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Title: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 08, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/dac1979/Ranch201620110720009a.jpg)

Hunting season is getting closer :)

This ad is funny.  Americal cattleman Spokesperson.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/538f0371f2/matthew-mcconaughey-creepy-beef-spokesman-from-that-happened (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/538f0371f2/matthew-mcconaughey-creepy-beef-spokesman-from-that-happened)
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: FiEND on October 08, 2010, 09:36:16 AM
nope, isn't funny.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 08, 2010, 10:01:44 AM
My apologies if it offends the vegans.   ::)
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: FiEND on October 08, 2010, 10:25:37 AM
has nothing to do with vegan.

i am about enjoying! not killing, maiming, exploding, hacking, slashing, gutting, bleeding, shooting, stabbing, piercing, bludgeoning, strangling, scaring, chasing, luring and eating warm liver....[breath] nature. 

Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: Knox on October 08, 2010, 10:50:54 AM
eating warm liver....

I don't enjoy liver, i rank it up there with tongue
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 08, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
has nothing to do with vegan.

i am about enjoying! not killing, maiming, exploding, hacking, slashing, gutting, bleeding, shooting, stabbing, piercing, bludgeoning, strangling, scaring, chasing, luring and eating warm liver....[breath] nature. 



You have any idea what the animals in slaughter houses go through?  Me shooting a deer in the neck and dropping it instantly is far more humane than shooting a pig with a rubber bullet (which does not always kill them) and scalding the hair off it.  Or, knocking out a cow, hanging it up and ripping the hide off, sometimes still alive.

If you want the meat the animal has to die one way or the other.  It's not always pretty.

I'm not for liver either, I like the heart meat.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: FiEND on October 08, 2010, 10:56:56 AM
actually I do.  my step dad worked at all the meat factories in OGDEN for 25 years till they all shut down.  i had heart and tongue and all other good stuff in my fridge daily from grade 1 to 12.  my brother was on the killing floor.  they are shot in the brain with an air gun, usually a few times to kill them DEAD.

yet they don't stand there cheering and applauding or bragging that they killed something for the FUN or ENJOYMENT of it.

that is the difference to me.  need is one thing, desire is ... well, that's why God created women, not guns.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 08, 2010, 11:06:04 AM
they are shot in the brain with an air gun, usually a few times to kill them DEAD.

yet they don't stand there cheering and applauding or bragging that they killed something for the FUN or ENJOYMENT of it.

I know for a fact they are not all dead when they go through.  There is a spot the size of a quarter if you make an x between the ears and eyes.  If you miss, you can hit them with a rifle and they won't go down.

And who said anything about bragging?  I haven't shot a trophy buck ever, I don't own any mounts and don't have any pictures of past kills.  It's not worth it.  Besides, the trophy bucks are old and don't taste good. 
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: FiEND on October 08, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
you are posting a picture of a deer, all excited about hunting season coming... guess 1+1=2

so what you are saying is you can kill them all with one shot from many angles and distances, but if a trained air gun operator at a precise topside angle and touching the animals head misses the quarter, the animal won't die.... hrmmm the BS in here smells worse than OGDEN circa 1985 :)

anyway defend yourself by pointing fingers elsewhere all you want.  i need to work and then go for lunch... mmm salad  :P
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 08, 2010, 11:40:54 AM
you are posting a picture of a deer, all excited about hunting season coming... guess 1+1=2

so what you are saying is you can kill them all with one shot from many angles and distances, but if a trained air gun operator at a precise topside angle and touching the animals head misses the quarter, the animal won't die.... hrmmm the BS in here smells worse than OGDEN circa 1985 :)

anyway defend yourself by pointing fingers elsewhere all you want.  i need to work and then go for lunch... mmm salad  :P

Hunting isn't just about killing, it's about being outside, fresh air, it's a nature thing.  Just because you hunt something doesn't mean you don't have respect for it.  You pick your shots carefully so you don't have to chase a wounded animal for hours.

As for the cows, unless you put them in a squeeze complete with head brace how do you expect someone to have a controlled shot with an air gun?  Not gunna happen.  I've worked with cows before, they usually don't stand still once you start chasing them down a line.  Even if they did I'm pretty sure they don't shoot them at point blank range anymore.  Cargill, High River.  It's from a distance, they don't always hit their mark.  Olymil pigs in Red Deer, I've heard stories from people that have been threw there.  Most of the animals are dead before they get butchered, sure, but not all.

Call BS all you want, doesn't change the fact that I'm right and you're just upset because I like hunting and fishing.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: CatSplat on October 08, 2010, 11:51:46 AM
yet they don't stand there cheering and applauding or bragging that they killed something for the FUN or ENJOYMENT of it.


Ah, gotcha, it's OK to do something for work, but not if you happen to enjoy doing it recreationally.

