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General Forums => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Elsifer on August 24, 2010, 08:52:56 PM
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As a post office box or mailing address in Montana that will either; A) hold for pickup, or B) forward to a Canadian address?
Seems the border is getting tighter lately for "certain" items.
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As a post office box or mailing address in Montana that will either; A) hold for pickup, or B) forward to a Canadian address?
Seems the border is getting tighter lately for "certain" items.
I think that "iamgary" on the Edmonton Jeep Community may have some knowledge about this....if I remember correctly. Ontario border, but it was still jeep parts and across the border.
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I'm trying to ship something other than Jeep parts. More like parts that relate to things going bang.
US Border service visited one of my favorite manufacturer's down south, and basically, prohibited them from shipping across the border. But, anyone else can ship across the border, just not the manufacturer. Something to do with Durka's buying stuff from the US, and shipping it to Farkistan.
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https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopcontent.asp?type=Aboutus
These guys started out in busuness doing this and have expanded to regular sales . There is also a guy in cranbrook who does this but I lost his contact info.
Went to a faverite store in Coutts regularily till 9,11 happenened and all the laws changed :'(
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I heard about a guy who would ship stuff with UPS to a UPS location south of the border, drive across, pick it up, and drive it back. I'm not exactly sure how it worked, but he basically saved on the horrible custom/duty/brokerage fees UPS would charge. You may be able to do this with your items. I think after 5 days though, they ship it back (or you have to pay for them to store it possibly?).
Good luck!
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I have also heard the same thing and have a buddy who has done that. . .seemed to work well for him.
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As a post office box or mailing address in Montana that will either; A) hold for pickup, or B) forward to a Canadian address?
Seems the border is getting tighter lately for "certain" items.
Montana Shipping outlet .com will receive your package for $3.00. They charge a few extra dollars for what ever they classify as being oversized. Check out their web.
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There are huge consequences at the border for importing and exporting and being in possesion of on both sides of the border regarding things that go bang without all the export and import permits in place. Pm me if you want details on what you can do legally at the border.
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Pm me if you want details on what you can do at the border.
PLease... :o keep this discussion about things that go bang on PMs
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Discussing things go bang on a public board is fine. (in my opinion, at least.)
Discussing a non-legal way around the US State department restrictions around exporting something that goes "bang" or a part thereof is just plain stoopid.
Attempting to drive across the border with a "bang" part or accessory that the US State Department has not issued an export license for is beyond stoopid. You are risking losing you right to enter the US and your vehicle...and understand that US Customs has police powers that are essentially unrestricted if you are within 50 miles or so of the border....which means that they can do some things way outside what Canada Customs would do.
Shipping Jeep stuff to a Montana address to avoid UPS brokerage and then trying to get out of paying GST at the border is one thing. Gun parts and accessories are a whole different animal.
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get out of paying GST at the border is one thing. Gun parts and accessories are a whole different animal.
Personally I'm quite happy to pay the GST, and will claim the parts that I'm bringing back at the border on the way home from my trip to Seattle in a week.
I just hate the prices UPS charges for brokerage fees...after the dollar had somewhat recovered from not being worth much (compared to the USD), and before the economy had adjusted prices for ordering stuff cheap online from the states, I ordered a pair of headphones: $120 + shipping. After UPS had their way with me...$180 (seriously, brokerage fees + shipping + customs + tax worked out to 50% of the value of the item?). On the bright side (or even more scary?), the same set here was $230, so I still saved myself $50 :o
Edit: As per what w squared said.....I don't condone smuggling things across the border, you should always declare what you're bringing into the country when you are asked by border officials.
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Discussing things go bang on a public board is fine. (in my opinion, at least.)
Uhm, NO!
There are so many items that we, or USA has, which easily aid transfer of dangerous gas, or aid in single pull trigger go boom type scenarios...
I see no need to discuss this in public forum.
"they" are now having a hard time coming up with solutions so they are turning to NA for ideas....
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Well, what I am looking to ship doesn't go bang all by itself. But combine it with many other parts, and as a whole they make bang. And none of those parts are on the prohibited bang-list here in Canada. And none of those parts are US export restriction items either.
For Fraks Sakes, the part I have ordered from the States is made of wood, and it supports the bang parts, of a rimfire small calbre gopher thumper.
www.montanashipping.com
I'm using them, will let you know how things turn out. And their prices are quite reasonable. Even for pallet sized jeep parts, etc.
I always declare what I am bringing across, especially when its parts that make bang. I've never attempted to bring over a whole bang-stick, but I would leave that to the professionals who already have established local businesses dealing with such things.
I thought that NAFTA was supposed to make goods flow across the border easier. Apparently it's easier to transport a container full of human beings, rather than simple goods. Bureaucracy making things harder for the honest person.
