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General Forums => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: T-BOAN on December 23, 2010, 02:29:12 AM
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Need a little help here ladies and gents. I've got a problem up here in Huntington with my neighbour and his parking too close to my driveway. Does anyone know how far a vehicle has to be parked next to the opening of your driveway? I've asked politely on numerous occasions for the neighbour to keep a few feet from my driveway with his huge truck. It's about a foot away from the entrance or less. I kinow that snow makes it a tad bit hard for him to see but c'mon! I can barely get into my narrow driveway or back out of it without coming too close to his front bumper. It's one giant blindspot for me. I've tried calling the city but have had no luck getting a bylaw officer to come by. My wife and I have asked about ten times for him to keep a few feet away but he just mumbles and shrugs his shoulders. He slammed the door on my wife today and I'm gettin fumed right now. Any suggestions?
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http://www.calgary.ca/DocGallery/BU/cityclerks/41M2002.pdf
look under 3) Prohibitations.
g) within 1.5m of an access to a garage, private road or driveway, or a vehicle crossway over a sidewalk.
so it should be roughtly 5 feet ftom the entrance of your driveway.
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http://www.calgary.ca/DocGallery/BU/cityclerks/41M2002.pdf
look under 3) Prohibitations.
g) within 1.5m of an access to a garage, private road or driveway, or a vehicle crossway over a sidewalk.
so it should be roughtly 5 feet ftom the entrance of your driveway.
Yup
And when you call the city don't ask for a bylaw officer to come out.
Call 311 and tell them you want to report a by-law offence and which one it is, they will take down all the information and provide you with an incident number. They will send out a notification to the person and they will have a time to comply - usually 10 days from post of the notice. If he doesn't comply you call back with the incident number and by-law will send by an officer to either suggest more firmly or to give him a ticket or summons.
Just remember that he will know it was you so there is a that nice uncomfortable issue going forward.
But if you have done the nice neighbourly thing and he doesn't listen then to hell with him
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One of my favorites is park right behind of him almost touching his bumper and right in front of him so your almost touching his bumper. So now he can't get out. And now call in sick for 2 days, or get your friend to pick you up and drive you to work. It's harder for him to explain why he's not at work. Or borrow all his shredder valves from his tires, do so at your own risk
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Just remember that he will know it was you so there is a that nice uncomfortable issue going forward.
T-BOAN... I tip my hat to you for your patience.
I'm so happy I do not have neighbours like that. If I did and they were ignorant enough to slam the door on my wife... I would go out of my way to make sure the neighbour would know that he/she was getting a fine because of my complaint.
be smart about it... Get an incident number and play the game.
good luck!
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And when you call the city don't ask for a bylaw officer to come out.
Call 311 and tell them you want to report a by-law offence and which one it is, they will take down all the information and provide you with an incident number. They will send out a notification to the person and they will have a time to comply - usually 10 days from post of the notice. If he doesn't comply you call back with the incident number and by-law will send by an officer to either suggest more firmly or to give him a ticket or summons.
Just remember that he will know it was you so there is a that nice uncomfortable issue going forward.
But if you have done the nice neighbourly thing and he doesn't listen then to hell with him
That's odd that nobody would come out. When my neighbors didn't comply when requested, I called parking control directly and they came right out to issue tickets and even offered to have the vehicle towed. You can be redirected to parking control from the 311 menu or have their # direct in contacts like I ended up doing. Granted, the suggested way would give them another level of opportunity to be less self-centered.
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That's odd that nobody would come out. When my neighbors didn't comply when requested, I called parking control directly and they came right out to issue tickets and even offered to have the vehicle towed. You can be redirected to parking control from the 311 menu or have their # direct in contacts like I ended up doing. Granted, the suggested way would give them another level of opportunity to be less self-centered.
Maybe dependant on who you get on the phone and what mood they are in?? I was informed of my incident number and that they would receive notification in the mail. They never gave me an option to talk to parking control............although I didn't ask either.
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One of my favorites is park right behind of him almost touching his bumper and right in front of him so your almost touching his bumper. So now he can't get out. And now call in sick for 2 days, or get your friend to pick you up and drive you to work. It's harder for him to explain why he's not at work. Or borrow all his shredder valves from his tires, do so at your own risk
I would suggest trying this a few times before pissing on your neighbors door step,
If hes a hard neighbor to get along with. dont get him fined, or the next time you are out of line, hes just going to call and try to slap you with a fine back.
its alot easier to just park him in instead of deal with him once hes had a fine,
I have old neighbors that are a bit of a stick in the mud, but I shovel their snow. And i have had some pretty loud partys, and no one has ever said anything about the noise, its better to be nice to the neighbor even if you dont see eye to eye.