Some people do their big game hunting at Safeway, others take a more direct approach.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: hps4evr on October 08, 2010, 11:59:03 AM
im in no way a hunter or fisher person. but ive known plenty of people that did both. it always seemed you were in it for 1 of 2 reasons. either for the sport of it,  like catch and release. or for the food, like the deer sausage. government sets limits on both so we dont run out of wild animals. and anything that goes into a slaughter house is just a mass produced object anyways. not trying to make a point on one or the other. but hunting is much like fourwheeling. an outdoor sport limited so as not to over burden the land and its inhabitants. we have only one earth so i figure we should enjoy it to a certain degree before its gone.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 08, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
you are posting a picture of a deer, all excited about hunting season coming... guess 1+1=2

Actually, that's not why I posted it at all.  Has more to do with you taking the picture of my jeep off jeep of the month.  You're a smart guy, you work with computers.  I can't see you making a mistake like that on a single digit tally of 2 names.  If you read your tie breaker post (below) you make it sound like the votes were beside the pics.  If I remember correctly the vote box was beside the names at the top of the page like all the other vote style threads not down by the pictures.

So considering the points above, the fact that I hunt, you don't like it and you don't know me I think it's pretty safe to say the vote was rigged.

still working out the bugs from the first ever.. sheesh.  the poll was done in reverse order of the pictures posted  so (like a dope) of course I grabbed the wrong photo as the wiener.  appologies to both parties.  the front page will be corrected as soon as I can do it.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: FiEND on October 08, 2010, 10:39:09 PM
no, it was a honest mistake.

i posted the poll with 2 names in no particular order.  then i posted the pictures, but accidentally put the pictures in reversed order of the poll

so when i looked at the most votes it was the top person so I grabbed the first picture ... or second, depending on who won.

if you look at the original vote they should be in the same order, votes and pictures.  if not, it can get confusing... people are like I like #3 and vote for #3 in the list.

the problem is (and half the reason i wanted to do jeep of the month)  is I don't know very many members or their jeeps or their names for that matter.  I do not know who you are in real life and i certainly dont know your jeep.  jeep of the month puts names to jeeps.

then I got a PM

Did you make a mistake on the Jeep of the Month contest? Did I will or am I missing something?

No need to retract Dac's pic, leave it up - I was just wondering?

Holy cow. Yes I did lol. Sorry!  I think cause the pics are reversed to th poll names. I will fix it and we have a prize for you at the next meeting if you show

people make mistakes.  i was in a rush and screwed up and to top it off i forgot to PM you and explain and say sorry.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: SwampSinger on October 08, 2010, 10:50:26 PM
Al you are being a hypocrite...

....You're all about all kinds of sausage ::).... That's just city folks thinking a freaking steak never lived before. Hunting is 110% time more humane then what happen in all slaughter houses for all kinds of animals... that's cruelty!

OK ...i'm going back to what I was doing... (... I rock that stach like a hairy ninja!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGEN4g7ngOM
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: tubby on October 09, 2010, 01:22:32 AM
I don' t hunt deer for sport, but I'd shoot this thing if I came across it.

http://www.youtube.com/v/2yJuBipL7Wo?version=3

I'm pretty sure that I can't eat the meat so it's all yours Al !
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: morerpmfred on October 09, 2010, 08:32:05 AM
Hmmm steaaaak
I took the hunter ed course in 95 so I could eat organic meat. Intructors says this  there or certain values theat people have on hunting and 100 % of the people would be offenended by one of the reasons .
hunting for the trophy
hunting for the food
hunting for the grand slam [ filling all your tags in one year ]
hunting to kill
hunting cause you have a gun
hunting as a social sport {hunting with grandpa or dad or ? ]
hunting cause you enjoy the outdoors
Hunting is like four wheeling , there are many values attached to it some people hate rocks and some love long and deep mud bogs . Both sports offend people , but do we stop cause some one hates us for it ?
Me I hunt cause i enjoy the kill, have a gun , like to eat it , fill all my tags and have a trophy on the wall while enjoying the outdoors and good times with some friends.
Did my values just offend you ?
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 09, 2010, 09:09:20 AM
Al, if it was a mistakes that's ok.

The underlying issue is peoples perception of text.  If you attack a hobby that people like just because you don't it's hard to percieve if you're just messing with them or not.  It's like most people's view on 4x4'ing.  Both are legal, there are rules that govern both.  The best we can do is follow them to try and reduce the bad views people have of them.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: FiEND on October 09, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
i said it wasn't funny.  i didn't attack.  the next post attacked vegans.. way out of left field at that.  i am not the one who needs to defend myself.
Title: Re: Deer. It's what's for dinner!
Post by: dac on October 09, 2010, 10:22:04 PM
Defend from what Al?  In your seconds post you attacked hunters which I was trying to defend.  My response was merely that just because you buy meat from a supermarket doesn't mean the animal didn't suffer.  If you want to compare it, compare it to wheeling.  Lots of people look ill upon the 4x4 crowd because they think it's bad for the environment.