Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Mudpig97 on December 31, 2008, 09:26:07 PM
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OK so my kid just picked up a 2000 jeep tj. He wants to eventually go to 37" tires so what I'm askin is whats a good solid lift to use. We need something strong as I'm sure he'll try to catch some air as he says. So whats everyone using , pros and cons? And where to get it?
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i dont have a lift but from what i hear 99% of the guys are running Rubicon Express
and to fit 37's i figure 4.5 or 5.5 with 1 or 2 of body
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Im running skyjacker.. 4" of lift.. Or 5".. Yeah currently unkown haha.. I think its great.. Though i am not familliar with any other type of lift.. So dont listin to me :P
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im running a 2000 tj with a 4.5 Rubicon Express on 33's
that said, 6 inch with a SYE and a 1 inch body lift should run 37's but u need to do a axle upgrade and work on your steering, ie a drop pitman and a upgrade
also u will need to do a job on the rear drive shaft and USE DSI, ( personally will NEVER use PATS again) sorry to anyone who disagrees got treated like crap there
then going that high u will need to do some engine, transmission and tranfer case drop/angle adjustment .
im Totally new to this but talking to the VAST amount of expersinse here and my own reading this is what i think
anyone whos knows better please advise these fellows and me as well cause i love to learn
thanks and cheers
J
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im running a 2000 tj with a 4.5 Rubicon Express on 33's
that said, 6 inch with a SYE and a 1 inch body lift should run 37's but u need to do a axle upgrade and work on your steering, ie a drop pitman and a upgrade
also u will need to do a job on the rear drive shaft and USE DSI, ( personally will NEVER use PATS again) sorry to anyone who disagrees got treated like crap there
then going that high u will need to do some engine, transmission and tranfer case drop/angle adjustment .
im Totally new to this but talking to the VAST amount of expersinse here and my own reading this is what i think
anyone whos knows better please advise these fellows and me as well cause i love to learn
thanks and cheers
J
With your 4.5 rubicon express lift are you getting vibrations from the drive shaft or did you get a sye and new drive shaft?
Whats a DSI?
I am looking at the RE 4.5 lift so let me know :)
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RE's crap in my opinion
GO Clayton
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RE's crap in my opinion
GO Clayton
I havent heard alot about clayton other then they are more for extreme offroading equipment.
Where you get most of your Clayton produces? Order it straight from the USA?
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I run 37's with a 4.5" lift and 1.5" body lift. The suspension lift is custom built medium arm lift and uses some pretty beefy stuff. It wasn't cheap but it is tough. I would NOT want to run a 6" lift offroad as your Centre of Gravity would be pretty high and the jeep would be tippy. It's better to keep the lift small and flat fender or something.
My previous lift was an RE 4.5" short arm lift with 35" tires and after a couple years it needed new bushings and the joints froze up. Not that they are terrible lifts, they just might not be beefy enough to stand up to someone "catching air". Actually I don't know to many lifts that would stand up to that kind of abuse and it would certainly play hell on your shocks and steering components.
There are other things to consider when going with 37's. You'll need upgraded brakes... I run a vanco setup in the front stock disk in the rear. Upgraded axles and gears... I run 4.88's with an arb'd d44 rear with upgraded axle shafts and an arb locked hp d30 with a super kit in the front (and I still break front axles!). You'll need upgraded steering components and likely some sort of hydro assist if you want to be able to turn your wheels on the trail.
Going to 37's is not cheap especially if you want to wheel it hard. Most of the trails around here can be run pretty easily on 33's with lockers.
DSI = Drive Systems Inc (or something close to that)... they are a company in town that a lot of us go to for our drive shafts.
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OP said he wanted to go 37's so setting aside axle issues .He will need a 6" lift so he needs a long arm
Of the long arm kits available Clayton has the least amount of complaints it also uses Johnny Joints which are one of the best joints on the market the kit also has a you brake it we replace it warranty even trail damage is covered which no other company dose
RE hourglass bushing are crap and on the long arms there have been problems with the upper mounts cracking
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I havent heard alot about clayton other then they are more for extreme offroading equipment.
Where you get most of your Clayton produces? Order it straight from the USA?
Clayton is a bit more $$ but they make quality stuff... http://www.claytonoffroad.com/ ...
Northern Extreme use to be the Western Canadian rep... I'm not sure if they are still kicking around. I don't think they are.
I tried the local shops to get their product without success... Northridge 4X4 carries their product also... I have heard from many that they are a good outfit to deal with ... http://www.northridge4x4.com/
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Alright. Thanks for the info. We'll be looking into the clayton suspension. I'm still trying to talk him down to 35's but who knows.
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Kev, you built your own bumper. I'd suggest you build you're own bodylift, using tubing instead of the hockey puck type spacers. You can bolt it down as many spots as you like, and no strain on the body from the spacer type things. Plus, the rear end won't have that gap between the frame and body.
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so whats the problem with the RE kits >:(
been running around in mine for a year now and its fine as far as i can tell .
:o