Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Dawg1983 on March 15, 2009, 08:18:36 PM
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Hi there I have An 88 yj it has a 4.2l carb is standerd i was woundering the best way to get more power out of it and any other sugested mods i plan on a 4" lift and 33" tires i would like to know easy upgrades for axles, brakes, drive shaft ect thanks
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well i SUGGEST if you gonna lift it
1) get a SYE kit for the transfer case- easy too do really
2) take it to DSI in SE calgary for your new rear driveshaft
just a suggestion
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Torque is the key to wheeling. Everyone wants more power but last time I checked it was traction NOT HP that conquered the hill. Spend your hard earned ca$h on traction and let the HP junkies waste theirs on engine...unless you only do mud drags...
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How much power do you need?
I have a 2.5 with a 4" lift and 33's and I can keep up just fine.
+1 for DSI
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Hey thanks for the help i would like to join you guys on a trail ride some time i dont have the means right now she is still stock but hoping by spring brake next year
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Hey thanks for the help i would like to join you guys on a trail ride some time i dont have the means right now she is still stock but hoping by spring brake next year
I wheeled my Jeep in stock form for a couple years. Watch for open stocker runs and get out wheeling
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A well driven stocker will get stuck less frequently thana modified and foolishly driven Jeep.
There's lots to be said for the challenge of figuring out the right line to take with a stock Jeep through a challenging obstacle.
As long as you have front and rear tow points, a CB, and reasonable tires (not bald, and either AT's or MT''s), you've got what you need for wheeling.
I for one am more than willing to provide suggestions and a helping hand for someone that's starting out.
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Figuring out what you want for tire size would be step #1, which looks like you've decided on 33's. From there do lots of research on what you need to get there. There are lots of posts here or on jeepforum. It's always nice to ask your own questions, but keep in mind some people don't like answering common questions from the new guys(more so for jeepforum)
For me I went with 33's because they make the jeep look well rounded and funtional with out going extreme; there should also be less stress on the drivetrain and with stock rubi wheels I kept the tires tucked in, no need for new flairs and not so hard on ball joints.
I had done some engine mods when I had 31's and to be honest made it more responsive than a rubicon in stock form, mind you it was expensive for what I ended up with, but I'm still glad I did it. With 33's and 3.73 gears I can get by on the highway in 5th just fine; if it's windy, and it has to be really windy, 4th isn't reving too high and when there is no wind 5th cruises well, can even pull most hills in 5th. A slower 1st would be nice on the trail but than again I could use 4lo, which I don't often.
Decide what you want for gearing and lockers dependant on where you drive and how you want it to handle. I've been contemplating truetracs because I've settled on 33's and want it to handle well on road without the quirks of selectable lockers or a detroit (my wife drives it sometimes in the winter).
Figure out what you want for a lift. I went big the first go with the RE 4.5" SF kit. The kit whent in easy but I had fluke trouble with my driveshaft being within spec and causing pretty good vibes. It was a pain but I eventiually figured it out and found a shop that could fix it. In hind site a smaller suspension lift and body lift would have worked with less stress but I didn't want a body lift. The RE kit also rides nice.....
Decide if you can live with stock gearing with bigger tires or would rather have new gearing with stock tires if you need to build in stages.
I agree with BlackYJ, get what you need to go on the open trail runs (tow points, CB and such) to get a feel with how you want to wheel it which might change what kind of rig you want to end up with, which is where I am with gearing and some form of traction aid.
I think the best piece of advice would be if you use this as a daily driver stick with a tire that will work well with our winters. I had a really good set of AT's on mine and it was awesome in the winter. I changed to a set of 33" mud tires and things got a little dicy when it was cold and the ice was extra hard. For some reason -5 ice didn't seem as slippery as -20 ice.
Take your time, decide what you want and which order you want it in and go from there; unless you have one of those magic money trees and can do it all at once :)
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Well stated. Even stock jeeps are very capable machines. Remember they wrote the book on 4x4'n. Go out with others, let them tackle the nasties first and WATCH. You'll learn what line works with what size rig. Big trucks have to right up the middle while smaller rigs get a couple of choices of lines. See where the tires slide into holes and get em stuck. Learn from others mistakes. But get out and have fun.
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i second the " figure out what u want first"
took my stocker out a couple of times ( not with the club stupid me) but i found my home out there on the trails and now am building what i want.
soon as i can work again( stupid knee surgery ) and get a set of geared axles under the beast im comming jeep association BLA HA HA HA ( please accespt me :-[)
but now with that rant outta the way, when u lift as i found out u will want to re-gear to match the bigger tires as well . Now you need to find out your own gearing, but with 33's a set of 4.10 or 4.56 in the gears should be sweet.
and i agree with the boys engine upgrades are fine but spend your money in the rest of your jeep first
another 2 cents
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Thanks alot guys i would love to go out my tires i have now are not good at all i have some construction around were i live but they dont clear very well at all but if i could meet up with some of you and go out and see and learn thanks for all the input I live south of Calgary
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Watch in the "Open trail runs" forum. There are folks going out all the time. What do you have on there for tires right now? AT's? Or do you have street tires?
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some no name ats but they dont clear mud at all
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my A/Ts like to load up too (especially the goopy stuff). but, sometimes you can use that to your advantage. just come out on a run.
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Yup. AT's will work just fine during the winter months, and as long as you drive according to your rig's abilities, nobody's going to get wrapped around the axle about pulling you through a few things. As others have said, watch what others do, take the easy lines, and ENJOY!
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Sorry My tires are street tires and i dont have a CB and only the tow hooks in the front and the rear only has a hitch so i have some work to do i guess i will have to wait :(
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Cb is $80 at Road King.... rear hitch/clevis is about $40 at Modern Motors... tires are.... pricey :)
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There are a lot of folks on this board that sell their used AT's and MT's. Save some pennies, and watch for a good deal. You don't have to drop $2000 on brand new Toyos and shiny alloy wheels in order to have fun.
Small tires (like the ones that will fit on your XJ right now) tend to be less expensive.
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How much are you looking to spend on a lift? RE and BDS make some decent lifts, but don't cheap on the shocks. Crappy shocks can make excellent springs ride rough.
Honestly, there are a lot of tires in McLean that stock ATs can handle as there is very little mud, more rock and hills. Also your rear hitch will work fine for a tow point
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Small tires (like the ones that will fit on your XJ right now) tend to be less expensive.
he has an 88 YJ
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he has an 88 YJ
Indeed he does. Now why did I think that he had an XJ? :o
Either way...the original statement holds true. You don't need swampers (or MT's) to have a good time.
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Hey took the jeep out last night it did ok it was thick deep mud but held up well does anyone know if it is typical for stock yjs to go sideways when going through mud holes i went sideways three times and i was only in third at my fastest run
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welcome to the wonderful world of the short wheelbase.
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Hey took the jeep out last night it did ok it was thick deep mud but held up well does anyone know if it is typical for stock yjs to go sideways when going through mud holes i went sideways three times and i was only in third at my fastest run
Danger :D Mine goes squirrly if I hit puddles and such too fast, just take it easy through the goop, some speed but not too much.
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wait until there is a little snow and ice on the roads
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
around and around and around u go if u use the skinny pedel too much