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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Tagg on December 06, 2009, 06:09:35 PM

Title: Oil Filter size
Post by: Tagg on December 06, 2009, 06:09:35 PM
Just replaced the mopar oil filter with a fram and the cannister is about 2/3rds the size.
Is the fram a poorer quality? What is the difference?
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: dac on December 06, 2009, 06:15:14 PM
I don't really think it matters.  I know back "on the farm" we always kept the bigger ones in stock, they fit the old dodge trucks and the mustang I had, same on the jeep too from what I remember.

Depending on which fram you get it is kind of poor quality.  I think the duraguards are the better out of the bunch (the one with the black grippy stuff at the bottom).  I've been using napa gold though.
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: Tagg on December 06, 2009, 06:52:30 PM
I chose the 6X which seemed to be better.  Maybe next time I should try NAPA to get a better quality.
The fram have that black grippy surface on the end now too.
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: X-Treme on December 06, 2009, 07:22:25 PM
I own my own auto repair shop, and just so you all know, Fram is S#%T. Use NAPA gold (made for Napa by WIX)
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: cLAY on December 06, 2009, 08:37:42 PM
Ahh here it is, all you wanted to know about oil filters and the different brands. The condensed version is Fram is crap, whatever style of Fram you get, its crap.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: esi on December 06, 2009, 10:01:50 PM
x2 on the fram is crap.

Fleetguard are good. Anything thats not fram will do.
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: Vinman on December 06, 2009, 10:05:59 PM

Wix all the way
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: Tagg on December 07, 2009, 10:45:55 AM
Dumb question but where do you buy Wix or Donaldson.? Order them?  Also, Trivial question for tinkerer.  Where was the photo you show taken?
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: FiEND on December 07, 2009, 10:47:08 AM
i get wix at auto value
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: Tagg on December 07, 2009, 03:23:16 PM
Ahh here it is, all you wanted to know about oil filters and the different brands. The condensed version is Fram is crap, whatever style of Fram you get, its crap.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/index.html
Interesting reading. At least I put in the least criticized fram filter. Next time though I'll try a wix though.  Oddly enough, I called National 4x4 and they said they had never heard of wix filters.
I appreciate the education.
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: superles on December 07, 2009, 04:10:50 PM
I have been using Wix for years without issue. Not a fram fan whats so ever.  Never opened the links posted, but I'm a heavy duty mechanic buy trade, and if the filter is light do to its lighter mounting flange and lower in price, move on to another brand.  So look at the construction/weight and check reviews. Please also note that oem filters and parts are getting very competitive at the dealer, so don't be afraid to get a price there.
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: Tagg on December 08, 2009, 06:15:23 AM
Yes that's the word....avatar. Couldn't think of the word. Quite a flood for Calgary!! Made me think of a similar looking underpass in Montreal that was prone to flooding.
Anyway on my way home I went by Auto value and picked up a wix filter. Also got a wix air filter $33. (replaceable).   They also had a K&N reusable filter but I wasn't convinced that I could get it clean properly and it was double the price($77). Are these easy to clean.  Anyone done it?
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: parabs on December 09, 2009, 09:30:12 PM
I have a quaker state that i think is made by purolator.  It is fine, I get it at crappy tire.  I blow my can tire cash on them, so it is essentially free.  If you are buying quaker filters, the green ones are made by fram, the white ones are made my purolator, supposedly.
Title: Re: Oil Filter size
Post by: homeguy on December 11, 2009, 11:11:01 AM
I use Amsoil oil and filter.. have had no problems at all