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I have old neighbors that are a bit of a stick in the mud, but I shovel their snow. And i have had some pretty loud partys, and no one has ever said anything about the noise, its better to be nice to the neighbor even if you dont see eye to eye.
If they're old, they probably just haven't reported you because they're kinda deaf. ;D
All kidding aside, this is a very good point. If you're the guys that shovels their snow all the time, you can just about guarantee that you've earned enough brownie points to cover a wide variety of neighbourly transgressions.
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I would likely try and talk to him one more time and let him know that the by-law is about 5 feet and that you are only asking for 2-3 or whatever you are asking for, and that you don't want to call the by-law guys because you want to be good neighbours but if he keeps on doing it you will be forced to call them out and it will be in the hands of the by-law officers at that point. that way you are showing him that you don't want to be a jerk unless he makes you, maybe take some cookies and say that you got off on the wrong foot and want to be friendly about things because you live next to each other and it would make things much easier.
I think taking the high road is better. who knows, it might make you good friends that can hang out and shoot the poop and work on vehicles together.
good luck
steve
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I would suggest trying this a few times before pissing on your neighbors door step,
If hes a hard neighbor to get along with. dont get him fined, or the next time you are out of line, hes just going to call and try to slap you with a fine back.
its alot easier to just park him in instead of deal with him once hes had a fine,
I have old neighbors that are a bit of a stick in the mud, but I shovel their snow. And i have had some pretty loud partys, and no one has ever said anything about the noise, its better to be nice to the neighbor even if you dont see eye to eye.
Indeed, I for one didn't go directly to tickets, though most of my problems are with visitors whom I didn't usually manage to "catch" to talk to. I considered how it would affect my relationship with my neighbor(s) and considered that, like the lady across the street, they could phone regularly and make people's life more complicated.
I talked to the neighbors many times, I asked them to move many times and for the most part we get along and we all overlook other things. There were the cases where someone parked directly behind our vehicles, blocking both of them in and it wasn't the next-door neighbors' visitors... turned out they were at the party down the street, coming back impaired to their vehicle to drive.. in retrospect, I wish it had been towed, but it *still* took him a block to see the ticket flapping under his wiper (he woke us up when he came to his truck to come home) and seemed quite mad... what do you expect when you block ALL of someone's vehicles in for hours while you are at a party????
I just don't understand what, if anything, is going through these people's head when they block driveways, especially if there is open parking across the street.
Hmm I didn't even know about the warning stuff, I'll have to remember that...
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I have a school right in front of my garage and have had a couple of instances of very disrespectful parents who figured I will just be in the school for a bit and parked right out in front of my driveway! On two occasions I called Calary Parking Authority and one time they took 20 mins the next time they were here in like 5 minutes. I think both times it was a $37 fine...which was just enough for the inconvenience of not being able to use my garage! I was told if the vehicle was still there in a half hour, I could have it towed, but even if they were there I would not have used that option. One thing to give a mom or a dad a ticket for being disrespectful completely different to leave the parents and the kids worrying about how they are getting home.
They were both completely blocking the driveway but the guy said as long as your driveway is clear and easy to identify where it ends then they can issue tickets!
However if it were a neighbor, I would try to talk to them and mention the fact that if it continues you will have no other choice but to call the city.
Good luck with whatever you do!
Oh yeah Calgary Parking Authority # (403) 537-7000
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neighbour had a problem with something similar to this; he put a rock on the corner of his drive to stop neighbour from driving over grass... neighbour ripped off bumper on rock....
my solution? get snow blower, or offer beer to friends. shovel snow onto road at foot of driveway, about 3 feet from over from drive. start showeling and pile it high; maybe about as high as the trucks headlights. pat it down; pour water on it. ice it over. add more snow. make it an immovable object. like a true pain in the a$$ blame city for 'finally' plowing snow, and piling it onto your lawn ;)
remember to 'water' it and ice it over so he can't just drive over it............
