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Title: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 08, 2010, 12:38:20 PM
So exciting! :D

Here are some pictures from this morning.

I'm guessing the factory front tow hooks are good, and the picture of the loop on the back is the factory rear tow hook?

Not sure what your guys thoughts are on the tread on the tires, will I be good to offroad on them?  If not I have to find tires quick, or cancel out of the 101 course :(

I believe the order of pictures is driver side front, driver side rear, passenger side rear, passenger side front.  It's odd, both the driver's side tires seem to have a bit more meat on them than the passenger side...not sure if that signifies possible problems, or just weird tread wear.  I have been told that one of the front tires may have the tread separating so I plan on getting new tires asap.

I don't think anyone had taken the spare tire cover off recently (dirty)....and it turns out there's a wheel lock nut on it, and I didn't get a key to remove it.  I'm calling the previous owner shortly to see if he got one, and if not I guess I'll have to take it to a dealership and hopefully it's an OEM lock, and they have master keys to remove it.

I also have no idea how to turn on or test the fog lights, I remember seeing something about that on the Jeep Forum, so I'll test them later today.

I didn't take a picture, but I have a switch (just a stainless steel flip switch) coming out of the dash next to the axle lock switch and the windshield wiper switch.  In the manual it says there could be a passenger airbag disabling switch there, but it's normally controlled by the key.  Is there a chance someone replaced the old key-style switch with a toggle switch?  Or does it control something else?

She also came with a CB radio, but I have no idea how to work it yet...I might get a chance to tinker with it tonight.

(http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy332/DJKaotica/2003%20Jeep%20Rubicon/2010-06-08103723.jpg)

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Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Spinalguy on June 08, 2010, 01:08:57 PM
Those MTR's will last you about 200,000kms 8). i am sure they are fine for 101.
Towhooks are perfect.
You are all set.
Nice find.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Bnine on June 08, 2010, 01:44:15 PM
Congrats.

That wheel isnt missing lugnuts is? Hoefully thats just the angle of the pic?
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: mrjeep4 on June 08, 2010, 01:45:10 PM
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I didn't take a picture, but I have a switch (just a stainless steel flip switch) coming out of the dash next to the axle lock switch and the windshield wiper switch.

sounds like it could be a  safety bypass for the lockers ...      on a stock rubi  you can only engage the lockers when the t-case is in 4-low.  There's a hack you can do to bypass this so your lockers can work when the t-case in in 4-hi  or even 2-hi.  I did this on my rubicon  and wired in a switch  so i could  turn the "hack"  on and off.       To see if it's that   try turning your lockers on  in 4-hi  ( with the jeep not moving )  with the switch in different positions.

- If the lockers turn on in 4-hi  then it's been hacked  
- if you can't turn them on with the switch in the opposite position.. that means the switch controls the hack
- if you're lockers don't come on in 4-hi no matter what position the switch is ... then you jeep hasn't been hacked  and i don't know what the switch is  lol

Eric
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Spinalguy on June 08, 2010, 01:48:29 PM
Congrats.

That wheel isnt missing lugnuts is? Hoefully thats just the angle of the pic?

good eye, i think it is missing lugnuts. 8-)
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Pookapotamus on June 08, 2010, 01:54:27 PM
the wheel is the spare people!  ;)
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: mrjeep4 on June 08, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
pretty sure it's the spare too
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Slewfoot on June 08, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
the wheel is the spare people!  ;)

lol - pook ftw...I had to look closely to see the bumper behind the bottom of the tire.

Congrats on the find!!!
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 08, 2010, 02:13:05 PM
Thanks guys!

Anyone know if that's the OEM style of wheel lock nut, (i.e. can I find a master key that can remove it?), or am I going to have fun trying to take it off?
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Joel on June 08, 2010, 02:19:15 PM
Congrats.
That wheel isnt missing lugnuts is? Hoefully thats just the angle of the pic?

Must be Tuesday.  :D

Looks like OEM Style....come to the jeep meeting, i'm sure someone will have one with the same pattern.

btw, nice clean Jeep,  looking at yours, I miss my stock jeep.  :'(
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Slewfoot on June 08, 2010, 02:20:53 PM
Thanks guys!

