Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: w squared on January 10, 2011, 10:41:06 AM
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The "push-button" sway bar disco on my JK is starting to get pretty tired. It no longer disconnects in a prompt fashion...it will instead attmept to disconnect for 30 or even 60 minutes before successfully finishing the process. This definitely isn't the end of the world...but it does mean that I'll want to come up with a good method of disconnecting.
Off the top of my head, I see three options:
#1. Plain old swaybar disconnects. Cheap and simple. JKS, RE, or whatever other brand.
#2. Currie Antirock. More spendy, but I've heard that this setup still lets your rig articulate while offering good stability in off-camber situations. Then again, it's not like I have a ton of lift so I've never noticed a big issue in off-camber situations anyways. If you're running anti-rock, how much additional body roll have you noticed while on-road?
#3. ORO Swaylock. Even more spendy than the anti-rock, but supposedly it's the all-singing, all-dancing dual rate answer to the sway bar question that I've never heard anyone ask. Stiff sway-bar on-road, soft sway bar off-road. Honestly I'd probably go with the "manual" version since my lockers are electric (not air) and I'd rather not start making my rig more complex than it already is.
So I've done some reading, and googled a thing or two...but how about hearing from someone who's actually run Currie and/or ORO on their junk. What have you guys used, and how has it worked for ya?
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Really?
50-some views over two days and no reply? And here I was thinking that we had some opinionated folks on this board. ???
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No one really wheels a JK, Todd. ;)
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I haven't looked at their setup closely even though Michie ripped her air dam off the first time offroad a couple of years ago, but my first impression would be that the factory swaybar system may need some lubrication if it takes that long to lock/unlock?? Beyond that, I have really no opinion on either of those two, though I've looked at both over the years for my heep.
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No one really wheels a JK, Todd. ;)
Kev, you're just jealous of the fact that my rig doesn't have any drafts....yet.
Pat...yup. Those plastic air dam thingamajiggies don't last long on a trail rig. I trail-modded mine by accident during my first summer of wheeling the JK.
Honestly, I'd be happy to hear from someone that's been running an Anti-rock or Swaylok in a TJ or even (gasp) an XJ.
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or even (gasp) an XJ.
ouch! >:(
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My TJ has anti rocks front and rear. I love them. Think Al and Joel both run them as well. Probably a bunch of other guys as well.
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My TJ has anti rocks front and rear. I love them. Think Al and Joel both run them as well. Probably a bunch of other guys as well.
How does the softer sway bar handle road miles? Still fairly stable?
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An AR will make a noticeable difference on road. Things will get a little softer. If you can afford the swayloc, it by far is a superior unit for a dual purpose rig. The stiff rate on a swayloc is as stiff as stock, and maybe a bit stiffer. The soft rate is indentical to the AR.
I have about 5 swaylocs out on rigs I've built. I have about a dozen AR's out, and half a dozen rear AR's.
You cant compare an XJ's behavior with an AR due to the leaf spring rear end. The leafs in the back of an XJ make for very different handling characteristics compared to a wrangler, or ZJ.
If you do an AR you will compromise on road slightly for a significant improvement in offroad handling.
If you do a swayloc you will probably see a slight improvement onroad, and a significant one off road.
With getting into heavier swaybar tech, that pretty much sums up swaybars.
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And here I was thinking that we had some opinionated folks on this board. ???
Just for clarification sake, opinions have nothing to with swaybars.
People either know how they work, or they dont.
If you search around on swaybar tech, you can see where that statement comes into play. There are a lot of folks that try to argue facts about swaybars with uninformed opinions.
Dont be fooled by the web wheelers of the world ;)
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Thanks Bill. That feedback is what I'm looking for. Everything that ORO was saying about the Swaylok made sense to me...but I was looking for verification that the theory actually carried through to real life application.
As far as my opinionated comment...I was just shocked that nobody had offered a response - be it an informed one, or just an opinionated web-wheeling response. 8)
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Swaybars are for pussys.
Better? ;D
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Swaybars are for pussys.
I kinda thought that you would say "Avast ye, swaybars be fer lanlubber's who'll be walking the plank!"
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This is not Pirate 4x4, Todd. Sheesh. We don't speak pirate. We speak Canadian and newfie here... and a bit of french...
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This is not Pirate 4x4, Todd. Sheesh. We don't speak pirate.
I know who's gonna be the first to be keel-hauled.
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Oooooh Pirate does that mean there will be Rum? :P
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I know who's gonna be the first to be keel-hauled.
I'll go drag my skid over some rocks to "enhance" the keel haul experience!
Oooooh Pirate does that mean there will be Rum? :P
And winches! Imeanwenches...
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I may or may not be shopping for an eyepatch for the next run...
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Swaybars are for pussys.
Better? ;D
Thats a perfect illustration of the "know no better web opinion".
Typically its one thats easily changed once we winch them back onto their wheels after they've tried to follow a properly tuned swaybar rig.
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I may or may not be shopping for an eyepatch for the next run...
Please don't Todd.
An eyepatch? How about a stuffed parrot while you're at it?
Advice?
You never go full retard :P
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You never go full retard :P
Spoken like a man that's learned this the hard way?
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Now who's the adult talking like a pirate? :D
Glass houses people...
Jeff Bridges playing Rooster Cogburn in "True Grit" is the only one that can pull off the eyepatch
Now back to the Tech portion of this thread. I'm loving the Antirocks on the front of my XJ, and as Bill has pointed out earlier won't not help you with the decision on your coil sprung JK rear. I know that the AR would not be as stiff as the original swaybar but it's a Jeep and not a sportscar.
Are you going to put a AR in the rear as well or just upgrading the front?
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For the time being, probably just the front. Based on what I've read and what Billy's said, I'll probably spend a few extra dollars on the Swaylok.
In the future I'll probably look at a rear antirock....but there are lots of other things on the list that are more pressing.