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Title: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 08, 2010, 08:33:17 AM
Hey guys,
I am new to this city and this forum, I was hit by a drunk last night who didnt have insurance and now I have to get this fixed, and there is no way a dealership in this city will touch my rig. I read that Chanda is the place to go, how much is this going to cost me, to fix it completely and to get it back on the road.

Its driveable right now but as you can see it bent my arm back against my spring. no serious internal injuries though.

Guys I would GREATLY appreciate your advice!

Thanks again,
Chad




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Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: BlackYJ on July 08, 2010, 08:55:58 AM
I don't know if it is the picture or not but it looks like your knuckle is bent, so you might want to start sourcing a new front axle because it will probably be cheaper.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: JackstandJohnny on July 08, 2010, 08:57:50 AM
yep.  its probalby bent too; that axle is shot.  looks like you got hit hard.

for your fenders, might be time to look aftermarket for a set of tube fenders, or hit PNP and the interwebs to find a set of red fenders that someone has kicking around after doing a tubefender swap.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: OffRoadNewbie on July 08, 2010, 08:58:59 AM
If your driving it .........Drive it down to Jays  (CHANDA) ......he can give you your best idea(s) ;)
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: OffRoadNewbie on July 08, 2010, 09:14:25 AM
If your driving it .........Drive it down to Jays  (CHANDA) ......he can give you your best idea(s) ;)

And judging by the pics i would say a front axle like the others said  :-\
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 08, 2010, 09:36:19 AM
Just talked to the guys at Chanda apparently Jay is out of commission for a while. Can you guys reccomend any other places? I can drive it fine its just the knuckle rubbing against my spring.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: fug on July 08, 2010, 09:53:09 AM
You can't drive it.  The balljoints are done.  Don't drive it!!!! You are fine now... but you won't be if you keep driving it.

I would look for a new axle...you're inner C might be messed up from a hit that hard.  Low pinion dana 30's are easy to come by so it shouldn't be to hard to find one and drop it in.   You're probably going to want to take a good look at the control arms and likely replace them too.  Steering will need to be done too.  All of these should be readily available as most guys upgrade all that when they lift. 



Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 08, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
alright here is my situation. my garage is about 700 kms away in sask, I obviously need some work done Jay is out of commission. best place to look for a new axle in town? best place to get this work done?
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: BlackYJ on July 08, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
Just talked to the guys at Chanda apparently Jay is out of commission for a while. Can you guys reccomend any other places? I can drive it fine its just the knuckle rubbing against my spring.

It is not safe to drive.  As stated, if you drive it, you risk your wheel falling off because the ball joint is toast.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: hps4evr on July 08, 2010, 10:07:33 AM
is your insurance going to do anything for you? just cause the other guy had no insurance doesnt mean you dont?
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: fug on July 08, 2010, 10:09:39 AM
Someone on the site will likely have an axle you can install.  I have a housing you could have but it would be quicker and cheaper to find something complete and just bolt it in (my housing would require gears and someone to set them up).

You could try PM'ing bnine and see if he has time to help you out if you just want to get it done.  If you want to take a bit more time and do it yourself I'm sure someone in the club would let you use a garage for an afternoon and lend a hand in exchange for pizza and beer.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 08, 2010, 10:39:36 AM
is your insurance going to do anything for you? just cause the other guy had no insurance doesnt mean you dont?

my insurance is ridiculous as is, I am trying to decide if its worth the increase in premiums.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: JackstandJohnny on July 08, 2010, 10:52:59 AM
don't go through insurance.

they'll write it off.

unfortunately, 97 TJs aren't 'worth' as much as everyone wishes they were.  thats easily gonna be a quote of 4 - 5k in damage to fix at a shop.  and unless your gastank is full of gold, i dont' think they'd fix it...............


right now, Kijiji is your friend.  hit it and start looking for D30s out of TJs. theres a few out there.  then start looking for fenders etc.  call wreckers, etc. 

i feel for you; situation really sucks, but you're going to have to get crafty to fix it on the cheap, or pay big bucks to get it done right.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: OffRoadNewbie on July 08, 2010, 11:07:35 AM
http://forum.calgaryjeep.com/index.php?topic=18981.0

is a set of axles might be worth the look its a nice upgrade too  ;)
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: WhiteOut on July 08, 2010, 11:17:23 AM
I might be able to help you out, I'll check after work.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 08, 2010, 11:49:36 AM
definitely need a new axle and might get some tube fenders, probably should do a lift while im at it. i have a vacation in the mountains from the 14th to 21st, gotta do what it takes to get this done.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: Bnine on July 08, 2010, 02:10:04 PM
Call insurance and see if they will class it as no fault. If so, take the claim, let them right it off for 5 grand, buy it back for under a 1000. Between the deductable, and the buy back, you should have enough to afford some upgrades.