Anyone know if that's the OEM style of wheel lock nut, (i.e. can I find a master key that can remove it?), or am I going to have fun trying to take it off?

It looks similiar to mine...but thats strictly from memory 'cause my jeep's not with me and I can't check it until tonight.  Did you check under the passenger seat with the jack?  Glove compartment?  Console? (just stabbing in the dark)
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: JackstandJohnny on June 08, 2010, 02:26:59 PM
Thanks guys!

Anyone know if that's the OEM style of wheel lock nut, (i.e. can I find a master key that can remove it?), or am I going to have fun trying to take it off?


grab two more lug nuts, and torque them down on either side of the wheel. real tight........... then get some big vice grips and put em on the lock nut.  if you torque the other ones down tight enough, and you get a good enough grip on the locknut it'll come right off.

at least thats the process i use for steeling a set of wheels i want with one of those on................
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Slewfoot on June 08, 2010, 02:28:31 PM

grab two more lug nuts, and torque them down on either side of the wheel. real tight........... then get some big vice grips and put em on the lock nut.  if you torque the other ones down tight enough, and you get a good enough grip on the locknut it'll come right off.

at least thats the process i use for steeling a set of wheels i want with one of those on................

 :o
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Slewfoot on June 08, 2010, 02:37:53 PM
I also have no idea how to turn on or test the fog lights, I remember seeing something about that on the Jeep Forum, so I'll test them later today.

Fog light switch - on an '06 Rubi, it's on the signal light arm with the headlight switch - with running lights on, pull out on the swotch - push in to turn them off.

I didn't take a picture, but I have a switch (just a stainless steel flip switch) coming out of the dash next to the axle lock switch and the windshield wiper switch.

Does this switch look factory?  If not, perhaps it controlled whatever was on the mounts below the front bumper.  Perhaps it's for a rear window de-foger? (I have three switches ther - rear wiper, rear defog andlockers.  I also have a blank spot that would control the Overdrive with an auto transmission.

Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 08, 2010, 03:06:25 PM
Great idea to check the jack stuff, Slewfoot, there's a good chance it's in there!  I checked the glove box and center console, he totally cleaned everything out, so definitely not in there (just the manual in the glove box).

Fog light switch - on an '06 Rubi, it's on the signal light arm with the headlight switch - with running lights on, pull out on the swotch - push in to turn them off.

Sweet, I will try this, thanks!

Does this switch look factory?  If not, perhaps it controlled whatever was on the mounts below the front bumper.  Perhaps it's for a rear window de-foger? (I have three switches ther - rear wiper, rear defog andlockers.  I also have a blank spot that would control the Overdrive with an auto transmission.

Definitely not factory, I'll snap a shot of it.  I have the rear window defogger, wiper, and locker switches as well.

The mounts below the front bumper were apparently for a tow bar, which unfortunately didn't come with the Jeep :/
(not that I have a reason to tow it, but nice to have the accessory for the future, or if I end up selling it)
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: fug on June 08, 2010, 03:23:10 PM

grab two more lug nuts, and torque them down on either side of the wheel. real tight........... then get some big vice grips and put em on the lock nut.  if you torque the other ones down tight enough, and you get a good enough grip on the locknut it'll come right off.

at least thats the process i use for steeling a set of wheels i want with one of those on................

Johnny you always make things tougher than they need to be.  Grab a 12 point socket that is just slightly smaller than the locknut... pound that sucker on there and voila... instant key.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: SwampSinger on June 08, 2010, 04:07:19 PM
Johnny you always make things tougher than they need to be.  Grab a 12 point socket that is just slightly smaller than the locknut... pound that sucker on there and voila... instant key.

20mm socket
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 08, 2010, 04:08:38 PM
Fug...that would work with the wheel locks on my car...they have some weird pattern on the outside which is kind of bolt shaped.  This particular bolt is a nice smooth cylinder around the outside, so I'm not sure how well a smaller socket would seat overtop of it.  (although I'm sure hammers can work wonders)

Found the jack, tire iron, and the long pouch thing with the rods along the side....but no key :(

Previous owner was going to Edmonton at 3ish today, as he's a truck driver, so I missed calling him (whoops)....I'll have to check tomorrow.

