Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => General Talk => Topic started by: RUBI on March 24, 2006, 12:18:33 PM
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OK....so I'm gonna put some taller tires on RUBI, and I'm looking for some first hand experience with my 2 choices so far.
#1- Interco LTB in a 34 X 10.5 - 16 ( BIAS PLY ) :roll:
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#2 - Interco Truxxs 255 - 85R - 16
Looking for mannerisms in winter / daily driving, general wear and tear, first hand experience. Logging 100 + km /day right now and GAS $$$$$$$ is brutal. Live out in the country , and don't like driving anything other than the JEEP
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What tires do you have now?
LTB's dont last much longer then 30,000kms if street driven, and they are garbage on snowy, wet, or icy roads.
Trxuss probably last a bit longer.
You thought about something light like a BFG AT for street use?
A 35 x 12.50 bfg AT weighs less then either of the tires you listed. Infact, they weigh less then the stock MTR's.
None of them will really do anything for your mileage. But a lightweight, AT tire will have you noticing the difference in pep.
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I just put some Cooper STT's on my TJ. I really like them. I got them from Modern. If you stopped by there, they probably would have some to look at. I don't know what sizes they come in, but that should be easy to find.
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I'm still running the stock MTRs ...with 6" of lift :oops: & a set of 35" S/S Boggers for summer wheeling......I like to do a lot of doggin ( Bustin Coyotes ) during the winter, so A/T don't really cut it for me on the back roads or when I'm cutting up a load of wood for my 2 wood stoves. SOOOOOOOOO any ways I guess I wanna have my cake and eat it too !!!
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Take a poll if you like.
BFG at's are in the top two or three of winter wheeling tires.
The bottom of the pile goes along these lines
Every swamper but an irok. Swampers are the crap of crap in the winter. Their cheap compounds cause them to freeze at relatively warm temps. Pretty much anything below -10 turns a swamper into a hockey puck.
MTR's, ok in deep snow, dont freeze as easy as swampers, but do freeze, and rank right up there with drag slicks on ice
BFG MT's winter slicks
Siped BFG MT's Expensive winter slicks that wear out faster
Those are the tires I've actually run in the winter, and my review on them all.
I went to BFG on the advice of many of the long time jeepers around here like Nathan (spot) and Vince (Vinman).
I was skeptical too.
Now, I'll never run another MT in the winter again.
The only tire I have personally seen out do a bfg at winter wheeling is an Irok. But they are in a class of their own, and get one quater the mileage a BF does. You'll be lucky with 20k on an irok if you street drive it.
Feel free to ask around. Most experienced winter wheelers will have answers that mirror mine, although some diehard MT fans will stick to their guns on siping :roll:
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BFG A/T's ar "DA BOMB" in evrything except deep mud. I've been very impressed with them in snow, ice, gravel and sand. Best all around tire IMHO.
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I've had no issues at all with my Trxus MT's in the snow/ice... They do seem to take a lot to get balanced but I've got no complaints so far about how they handle on/offroad.
I ran a set of 31" BFG AT's last winter and have to say they were great in the snow/ice too.
Fug
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here's a survey if you want more opinions. the brands are a little limited to my liking, but there are enough people.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/index.jsp
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I'm havin a hard time trying to get my truck to spin around with my new trxxus mt's... have been really impressed with them so far (have only had them for couple weeks)
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TrXus MT or STS?
(http://www.intercotire.com/images/TRXUS%20MT%20large.jpg)
(http://www.intercotire.com/images/TRXUS%20AT%20large.jpg)
Both are radial, so will prolly last longer than the LTB. The STS is designed as more of a street/snow/sand tire, and is advertised to get more mileage :)
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http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/reading/mud.htm
another page with some different tires reviewed
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ive been using the MTR'S for 2 years now, as my daily driver, and ive put almost 40,000k on them driving back and forth from calgary to forx creek, grande cashe, etc, and i'd definately buy them again. there is still 90% tread left, they're great in mud, and on snow and ice. just a reminder, mine are 35's, but dont pressure the tires to 35 psi, im running mine at 28 [psi, and they're doing fine.