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www.montanashipping.com
I've used these guys in the past and had good experiences. Fairly hassle- free and more than reasonable prices.
Good luck with your shipment Chris
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Well, what I am looking to ship doesn't go bang all by itself. But combine it with many other parts, and as a whole they make bang. And none of those parts are on the prohibited bang-list here in Canada. And none of those parts are US export restriction items either.
For Fraks Sakes, the part I have ordered from the States is made of wood, and it supports the bang parts, of a rimfire small calbre gopher thumper.
www.montanashipping.com
I'm using them, will let you know how things turn out. And their prices are quite reasonable. Even for pallet sized jeep parts, etc.
I always declare what I am bringing across, especially when its parts that make bang. I've never attempted to bring over a whole bang-stick, but I would leave that to the professionals who already have established local businesses dealing with such things.
I thought that NAFTA was supposed to make goods flow across the border easier. Apparently it's easier to transport a container full of human beings, rather than simple goods. Bureaucracy making things harder for the honest person.
I feel your pain. I had a replacement trigger group for a 10/22 spend better than 90 days sitting in customs. :(
The issue is that the US DOS changes their mind more frequently than a Jeeper changes their tires, so some retailers have reacted by saying that they're not going to ship outside of the US because they can't afford a legal beagle just to figure out what is legal to ship this week.
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Anything under $ 100 that is firearms related does not require an export permit. Exception being ammo and receiver which require an end user certificate. Nor can a person who is in possession of it , if they are not an American citizen . Accessories I.E. slings or mounts no export or import permits required . If the parts is worth more then $ 100 then you need all the permits. There are local manufactures and suppliers in Alberta that should be able to help you out. What part is it that you need ?
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Always declare what you have at the border. GST on $2000 is ONLY $100.
Getting caught to save on GST is soooooooo not worth it.
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… What part is it that you need ?
I've ordered a rifle stock from http://www.sharpshootersupply.com
I think the cost came to like US$250 or so.
Like I said before, it's a part that doesn't change the category under which to intended bang-stick is classified under.
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This has to do with ATF rules. Tried finding the info on there web site but could not find what i was looking for. The export permit is from them and the import permit was from the Canadian side. The laws are continually changing . It used to be form 6 a .but now they changed it so i do not know what form it is now. Pretty nice stock . How are you going to finish it with tung oil ?
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I was gonna use Tru-Oil, but I'm not sure how it's gonna turn out, as I've ordered the "Triple-Black".
Planning on trying it in the magazine well or on the butt to see how it looks, (and maybe do a 2nd or 3rd coat to darken) and either complete it, or sand it off and try something else.
The bang-stick itself is a heavy stainless with a crappy composite stock. The stock is pre-accustock, and flexes too much, wrong shape where it needs to be, no comb, fore-end too narrow, weighted funny, blaa-blaa-blaa. That's what I get for going budget, rather than spending a bit more for a quality OE stock.
Then a better scope… There really is too many things to spend money on. I really have to learn to leave things well enough alone. ::)
Maybe I'll talk to some of the local shops about the import, and see what their opinions are. For something like this, I want my ducks in a row.
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Not familiar with triple black but tru oil is pretty dam good stuff as you can touch it up real easy when you put a scuff or srape on it. Gonna bed it your self as well ? My husky was the same way got a crack in it so N & s Stocking out of leader made me a stock with half inch more comb and an inch and a quarter less length of pull out of a select grade of walnut. It fits me real well. He did the inletting and I finished it. Well it,s never finished got a piece of purple heart ond african black wood for the fore end and under the grip and I picked up a set of checkering tools . ::) Did not mean to scare you and the american laws , just do not want to get some one in trouble. Sept 18 there is a gun show at thorncliffe community centre go there and ask all the quistions with all the dealers.
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Oh wow, that's way more class than I want in a gopher slayer.
The stock I ordered is a laminate wood, each layer can be ordered to be a different colour. Up to three layers. I wanted to keep the shiny on black look, so the "triple-black" wood colours. Plus it comes fully bedded and inlet. The only thing they can't provide is the stainless trigger guard as mine is integrated with the synthetic stock. But they are including swivel studs, the same LOP, and fully bedded. I just have to transfer the action over to the new one, and tighten the three bolts.
Not sure how the Tru-Oil will turn out, as I think the actual oil is brown and stains brown, and the wood is black-ish. I'll take some before/after's to show the difference.
SharpShootSupply came recommended by other small calibre owners down south. They specialize in the Savage actions, and have the actions to pre-bed the stock.
I like the synthetic stocks, but for some reason, I grow more and more dissatisfied with mine every time I go out with it. It's just not comfortable. It is ridiculously accurate, but I feel it could be "better".
Wow, this thread got really off-topic!
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There is a thread in alberta outdoorsman about importing bang stuff in the guns and ammo section .