If someone could confirm it's the same for all Jeeps (or if they only had like....10 different patterns), then I'll see if I can pick one up at the dealership...there's one down the road from my work, nice and close (Tower Chrysler / Jeep?).  At the very least if they have a master they can remove this one and hopefully give me a new bolt (or a new locking bolt and key) for a decent price....dealerships are so expensive though.


Fog lights work, thanks Slewfoot!


...and I forgot to take a picture of the switch, I'll try to get it tonight when I get home.  I'll also try to see if it's a locker override switch.

Thanks again guys!
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: JackstandJohnny on June 08, 2010, 04:27:04 PM
Fug...that would work with the wheel locks on my car...they have some weird pattern on the outside which is kind of bolt shaped.  This particular bolt is a nice smooth cylinder around the outside, so I'm not sure how well a smaller socket would seat overtop of it.  (although I'm sure hammers can work wonders)

needs to be smaller to hammer on; so the socket can dig into the bolt..............   


pretty resourceful guys.   sounds like more fun than going to the dealership.

when i had to do this the locknut that i took off had actually broke.  so nothing to hammer ;) 
oh fun times.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: FiEND on June 08, 2010, 04:29:41 PM
no, there is no master key.  once i needed them off and cost me $15 per tire.

go to canadian tire and buy this kit and you are good for life.

link (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/Sockets/SocketSets/PRD~0589132P/Mastercraft%252BExtract-it%252B5-piece%252BSet/CROSSSELL~0253267%20Powerbuilt%2BStud%2BRemover.jsp?locale=en)
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Slewfoot on June 08, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
If someone could confirm it's the same for all Jeeps (or if they only had like....10 different patterns), then I'll see if I can pick one up at the dealership...there's one down the road from my work, nice and close (Tower Chrysler / Jeep?).  At the very least if they have a master they can remove this one and hopefully give me a new bolt (or a new locking bolt and key) for a decent price....dealerships are so expensive though.

I'll check mine when I get home this evening and post back here.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Slewfoot on June 08, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
My lug nut key has five swirls so it's not gonna be any help...sorry.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: mrjeep4 on June 08, 2010, 06:00:49 PM
i lost my safety lug nut key a while ago ...    I took an angle grinder and ground two flats on them so a wrench fit on them to take them off
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Rich99 on June 08, 2010, 06:33:49 PM
Looks real nice. Good find!
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: w squared on June 08, 2010, 07:33:46 PM
i lost my safety lug nut key a while ago ...    I took an angle grinder and ground two flats on them so a wrench fit on them to take them off

That's using your head instead of using brute force. :D

Isn't that grounds for being voted out of the club? Or at least a good reason for having to pay the bar tab at the next meeting?
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: fug on June 08, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
That's using your head instead of using brute force. :D

Isn't that grounds for being voted out of the club? Or at least a good reason for having to pay the bar tab at the next meeting?

Unless your wheels are Rubicon wheels in which case you have a severely damaged wheel at this point :P :P   
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 09, 2010, 11:12:21 AM
sounds like it could be a  safety bypass for the lockers ...      on a stock rubi  you can only engage the lockers when the t-case is in 4-low.  There's a hack you can do to bypass this so your lockers can work when the t-case in in 4-hi  or even 2-hi.  I did this on my rubicon  and wired in a switch  so i could  turn the "hack"  on and off.       To see if it's that   try turning your lockers on  in 4-hi  ( with the jeep not moving )  with the switch in different positions.

- If the lockers turn on in 4-hi  then it's been hacked  
- if you can't turn them on with the switch in the opposite position.. that means the switch controls the hack
- if you're lockers don't come on in 4-hi no matter what position the switch is ... then you jeep hasn't been hacked  and i don't know what the switch is  lol

Eric

Ding!  We have a winner.  I was randomly stopped at a stop light yesterday on my way home, and I checked to see if the lockers would turn on (2hi).  They did...so I turned them off, flipped the switch, and they wouldn't turn on.