when neighbour wrecks bumper on snow, you can both call and complain to the city about the lack of snow removal..... by april, hopefully neighbour has gotten used to parking 'correctly'
its kind of like training a puppy.......... i would also suggest a boulder, but this would be more fun ;)
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neighbour had a problem with something similar to this; he put a rock on the corner of his drive to stop neighbour from driving over grass... neighbour ripped off bumper on rock....
my solution? get snow blower, or offer beer to friends. shovel snow onto road at foot of driveway, about 3 feet from over from drive. start showeling and pile it high; maybe about as high as the trucks headlights. pat it down; pour water on it. ice it over. add more snow. make it an immovable object. like a true pain in the a$$ blame city for 'finally' plowing snow, and piling it onto your lawn ;)
remember to 'water' it and ice it over so he can't just drive over it............
when neighbour wrecks bumper on snow, you can both call and complain to the city about the lack of snow removal..... by april, hopefully neighbour has gotten used to parking 'correctly'
its kind of like training a puppy.......... i would also suggest a boulder, but this would be more fun ;)
i like this idea.
Do you have another vehicle that you can park there leaving you lots of room. i was thinking a permanently parked vehicle.
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neighbour had a problem with something similar to this; he put a rock on the corner of his drive to stop neighbour from driving over grass... neighbour ripped off bumper on rock....
my solution? get snow blower, or offer beer to friends. shovel snow onto road at foot of driveway, about 3 feet from over from drive. start showeling and pile it high; maybe about as high as the trucks headlights. pat it down; pour water on it. ice it over. add more snow. make it an immovable object. like a true pain in the a$$ blame city for 'finally' plowing snow, and piling it onto your lawn ;)
remember to 'water' it and ice it over so he can't just drive over it............
when neighbour wrecks bumper on snow, you can both call and complain to the city about the lack of snow removal..... by april, hopefully neighbour has gotten used to parking 'correctly'
its kind of like training a puppy.......... i would also suggest a boulder, but this would be more fun ;)
Great idea Johnny!! Or try taking a 1" pipe & drive it into the asphalt at the 1.5m mark, wrap it with blaze orange marking tape, attach a copy of the by-law. :o Ask by-law enforcement for one of their signs & put it up, that way there is a daily reminder.
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haha, that would be a definite eye opener Rob!
i figure you have to live with neighbours, so 'try' and get along.
also, if the neighbours complain to you about it, or accuse you, tell them to take it up with the city ;) its their job for snow removal ;) so it won't be moved mwahahhaha
when i was in Ontario for christmas, London got so much snow that it was piled into the roadways, so much so it stopped people from parking there. why can't you do the same? ;)
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park where he parks .. beat him to it
and maybe if your lucky you have a spare car/truck you can leave there for a week or 2 make him park somewhere else
or like buddy above said just shovel as much snow as you can in that area so he canr park there
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Thanks for all the helps ladies and gents. . I didn't want to be angry over the holidays over this issue. I have lived next door to this couple for the last 5 years . I think I know why this neighbour is being a jerk. My pops parked in front of his house one time when he came to visit. The neighbour considered the front of his house to be his property but I know he doesn't own the street in front of his house. He left a horrible letter under his wiper blade that he typed out on his computer stating that the area in front of his house is his and no one could park there. Sure....
My pops just crumpled the letter and laughed. He never parked there again but I'm sure the neighbour was mad over that one incident as he never acknowledged me after that when I said hi when he was in his yard. I'll try one more time to be civil before I make phone calls to bylaw. I might try the shovel snow and add water trick around my driveway first. It really sucks to be a scrooge during the holidays though.
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Careful, I vaguely recall it is actually illegal to shovel the snow onto the roadway! At this time of night, I'm not finding the link tho.
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If he decides he wants to continue being a jerk....well, I'm in a fun mood. This was suggested on another site:
1) Buy a disposable cell phone, pay as you go. Buy firecrackers too.
2) Call cops and report someone of his description entering the house with what appeared to be a handgun.
3) Wait for cops to show up.
4) As they open their car door and start walking up walkway to his house, toss lit firecracker over fence into his back yard.
5)Mention nothing to the neighbor, but crack a wide smile each time you see him.
6) Repeat steps 1 to 5 as needed.
:D
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Perhaps a regular meet and greet at your place would clear things up after a few months.
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Perhaps a regular meet and greet at your place would clear things up after a few months.