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I have the Truxus MT 33 - 12.5 on the XJ and i love them in the winter.
I crawled up an Ice cascade on the exploration run we did about a month ago and I couldn't beleive the traction. They do wear out quicker due to its softer compound.
BTW.....The only heep that didn't make it up the ice cascade had MTR.
cheers
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BTW.....The only heep that didn't make it up the ice cascade had MTR.
cheers
Actually the MTR's were only aired down to 20psi, otherwise he would have made it up had he aired down to 15psi. Vinman ran MTR's on the 24hour IndianGraves Run and the MTR's worked very well for him.
As already posted, BFG at's are probably the best tires for winter wheeling.
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Siped BFG MT's Expensive winter slicks that wear out faster
Well Bill, I agree with you on all but one point,...I had a set of siped BFG MT's (255x85/16) which had over 100'000km @ around 60%, I gave them to a friend who is still running these on his RubiLJ,...I thought they worked great (Not IROK great) in the winter, just my opinion though...
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Siped BFG MT's Expensive winter slicks that wear out faster
Well Bill, I agree with you on all but one point,...I had a set of siped BFG MT's (255x85/16) which had over 100'000km @ around 60%, I gave them to a friend who is still running these on his RubiLJ,...I thought they worked great (Not IROK great) in the winter, just my opinion though...
I've run a set on a cj5, and I dont know if its the light weight of the cj or mebbe not running them low enough, but they were insanely slick. They are 1250's on 10's so the 18lbs for fear of loosing a bead might have contributed to it.
Not to sure.
Considering siping is sposed to accerlerate wear, that 100k is dam impressive. BF's are good for that though.
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8) OK.....I'm goin with the 285 75R 16 TRXS MTs. Equivilant to a 33" tall tire.
:shock: :oops: I'm not sure if this is gonna help out with the mileage or not with my OINKER. On average I'm gettin about 380km/ tank, with the low fuel light coming on around 325.
I guess I never intended to use this for an economiser but ...............
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Considering siping is sposed to accerlerate wear, that 100k is dam impressive. BF's are good for that though.
i thought siping may accellerate chunking but will make the overall tread last longer... something about the sipes have a cooling effect on the rubber.... something i heard and am not sure about...
ps you cant go wrong with BFG AT's. work well with everything and last long, and you can resale.
ok deep deep mud, if your into that thing...
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I'm running 33" Trxus with 3.73 gears and I probably average around 380km to a tank myself. Not sure if it gets much better than that from what I've heard.
Fug
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Considering siping is sposed to accerlerate wear, that 100k is dam impressive. BF's are good for that though.
Actually it's quite the opposite, the MT lug wears out faster when they heat up (Hiway etc) and the rubber becomes softer, the larger the lug is the harder it is for it to disipate the heat. When you sipe the lug it allows air into the lug as you are moving and cooling it at the same time. Siping also increases traction on all sufaces including ice, snow, rocks and road...not so much in mud...
I think you are thinking about snow tires, they are siped aswell but are made of a much softer rubber compound which is designed to be used in sub freezing temps..thus using a soft compound, siped winter tire in the summer will accelerate the tires wear.
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i thought siping may accellerate chunking but will make the overall tread last longer...
If the siping is not done correctly you will see chunking, I can't remember what the depth ratio is but siping the lug too deep or having the sipes too far apart/together will make it chunk. If you are going to sipe your tires, take them to a shop which has a siping machine (Kal-tire on YellowHead in Edmonton has one) and ask them what ratio they are going to sipe it at?,...If they can't answer you or don't know, take your tires elsewhere...
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I ran 33" Trxus MT's this winter on my YJ and they worked great, I have no complaints. As far as gas mileage goes, I was getting 350km to a tank with a four banger and 4.11 gears