Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Shearcon79 on April 28, 2011, 09:18:28 PM
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So I am going to be re-building my D44 axles. That also includes new 4.88 gears, E-lockers and all bearings.
My question is where do I purchase the Torque Wrenches necessary?Are these worth buying second hand? Looking for the best value for my money.
I have read online that I will need 2 dial torque wrenches. One being up to 250ft lbs, and the other in inch pounds(not sure what value). Do I need both or just the inch lbs. I already have a click torque wrench.
Sorry if this has been covered but I searched and didn't find anything
And I know that it is painstaking and time consuming but the axles are on the floor and I am quite anal/meticulous/perfectionist
I have looked through this already (http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PDFs/Yukon%20Gear%20Ring%20and%20Pinion%20installation%20instructions.pdf)
And I have this (http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Gear_Setup/)
Thanks in advance.
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i personally dont trust used torque wrenches unless you have them tested for callibration. you will need a one of these, for the pinion nut. its on sale $49.99 http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/Wrenches/SpecialtyWrenches/PRD~0588558P/Mastercraft%252B1%25252B2-in%252BDrive%252BTorque%252BWrench.jsp?locale=en
and then one of these for pinion preload $23.99
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/Wrenches/SpecialtyWrenches/PRD~0588660P/Torque%252BWrench%25252C%252B1%25252B2-in.%252B/CROSSSELL~0588558%20Mastercraft%2B1%252F2-in%2BDrive%2BTorque%2BWrench.jsp?locale=en
i'm not sure what the cap bolts torque to, but you might get away using the 20-250ft/lb torque wrench, but an inch pund wrench would be more accurate at lower ft/lb values here is one for $44.99 on sale http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/Wrenches/SpecialtyWrenches/PRD~0588557P/Mastercraft%252B3%25252B8-in%252BDrive%252BTorque%252BWrench.jsp?locale=en
i love canadien tire
oh and you will need a dial indicator to set up your new gears. make some setup bearing from the old bearings, by slightly honing out the ID so it slips onto the surface.
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i love canadien tire
Found this while looking at your links
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/MeasuringTools/SpecialtyMeasuring/PRD~0588900P/Mastercraft%252BTorque%252BAdaptor/CROSSSELL~0588557%20Mastercraft%2B3%252F8-in%2BDrive%2BTorque%2BWrench.jsp?locale=en#BVRRWidgetID (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/MeasuringTools/SpecialtyMeasuring/PRD~0588900P/Mastercraft%252BTorque%252BAdaptor/CROSSSELL~0588557%20Mastercraft%2B3%252F8-in%2BDrive%2BTorque%2BWrench.jsp?locale=en#BVRRWidgetID)
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The only one you can calibrate is the click type or dial. They don't do much with a beam style t-wrench either they are good or not. There is nothing wrong with a used t-wrench, I use them all the time. Find one that is not all beat up, and go for a good name one if you can find one. The thing with torque wrenches is they are only as accurate as you want them to be. If you take them in yearly for calibration, and never drop them, leave them in your jeep, they will over time go out of cal anyways, but faster if used and not stored properly. To check for a cal (cheep way )use 2 torgue wrenches and see if they match or how much they are out and deveide the difference and either add or substract the amount to the one that you want to use. If you can find a good name one I'd go go for that one over a cheeper one. Usually they are closer tolerence and will be more accurate, right out of the box. LBS/FT or LBS/IN is usually a preference, what do the manules that you are using give for mesurments? get that one, less math for you.
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LBS/FT or LBS/IN is usually a preference, what do the manules that you are using give for mesurments? get that one, less math for you.
do you mean ft/lbs and inch/lbs?
there is quite a difference there!
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So true but if all your books give inch pounds then it's better to buy inch pound then foot pounds, and vise versa less math to do and make a mistake. I've read inch pounds and set a foot pound wrench to it and broke some bolts, it happens. You get mixed up and grab the wrong wrench and snap. So if all the values are in foot pounds get a foot pound wrench
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you need both on a gear setup.
unless you can measure 6 in/lbs with a foot lbs torque wrench..........
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0.49 Foot pounds you win this round John.
But if it was 16 inch pounds I would call it one foot pound.
Dingman
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only you are capable enough to measure .49 ft/lbs Dingman ;)
i can't measure that close after 6 beers unless they were coors light
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Seeing how I'm built like a little girl the most I can go is one foot pound.
Dingman
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I have often bought used tools that are mastercraft simply because if they break or don't work properly I simply take it to Cantire and they replace it with the best equivelant that is currently available.
for example I bought a torque wrench a couple years ago from a used tool shop on the corner of 17ave and 52nd street for $20 bucks, simply because it was in rough shape and was a mastercraft. I drove to the nearest cantire and ended up with a brand new one worth $100.
Mastercraft might not be the greatest quality but I enjoy being able to exchange them when they break.
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I use a 1/2" drive. ft/lbs wrench good 30-300 ft/lbs for the ring gear, pinion and cap bolts, regular "click" style. Home depot, Husky brand. Bought it like 10years ago for $80, been good so far.
For pinion rotating torque I use a 1/4 drive deflecting beam style torque wrench, good for 0-50 inch/lbs. It a bit smaller that a dial style wrech so its good when under a vehicle with the axle still installed. I have to use a 1/4 to 3/8s and 3/8 to 1/2 adapters to get the 1/4 drive torque wrench onto the 1/2" socket.
I looked all over Calgary and couldn't find one like it so I ordered it off of ebay. Its similar to this one:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/KD-Inch-Lb-Torque-Wrench-1-4-Dr-0-60-in-lbs-/250231886404?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a42fb9244
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Thanks for the info guys. Looks like I only need to get the in/lbs wrench.
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FYI there is one on sale next week too
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y100/KnoxSteve/89d9c3f1.jpg)