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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Pookapotamus on January 19, 2010, 11:19:39 AM

Title: antilock or not
Post by: Pookapotamus on January 19, 2010, 11:19:39 AM
so as some of you might know i am swaping everything that is good from my 92 limited xj onto my 95 sport. there are many reasons i am doing this but one thing i am uncertain about is the antilock system. so i thought i would post and see what everyone thinks about antilock and wheeling? i know that this would be a hugh undertaking and am not worried about the time it would take me or the actual install, this is my dd and it is our main camping, touring and anything fun vehicle. the 95 has an air bag but i would kinda like the antilock system on it for safety. and yes i also realize the antilock system is not the best out there.

so really is there any advantage when i wheel to have the antilock?
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: XJHERO on January 19, 2010, 11:54:55 AM
so as some of you might know i am swaping everything that is good from my 92 limited xj onto my 95 sport. there are many reasons i am doing this but one thing i am uncertain about is the antilock system. so i thought i would post and see what everyone thinks about antilock and wheeling? i know that this would be a hugh undertaking and am not worried about the time it would take me or the actual install, this is my dd and it is our main camping, touring and anything fun vehicle. the 95 has an air bag but i would kinda like the antilock system on it for safety. and yes i also realize the antilock system is not the best out there.

so really is there any advantage when i wheel to have the antilock?


Don't be crazy
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Joel on January 19, 2010, 01:13:22 PM

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so really is there any advantage when i wheel to have the antilock?

Don't be crazy


You should really wait for an engineer to chim in before providing personal opinion.  ;)
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Pookapotamus on January 19, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Don't be crazy



You should really wait for an engineer to chim in before providing personal opinion.  ;)

so chime in then, acctually nathan's comment is good, i know this is me being my crazy arse self but thats just me and i value his opinion even if he is a crack head. ;)

like i said i dont mind going through all the tedious crap this would involve if the benifits are big enough. but then again pookapotomi are nuttier than squirrel crap!
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: 01sahara on January 19, 2010, 04:26:36 PM
pookapotomi are nuttier than squirrel crap!


LOL ;D
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Mudhawg on January 19, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
my 96 is suposed to have antilock but the fuse has been pulled IMO i hate antilock breaks
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: XJHERO on January 19, 2010, 05:59:02 PM
I pulled the fuse for mine years ago. I could never get my breaks to work like normal untill I pulled all the abs stuff out and changed the boster out for a normal one. The abs has a lot of wires and vac lines you would have to run a whole new harness under the hood.
Just pump the breaks like the old days if you start slideing. Maybe get sum breaking tips from Fraser......
Like I said your crazy
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: dac on January 19, 2010, 06:36:26 PM
Just pump the breaks like the old days if you start slideing. Maybe get sum breaking tips from Fraser......

ouch  :o
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: morerpmfred on January 19, 2010, 07:48:14 PM
Ive got abs on mine and for four wheeling they suck . On the pavement the are not the best abs system out there.  If you are thinking of swapping abs on to the 95 , do not do it , DON,T BE KRAZY . To many head aches when it malfunctions. When wheeling the abs light comes on half the time due to mud around the tone rings or frozen ice. Lots of other issues as well.
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: cLAY on January 19, 2010, 08:29:09 PM
Many 4x4s actually used to automatically cut out the ABS when 4wd was engaged. What does that tell you about ABS?

There are merrits to having it and not. Theory of ABS is that it keeps the wheels from locking which results in a loss of steering control, this is a good thing when sliding down a hill. However being able to lock the wheels and cause snow or dirt to pile up in front of the tire helps as well. Also in some cases where you just want to stop period having the brakes lock and skid will stop you in a shorter distance than having them pulse. Not always but sometimes...

I would NOT go thru the work of putting an ABS system on. As said above they are pretty sensitive to wheeling and often cause more problems than not.
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Evil-Jeep on January 20, 2010, 09:23:56 AM
I have driven both types of systems in several types of vehicles.... personally I do not like ABS;

In a Non-ABS vehicle I have the choice of locking up or pulsing (manually) in an ABS system you do not have the choice, If you are use to  your rig and how it brakes with out the ABS then I would not swap it in.
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Joel on January 20, 2010, 09:27:07 AM
Me thinks you've gots your Sarcasm detector turned off.  ;)

so chime in then, acctually nathan's comment is good, i know this is me being my crazy arse self but thats just me and i value his opinion even if he is a crack head. ;)
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: XJHERO on January 20, 2010, 10:14:17 AM
Dana use the Axels from the abs diffs they will have the bigger ujoint and just seam to be a bit beffer.
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Pookapotamus on January 20, 2010, 10:46:21 AM
Dana use the Axels from the abs diffs they will have the bigger ujoint and just seam to be a bit beffer.

seriously? thanks that makes sense.
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: XJHERO on January 20, 2010, 10:49:55 AM
Take em put them side by side you will see. At least the front anyway.
Title: Re: antilock or not
Post by: Justink on January 20, 2010, 06:36:17 PM
had a '92 cherokee with them and hated it.  They randomly tried to lock up while driving on dry pavement.  (fuse got pulled first day of driving)  Supposedly you can stop more effectively by pumping your brake then with ABS.