One mystery solved!


My lug nut key has five swirls so it's not gonna be any help...sorry.

Thanks for trying!  I think the angle grinder trick might work the best, although, like fug said....don't want to damage the wheels!
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: Pookapotamus on June 09, 2010, 11:33:52 AM
i have heard that you can stop by the dealer and they will remove it for you. not sure if this is correct or not.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: w squared on June 09, 2010, 11:43:15 AM
All depends on whether you've got OEM wheel locks or aftermarket wheel locks on there.

It's definitely something that you'll want to get sorted out beore the Jeep 101. Not being able to change a tire on the trail is not a good thing.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 09, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
It's definitely something that you'll want to get sorted out beore the Jeep 101. Not being able to change a tire on the trail is not a good thing.

Haha, definitely, I was thinking that myself.

I called the previous owner...he is going to get me the tow bar (I could have sworn he mentioned it, but it wasn't in the back when I picked it up from his place on Monday....turns out it was in storage at his farm, and he won't be going there for a week or two).

He thought he might have a socket key, but he wasn't sure, so I'm going to run down to Tower Chrysler shortly and see if the have one in the shop.  I just called and they said if it's an OEM one, then they should have a master key to remove it.  If not, then I'll have to go one of the other routes mentioned.


Edit:  Also, what do you guys think of running locks on the wheels?  Should I buy a set of 5, and put one on each wheel + the spare....or just put one on the spare?  I would be somewhat worried about damaging the key / lock on the trail, and not being able to change the tire.  I've never had that happen before, but...if something went wrong, that would be the worst time.

I run them on the sports car right now, which makes sense, but, I'm not really sure if they'd be required on the Jeep.  Although I will be parking the Jeep outside pretty much all the time...
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 09, 2010, 03:48:25 PM
Just got back from Tower Chrysler, they removed the nut, no problem!

Wow...I think that means all my questions have been answered.

Locking nut, off.
Misc. switch, removes the safeguard limitations on the lockers.
Tow hooks are good.
Tires are good (but I have been told to take them in for balancing, or to see why there is a slight vibration through the steering column / steering wheel).

Now I just need to learn how to put on the soft top :D

Although for this weather I thin I'll leave the hard top on for now....maybe for the course too.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: FiEND on June 09, 2010, 03:50:03 PM
youtube for soft top help
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: OffRoadNewbie on June 11, 2010, 02:53:30 PM
Just got back from Tower Chrysler, they removed the nut, no problem!

Wow...I think that means all my questions have been answered.

Locking nut, off.
Misc. switch, removes the safeguard limitations on the lockers.
Tow hooks are good.
Tires are good (but I have been told to take them in for balancing, or to see why there is a slight vibration through the steering column / steering wheel).

Now I just need to learn how to put on the soft top :D



Although for this weather I thin I'll leave the hard top on for now....maybe for the course too.

your best to wait for a hot day leave it in the sun for a few hours it will make life so much easier ;)
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: w squared on June 11, 2010, 05:16:58 PM
your best to wait for a hot day leave it in the sun for a few hours it will make life so much easier ;)

These are VERY wise words.

I put on my JK soft top for the first time on a cool, cloudy spring day.

I swore a lot, spent six times as much time on it as I should have, and lost a bunch of skin off my knuckles. Life is way easier if you install it on a warm day.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: OffRoadNewbie on June 11, 2010, 06:31:24 PM
i to leard this the hard way  :-\
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: BlackAura on June 12, 2010, 11:19:52 AM
Sounds good, I'll wait until it's nice and warm outside....unfortunately it turns out I'm missing the rear windows, and the hand screws that mount the door rail things, so I might have to wait a little while anyways.  :'(
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: tubby on June 12, 2010, 12:29:36 PM
You can acquire new plastic windows from any shop that does boat top upholstery. They will sew them into your soft top for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Picked up the Rubi last night! (lots of pics)
Post by: shayu on June 12, 2010, 05:14:34 PM
Congrats!
TJ RUBICON is classic,engine and short base are awsome!Sometimes somehow,i wanna trade my jk to a tj.Seriously.