In the short term, if you want it road worthy fast, call my uncles shop and see if he can do the balljoints to get you going on your holiday.

Hitech Auto

403-243-0424

Ask for Herb, tell him Billy sent you.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: BlackAura on July 08, 2010, 02:25:31 PM
Call insurance and see if they will class it as no fault. If so, take the claim, let them right it off for 5 grand, buy it back for under a 1000. Between the deductable, and the buy back, you should have enough to afford some upgrades.

Be careful if you do this...I'm not totally sure how this works, and I would recommend you call a registrations office to find out exactly.  Also, this is more for Alberta, I'm not sure how things work out in Saskatchewan.

I believe the vehicle title will change to the salvaged status when you buy it back...you can't register it with this status.  Then once you fix it, you need to have an inspection done (for Alberta, this is an OOP inspection with some additional structural integrity stuff, so probably pricey...say $150), at which point it will change to a rebuilt status (now you can register it again).  This will stay with the vehicle forever, and when you go to sell it, if someone pulls a VIR at a registrations office, they will see that it's been rebuilt.

However, if you're getting $5,000 less your deductible and the cost of buying it back, out of it, then you probably don't care too much what the title status is.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 08, 2010, 02:36:26 PM
making a claim is out of the question and I need a new axle regardless, I talked to dave and broken axle and I am going to see if he can find something that will work. Bnine, any idea on where the best place to have this done in less than a weeks time?
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: SwampSinger on July 08, 2010, 02:49:34 PM
Go to PNP and get a front axle (HPD30) out of a cherokee...there are usually a few out there...make sure you have the same gear ratio.

Billy's oncle does great work at a real good prices also.

Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: WagoneerXJ on July 08, 2010, 02:58:39 PM
Also keep in mind that you can use an XJ HP front Dana 30, just get one with the same gears. Should be a little easier to find than a TJ axle.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: Bnine on July 08, 2010, 03:42:11 PM
I have a TJ axle coming out, but not right away, and probably not matching your ratio. A 97 sport is usually 3.07.

The axle we are pulling I think is 373, and 99% of wrecker xj's are 355's.

See what Dave can do on short notice.

Maybe just do the balljoints for a tempory fix. Just dont run them for long, or your tires will die a grissly death.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: WagoneerXJ on July 08, 2010, 04:52:36 PM
I have a TJ axle coming out, but not right away, and probably not matching your ratio. A 97 sport is usually 3.07.
The axle we are pulling I think is 373, and 99% of wrecker xj's are 355's.

my girlfriend's 97 TJ Sport 4.0 has 3.73's. Maybe she got lucky?
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: Unknown303 on July 08, 2010, 07:10:35 PM
I have a whole TJ for sale.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-SUVs-trucks-vans-SUV-crossover-1997-Jeep-Wrangler-W0QQAdIdZ216262717
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: ornamental on July 08, 2010, 07:47:14 PM
my 97 sport has 355 gears,   better check and you might get lucky with a cherokee axle
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: SilverTJ on July 08, 2010, 11:20:58 PM
By the end of the month I will have the front D30 out of an 04 TJ with 373 gearing for sale (this might be the one BNine is refering to). It will have about 65K on it. I don't know if you can wait that long but if you can send me a PM, and we can work something out.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: Jrama on July 09, 2010, 08:31:12 AM
3.73 - 1998-2006
* Optional ratio used with 6 cyl manual and automatic except the Rubicon
* Standard ratio used with most 4 cyl automatics
* Standard ratio used with 4 cyl 6 speed
* Standard ratio used with Dana 44 rear axle except the Rubicon
from Jeepforum.com

Apparently 3.73 wasn't even an option for the first year run of the TJ

Looks like Yours can only be a 3.07, 4.10, or maybe 3.55.
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: Rich99 on July 11, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
definitely need a new axle

Was this thread hijacked? did you get help?

Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: Rubi03 jef on July 11, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Was this thread hijacked? did you get help?



if you just need a new axle then install any d30 from a TJ or XJ just dont run a front drive shaft .. at least that will get your home or on vacation .

that way you dont have to worry about gears
Title: Re: I crashed!
Post by: chayden on July 12, 2010, 08:50:33 AM
I think I've found one. I decided to fly instead, the TJ is going to stayed parked for a little while.