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4x4 Related Groups => General Talk => Topic started by: Mudhawg on October 05, 2009, 07:19:26 AM

Title: Tire Repair
Post by: Mudhawg on October 05, 2009, 07:19:26 AM
so the set of 35's i got for my jeep got slashed and was wondering how i could go about repairing them seeing as they are brand new i would like to run them... Tubes? Vulcanized?
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: FiEND on October 05, 2009, 07:30:49 AM
the ones on your jeep now?  suck if it is.  how bad are the cuts?

here's the link i promised you:  http://dailydriventj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=811
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Mudhawg on October 05, 2009, 07:35:32 AM
Nah i bought a set of 35" MTZ's new from a buddy and they got slashed about 1-1.5" cuts
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: JackstandJohnny on October 05, 2009, 08:45:23 AM
side wall cuts can't be repaired Doug......... not legally at least (to my knowledge)

at least when my buddy sean had one gouged no tire shop would touch it. something about the tires being unable to bulge correctly or soemthing........
sure someone else will chime in.
maybe run an inner tube in teh tires? again, don't know how legal it is........
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: w squared on October 05, 2009, 08:49:41 AM
Legal or not, everything that I've read/seen/heard has convinced me to the point that if there's real sidewall damage, I'd never use them on the road.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Vinman on October 05, 2009, 08:55:34 AM
All 4 tires slashed? If so, time to call the insurance company.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Joel on October 05, 2009, 09:28:01 AM
It's possible to have a side wall repaired depending on how large of a hole and if the cost of shipping to have it repaired is worth it.

I've had two of my Krawlers repaired When I put a 1-2" gouge/slash on the middle of the side wall.  They shipped it back to the BFG factory to cut around the hole, then poured new rubber to refill it.    When I got the tires back, I could barely tell where they refilled it.  The cost of shipping was $65 + 25 to fix.

The third tire that I slashed, the hole was closer to the lip, and they refused to refill it and didn't charge me for shipping.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: tubby on October 05, 2009, 02:20:39 PM
That sucks Doug. I have a next to new 35" tire that is now a tire swing in my backyard. Gashed sidewall. I wouldn't trust that thing for on-road use if I were you. You're safety and the safety of others is not worth it. Plug the crap out of it, and throw a tube in it. Use it as a trail spare. It's not worth it.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Aspirated on October 05, 2009, 02:42:58 PM
When it comes to sidewall holes/slashes it matters if its sideways (across the cords) or up and down (with the cords). If 1-2 cords are cut on a 6ply (LT Rated) tire usually you are fine to have a hot patch done, and a reinforced sidewall boot vulcanized to the inner sidewall. If its lengthwise and 4-6 cords are cut then you are pretty much done unless you want to run tubes. I think the Tire retreading places have the hot patch available and i think Big-O tires by Chinook on centre has one.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Mudhawg on October 05, 2009, 05:44:15 PM
i wouldnt be so mad if it wasnt all 4 tires that got hit  :'(
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: JackstandJohnny on October 05, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
were they on your jeep when it happened doug?  just in the street?
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: tubby on October 06, 2009, 12:17:43 AM
All 4 tires! That REALLY sucks guy. You've had some pretty bad luck with that Jeep this year. Sorry to hear that. It may be a good time to look into the insurance company on this one.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Mudhawg on October 06, 2009, 08:16:25 AM
they wont cover it already called them
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: JackstandJohnny on October 06, 2009, 08:30:01 AM
was it on the street doug? in front of the house? to you have fire/theft/vandalism on the vehicle?  take pics of the damage of the tires/jeep where it sits.  do you have a receipt?  present your claim with the above info, along with a copy of your insurance policy.
details count buddy.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Sean778 on October 06, 2009, 09:56:41 AM
Johnny C is correct, we couldn't find any shop in Edmontown that would touch my stab victim of a Mud Terrain.  Maybe you'll have better luck in CowTown, although I'm betting all the tire shops there will tell you the same thing they told me.  I'd just love to catch a tire slasher in the act, just once, so I could carefully explain my feelings on the subject using language they'd understand.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Sean778 on October 06, 2009, 12:46:21 PM
So posting from my phone will apparently take a while to show up, as my intention was for the last one I sent to go right after John's first post. Either that, or I'm a supremely slow typist, both are equally likely. 
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: frenchy on October 06, 2009, 02:17:18 PM
Greggs will sell you self-vulcanizing tire repair cords, vulcanizing cement, big 4 ply patches, etc...
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: esi on October 06, 2009, 07:20:09 PM
If you're going to try to patch the tires yourself or have them patched, I would only run them on the back only. If you had cords cut the tire could be unstable. You only have two or possible three (D,E range or competition tire), a 1 inch slash should have cut all three. Patches aren't meant to flex like a sidewall does. And you're going to need a tire bur, a die grinder, a scraper, and pre cleaner, Not just a patch and cement.  Recap shops reject casings that have cord damage to the outside if the tire, and won't touch any casing with sidwall damage. There's a reason they don't. If you're looking for 17" rims, how were they bolted to your XJ when they were slashed and have fitment issues? Did you buy slashed tires?
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: BBD on October 06, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
side walls cannot be repaired (unless its done by manufacturer) once the  side wall is compromised the risk of catastrophic blow out goes way up. I've seen this way to many times when a customer brings in a string of rubber on a rim for a new tire, saying the last place they had a tire repaired said it was ok to repair side wall. Its not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Mudhawg on October 07, 2009, 01:40:33 AM
they were on a buddys rims and had them on the jeep testing to see if they would fit i planned to take em for a drive the morning after i put them on and when i came out i found flat tires
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: w squared on October 07, 2009, 07:12:47 AM
Sounds a whole lot like a job for your insurance company. You'll have to pay your deductible, but 35's aren't cheap - especially the R17's!
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: calltrex on October 29, 2009, 12:05:14 AM
theres a factory in kamloops that everyone send the tires to get the sidewalls fixed

kal tire sends there i think
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: JackstandJohnny on October 29, 2009, 08:55:01 AM
i already told him there was a place that would fix tires like that................... but he junked them right after it happened.......
Title: Re: Tire Repair
Post by: Immortal on October 31, 2009, 08:30:50 PM
Junked the 35s? Too bad.... should have fixed them.