the IPFs H4 lights, Super Low Beam bulbs and the wiring kit upgrade as well. 

Lights are a huge improvement!  I have yet to get out on the highway to see how the high beams light up the night, but am very happy with the low beams on the darker side streets I have travelled.

The only complaint I have is with the wiring harness.  It is absolutely the easiest wiring harness I have ever installed and is of very high quality.  My issue is with the daytime running lights.  It seems this USA produced wiring harness is not compatible with our DRLs.  When the DRLs kick in you end up with relay chatter due to the reduced voltage from the DRLs.  This requires you to run your head lights ALL the time.  Not a big issue for the owner, but if someone borrows your vehicle, best let them know or their proprietory relays will be toast.  I have contacted ARB for a solution and they have none...other than disconnecting the DRLs, so I will do my own research further.

Other than that Great Lights.     
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: Vinman on January 20, 2009, 07:03:38 PM
It seems this USA produced wiring harness is not compatible with our DRLs.  When the DRLs kick in you end up with relay chatter due to the reduced voltage from the DRLs. 

I ran into the same problem when I did installed the relay to allow the low beams to stay on with the high beams.
I ended up just removing the DRL module and all worked well (no DRL's obviously)

If you do remove the DRL module, your hi-beam indicator will not work unless you add a jumper wire to the now unused DRL plug (easy to do)

The only other method of getting the low beams on with the high beams and keep the DRL's would be to tap into the harness before the DRL module to source the required power for the relay. It wouldn't be that dufficult to figure out if you have a wiring diagram.

I think the best improvement I did to the Jeep headlight wise was the ability to have both beams on at the same time, way better than stock.


Vince
Title: Re: TJ Headlight Upgrade
Post by: w squared on January 21, 2009, 07:37:49 PM
Yeah, I can vouch for Cibie and Bosch, ran them years ago in my '69 Belvedere Station Wagon 4 headlight system.  Man, you should have seen the road when I hit high beam.... you could land a jet by them.

There is one outfit in the US that deals Cibie, otherwise I haven't seen much of them anymore either, which is odd considering they used to be "the" headlight to get.
What they try to tell you now is that the reflector/lens combo is pretty much "standard" (yeah, right... prism and lens design is an art form) and the biggest difference is in the bulbs.

Hmm...  HID bulbs in those reflectors aimed properly and use dual "driving/fog" lights on the bumper for the "high beam" if and when it's "necessary".  ;D

I'm starting to dislike the stock headlights in my JK more and more. They look flashy and all, but they're pathetic compared to my GF's VW.

I think that I'm going to end up picking up a set of Cibies from that outfit you mentioned in the US, and upgrade my wiring harness as well. There's actually a place in the US that sells a heavier harness built specfically for the JK's. Those plus a good set of halogen bulbs and I should be styling. Not as flashy as HID, but half the price and 95% of the performance.