Nice... :-)
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Naw ! I gotta live next to these people for god knows how long? I don't want to make the grump anymore mad at me or my family. I will kindly leave a note under his wiperblade asking him politely to move and cite the bylaw that states what the distance from one's driveway one can park their vehicle. That doesn't work? Then I'll park my eyesore beater VW Golf ther so at least it's my crap next to my driveway. Last move is call to bylaw. I know you can't chose who lives next to you. I used to invite this guy and his wife over for bbq's when I first moved in and he always said no. Maybe its me?
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neighbour had a problem with something similar to this; he put a rock on the corner of his drive to stop neighbour from driving over grass... neighbour ripped off bumper on rock....
I did exactly that on the corner of my front yard... I had a few black marks on the rocks and it's been 3-4 years that I have no tire tracks on my front lawn. It works like a charm...
Never heard a thing from the neighbours... some moved and I got new ones... still no complaints
It's sad that I had to do this... people are just idiots and don't care about others anymore. That's living in a big city for you :-[
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Few rolls of saran wrap and a tub of vaseline will fix this problem right up.
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Few rolls of saran wrap and a tub of vaseline will fix this problem right up.
You're one kinky fella! :o
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I did exactly that on the corner of my front yard... I had a few black marks on the rocks and it's been 3-4 years that I have no tire tracks on my front lawn. It works like a charm...
Never heard a thing from the neighbours... some moved and I got new ones... still no complaints
It's sad that I had to do this... people are just idiots and don't care about others anymore. That's living in a big city for you :-[
I have a single driveway in the front, and the tbird is parked on the side of it to allow people to walk by to the side door. Someone's been pulling in next to my car (parking part ways on the grass), and has hit the front step iron work. Bent it in almost 10*. I wonder if I can get a big rock to put on the front corner or if I'm stuck until it gets warm...
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I have a single driveway in the front, and the tbird is parked on the side of it to allow people to walk by to the side door. Someone's been pulling in next to my car (parking part ways on the grass), and has hit the front step iron work. Bent it in almost 10*. I wonder if I can get a big rock to put on the front corner or if I'm stuck until it gets warm...
Some nails through a board and buried upside down on the lawn might make a "point".
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Thought about that....but way too many people walk their pets by in this area. For now I'm going to park the car right in the middle of the driveway and put a couple driveway markers on the corner for now. I like the rock idea...may have to talk with a couple of the landscaping guys I know....
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I have a single driveway in the front, and the tbird is parked on the side of it to allow people to walk by to the side door. Someone's been pulling in next to my car (parking part ways on the grass), and has hit the front step iron work. Bent it in almost 10*. I wonder if I can get a big rock to put on the front corner or if I'm stuck until it gets warm...
You are saying they are parking part-way on your driveway and part-way on the lawn? No warning, impound. Of course, you *could* have that large load of rocks for a decorative wall dumped *behind* the car since it is *your* property!
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Yeah....I let it slide cause it was family, but no more! Especially after someone hit the iron handrail on the stairs. That and I'm getting tired of dealing with dead grass in the spring. Funny, because no one tries it during the summer.
I've got some 3/8" steel driveway markers that I'm just going to put on the corners of the driveway, and move the car into the middle of it. In the spring, I'll be getting a good sized rock that stands 3' high to put a stop to this permanently.
If people bitch....too bad. I've already vented on the entire family and they're not happy but no one wants to own up to doing it.
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Yeah....I let it slide cause it was family, but no more!
I'll be getting a good sized rock that stands 3' high to put a stop to this permanently.
Ah yes, a headstone on either side. It can be re-used for it's original purpose when someone owns up to doing it!
Get it engraved "You park here, You die!"
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You mentioned you live next to this 'couple'. Maybe try the wife factor. Explain to his wife that having the vehicle parked so close blocks the view of on-coming traffic and is dangerous, making your wife feel uncomfortable and puts your family at risk. She probably has more pull with him than you do. And is probably a little less hot under the collar about your Dad's parking job.
If she snubs you too, then I'd go on to explain, as previously mentioned, that while city streets are public property, and her husband does have a right to park there, he has to respect the 5 m rule (maybe at this point offer to put up a marker if it would make it easier for him because of the size of the vehicle), and you would hate to have to involve the city to make it a safe place for your family, since anytime you have to involve the city it results in fines, which wouldn't really make for good neighbour relations, now would it?
Good Luck with whatever path you choose.
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Go over with big glass of red wine... that seems to be a hit with ladies on our cul-de-sac ;)
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Go over with big glass of red wine... that seems to be a hit with ladies on our cul-de-sac ;)
And you call me a man-whore!!!! Pot, meet Kettle....
