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Title: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: bobtheknob on July 14, 2009, 03:18:12 PM
hey i was just wondering what the diffrence between the BFG and goodyear tires is from what i have read they are virtually the same other than the company?
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: w squared on July 14, 2009, 03:34:10 PM
I'm not sure which tires you're asking about. With the BFG's, are you asking about the MT's or the AT's?
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: WhiteOut on July 14, 2009, 03:36:05 PM
The BFG M/T is so far away from the Wrangler AT/S they are not even in the same class of tire.  The BFG is a heavy lugged mud terrain that is pretty good at self cleaning, the KM has been discontinued but the KM2 is supposed to be better with more lateral flex and the same mud clearing qualities.  The Wrangler is more of a street/light dirt trail tire that will not do well at all in mud.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: bobtheknob on July 14, 2009, 03:38:33 PM
thank you vwery much i jsut read up a litle more and looked at some more pictures thanks alot
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: RckyMtnTJ on July 14, 2009, 03:59:43 PM
I went from the Stock Goodyear AT's to BFG AT KO's.  The BFG kicked the crap outta the Goodyear in everyway.  They were quieter, better in snow and ice, and for an AT, really good offroad.... for an AT>  My only complaint is the bead protector which is more of a mud, stick, and debris collector.  Now I have a set of BFG MT KM2's  I haven't had them offroad yet, but they too are super quiet onroad.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: hps4evr on July 14, 2009, 08:18:46 PM
first, goodyear is its own company. bfg is owned by michilen. the goodyear at/s doesnt really exist anymore, as it was replaced by the Silent Armor about 5 years ago. there are still some oem AT/S kickin around. either way the silent armor tires from goodyear are pretty good. they do lend themselves more to the street/gravel/sand, not really a deep mud sort of tire. in my opinion the silent armor is the best tire for your everyday daily driver that sees every season and will travel on all types of roads. perfect for a tow rig too.
from what ive seen with the bfg at's is the hold up very well offroad. the do need to be rotated often. dont expect them to be amazing deep mud tires. but imsure they will do their best to get you out and away from the pavement.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: bobtheknob on July 15, 2009, 12:44:41 AM
awesome thanks for all the advice im goin to look at some tommorow well i guess today and probably take them the bfgs that is
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: sn4cktime on July 15, 2009, 04:46:04 AM
Love my KM2's.  Pretty decent offroad, nice and polite on road.  Don't sound like a pack of chainsaws on the road.  Even when they were under-inflated the other day they kept pretty quiet.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: Aspirated on July 15, 2009, 07:30:08 AM
I suspect the Goodyear you were referring to would be the MT/R, the OEM trire on Rubicons. Being in the industry i have heard mixed results, people that do not off road tended to keep the MT/R and the guys that were intending to go offroad tended to swap them out for something different, i have not personally owned a set of the Goodyears but i have owned 3 sets of BFGoodrich's MT's and just bought a set of their new Design MT KM2's. As for the Allterrain T/A. Great tire, never had issues with it and one of the only A/T tires that is actually a square shouldered All Terrain tire.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: BlackYJ on July 15, 2009, 07:45:44 AM
I suspect the Goodyear you were referring to would be the MT/R, the OEM trire on Rubicons. Being in the industry i have heard mixed results, people that do not off road tended to keep the MT/R and the guys that were intending to go offroad tended to swap them out for something different, i have not personally owned a set of the Goodyears but i have owned 3 sets of BFGoodrich's MT's and just bought a set of their new Design MT KM2's. As for the Allterrain T/A. Great tire, never had issues with it and one of the only A/T tires that is actually a square shouldered All Terrain tire.

The original MT/R was a GREAT All-terrain tire.  It was okay in the mud but excelled in the dirt and rocks.  I siped my MTRs and in the winter they were amazing
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: Aspirated on July 15, 2009, 08:20:54 AM
The MT/R is a mud tire though...

Im interested to know how long it lasted siped.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: WagoneerXJ on July 15, 2009, 08:25:59 AM
The MT/R is a mud tire though...

Im interested to know how long it lasted siped.

It's not a mud tire ;)
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: JackstandJohnny on July 15, 2009, 08:30:30 AM
The MT/R is a mud tire though...

not from what i've seen they aren't ;)  as scott said, fantastic in many other situations, not so much in sticky mud. they gum up easily.  LOTs of wheelspin to clean

i've run BFGs on just about teverything i've owned and probalby will on my dodge when the time comes to break the bank for tires again.  i've always loved them. i'd run MT/Rs on the dodge if they weren't so damn expensive tho......
personally i think both tires are a good choice....
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: BlackYJ on July 15, 2009, 08:40:18 AM
The MT/R is a mud tire though...

Im interested to know how long it lasted siped.

They lasted extremely well.  There was a little chunking because of where some of the siping was but when I sold them I had about 30,000 kms on them with about 75% left
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: hps4evr on July 15, 2009, 10:11:12 PM
ive put about 100,000kms on my 33" mt/r's, they still have about 11/32nd. they've been a great tire for me. they did work awesome when i used to rockcrawl. but i will admit they arent a great deep mud tire. im curious how the new mt/r kevlar will be. all the write-ups have been very positive.
as for the mt/r's that came on the rubi's. i think it wasnt the right version. that 245/75r16 that they used was also a 10 ply tire. kinda meant for a 8000 pound truck that tows something. not so much for a 4000 pound jeep.
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: thumper on July 15, 2009, 10:19:07 PM
     I siped the original MTR's off my '03 Rubi, put them on my Dodge 3500 van, and got 80,000 km's out of them. Best 1 ton tire I ever owned after the sipe mod
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: bobtheknob on July 16, 2009, 03:49:50 AM
how will siping my tires help?
Title: Re: BFG mt at/s vs. Goodyear wrangler at/s
Post by: BlackYJ on July 16, 2009, 07:14:49 AM
The BFG AT already have siping but you could sipe the MTs.  Most MTs have very little or no siping at all.  Siping great improves wet weather and ice traction and helps to improve tread life.