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I have a neighbor who was blocking my driveway for quite a while. He was doing reno's on his house, so I gave him some time to get the big dumpster out of his driveway. Even when the dumpster was gone, he kept blocking the driveway.
One day I asked him to please move his car a bit, my wife may accidentally hit the car when she goes to work. The guy asks me if I'm for real, and I say yes.... he then proceeds to call me an a#@hole. Never talks to me anymore (not a bad thing), and does not block the driveway either.
Pi@#ed him off good, but no more problems leaving the driveway.
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More fun things to do to a$$h0le$ who park like loosers. Wait till its cold and get a squirt bottle full of apple juice just start spraying on his windows, and then put some shoe prints on his hood. Or get a siringe full of water in the door locks. Bucket full of water allover the tires but first make a snow dam to hold the water in. Or you can move and replace all his wheel weight, zip tie to something that spins. Seafood juice in the fresh air vents. Most of these wont help with him parkiing like a looser but at least you will have fun.
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the "Poo-handle" could work too if you're really mad. . . grab a steaming pile of (insert mammal here) poo, and wipe it under his door handles. Clean off the exterior evidence. When Mr. X goes to sind his hands under his door handles he will feel a nice surprise. Make sure this is done when it is warm so the brown stuff is soft enough to get under his finger nails. Nasty!
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Vaseline on the wipers works good too.
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Vaseline on the wipers works good too.
now that could just be unsafe, funny, but not nice if he is driving and cant see
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Zip tie + driveshaft.
Dingman
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Print off the by-law sheet (lots of them) place them all over his truck (facing inward on the windows) the give his truck a good hosing when the temp is below freezing......
he should get the point!
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Unfortunately if your neighbor is a big time douche bag then no matter what you do to him, he'll probably think of something worse to do to you.....
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I'm making some progress with this one I think? I left the note with bylaw info in his mailbox and asked as nicely as I can in the letter if he can just give me some space. The note also has an invite to a bbq at my place and that he and his wife are invited over for dinner when they are available. I hoped to speak to him in person but he doesn't answer his door even though I can hear the tv on. The truck didn't move for a week and was still less than a foot from my driveway. I put a little wooden stake that had flagger orange paint on it and marked off where he should be parking his truck. I came home on sunday to find the stake broken in little pieces and left in my driveway. My course of action was to wait till he went to work yesterday morning and I piled a bunch of snow at the entrance to my driveway. I got three buckets of water and pored it on the pile. I noticed this morning that he parked a few feet from the snow pile. I know that I'm just buying myself time and that the snow will melt. The city has my complaint on file and I'll see what happens.
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Some people just don't have what it takes (honour, integrity, backbone, self-control, b*lls) to keep the agreements that they make every time they *CHOOSE* to take advantage of the *PRIVILEGE* of operating a motor vehicle and *CHOOSE* to climb behind the wheel. If he is that arrogant, self-centered and egotistical when he parks, imagine what he's like when he's actually moving!
Also consider the implications if impulse and convenience can push him into choosing to break the law on a regular basis... that's pretty weak.
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I had a similar problem a couple of years ago, a neighbor kept parking his car right behind my pickup in the 5 feet of space between his drive way and mine. After asking nicely on several occasions I finally got tired of "nice" and backed my 1980's Dodge over his front bumper and hood. This seemed to work as he moved his POS and never parked there again. Never heard another word from him and he moved shortly after. Just my 0.02
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I had a similar problem a couple of years ago, a neighbor kept parking his car right behind my pickup in the 5 feet of space between his drive way and mine. After asking nicely on several occasions I finally got tired of "nice" and backed my 1980's Dodge over his front bumper and hood. This seemed to work as he moved his POS and never parked there again. Never heard another word from him and he moved shortly after. Just my 0.02
Again, Parking someone in is alot easier than screwing with his car, haha, I would hate to be the neighbor of most of you guys, Some guys keep it clean and fun, And I like " my wife may hit it by accident when she goes to work" but the poo handle, thats just a plss off, and If you have an ongoing thing with him, they will know its you. What happened to the good ol egg, or yogert in minus 20, it freezes really nicely, but dont put poop on the guys hand at 6 am, it will probably earn you a nice burn out on your lawn,
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Poo handles work alot better on random cars.... not your neighbor