Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: skyhy on October 13, 2011, 08:54:46 AM
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Okay, so I am super frustrated, I got my lift in from Chanda yesterday and decided to throw it in the jeep last night. Everything was going smoothly until I tried to take the wheels off (that is to say I unpacked everything and arranged it and whatnot) Now I'm no stranger to stuck lug nuts but the one I ended up with turned out to be hella stuck. It took myself and three other guys an hour and a half to get absolutely nowhere with it. We tried: Six foot breaker bar, nutcracker, wd40, heating it with a torch then using a breaker bar, putting a 10 foot conduit on the end of said breaker bar, impact wrench and screaming at it. Eventually after all of our options were seemingly exhausted we decided to try to just split the nut as it was beyond saving and rounded to oblivion. unfortunately the lug would not break off and simply bent and folded out. So now my friends, I am at a loss. I'm thinking I'm going to have to drill the sucker out but I would rather do anything than spend 2 hours drilling the damn thing and dulling a nice set of carbide bits, so do you guys have have any suggestions?
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Could try hammering on a 11/16 socket or even a 5/8 if its that badly rounded. Still doesnt help turning it off though.
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There is a set of sockets at crappy tire on sale this week that might help. I don't know how strong they are bit it might be worth looking into.
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We tried cutting the bolt off so conventional sockets simply won't work anymore as it is simply too wrecked. (it's folded out like a flower)
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torch sounds like your only option now.
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Cut the back of the stud and hammer it out through the front
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Cut the back of the stud and hammer it out through the front
How do I get the plate off the back of the disk so I can get to the studs when I can't remove the wheel?
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How do I get the plate off the back of the disk so I can get to the studs when I can't remove the wheel?
You'll never get to the back of the stud enough to cut it since it recessed in the 'hat"of the rotor.
Weld a larger nut over whats left of the existing nut/stud. Make sure to get a really good weld on it and if it doesn't loosen (the heat from welding should help it), tighten it until the stud breaks.
Good luck
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The stud is pretty recessed into the wheel, I don't think I'll be able to weld anything on to it
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plasma the whole thing off.
buy new tires/rims with lift.
buy new hub as well.
continue to swear at jeep.
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plasma the whole thing off.
buy new tires/rims with lift.
buy new hub as well.
continue to swear at jeep.
It would almost be easier to replace the whole axle than to drill the studs out. anyone have a spare D35 laying around with an extra wheel? :P
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yup! ;)
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It would almost be easier to replace the whole axle than to drill the studs out. anyone have a spare D35 laying around with an extra wheel? :P
I was thinking front axle, you probably could pull the axle from the housing and get in there with a small angle grinder and cut the inside of the stud and push it through.
Vince
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If you have a diff with c clips then just take the cover plate of remove c clip and whole tire and axle come of. Then grind , plasma or torch the back off the stud. Saving rim and axle.
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If you have a diff with c clips then just take the cover plate of remove c clip and whole tire and axle come of. Then grind , plasma or torch the back off the stud. Saving rim and axle.
rear dis brakes................
if you can get the caliper off from behind it may be possible.........
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Die grinder with a good carbide bit or air hammer it to death with a good quality air hammer.
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Try turning left..............
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I had this happen up front on my yj.
We ended up using a cold chisel(air chisel would work too) to take off as much of the lug off as possible then used a center punch and a big sledge to knock the stud back. came off in a few hits once all the lug was cleared off
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tighten the crap out of the rest of the lugs.
Get a good set of bits
center punch the remaining part of the nut and start drilling
drill until get half an inch or more into the stud
then stick a thick punch into the hole and try to snap the stud
if that hasn't worked drill some more then drive the stud in
it should break and free the wheel.
you'll probably have to drill it out to atleast 7/16 so make sure you get a good centered start on it
Have FUN
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Try turning left..............
His left, my left or your left?
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Head up hwy 2 to edmonton till the wheel falls off.
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If you're going to apply heat anywhere near that rim take the tire off first or you will kill someone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUVzgCHHuA
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If you're going to apply heat anywhere near that rim take the tire off first or you will kill someone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUVzgCHHuA
Or just take the valve stem out so it can't pressurize.
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If you're going to apply heat anywhere near that rim take the tire off first or you will kill someone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBUVzgCHHuA
Wow, that's scary!
I'm probably going to drill it out this weekend, I'l let you know how it goes.
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Seen the other videos on where the valve stem was removed and the tire unseated and it still blew up. Wow is all I can say.
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Or just take the valve stem out so it can't pressurize.
Watch the video, they had a fatality where they had removed the valve stem and one where they had unseated the bead. In both cases this reaction builds pressure so quickly that it will still blow the tire (hole for valve stem can't vent fast enough and the second one it built pressure fast enough to reseat the bead)!
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just drill it out. centre punch it then start small and drill right through using plenty of lube. Step up the size 4 or 5 times till till theres almost no stud left. then just snap it off with the wheel. Did it a couple weeks ago and took about 10 minutes.
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Same thing happened to me and tried everything you did first then got this roundaround nuts or something in princess auto and worked great, oh soaked with pb blaster overnight first. You can borrow them if you like, let me know.
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This is why I won't let any shop install rims on my rigs. It seems like at least half of them just use an impact gun and no torque wrench. I have had wheels massively overtightened at shops ranging from a Ford Dealer to Crappy Tire and all points in between. One time I had tires put on a work van@ crappy tire and then got a flat a few weeks later. The truck had 5 strong guys and several boxes of tools in it yet they were unable to remove the flat. Let's just say CT paid for the tow and I put on my own rims now. Even if you can get them off, the studs are stretched and damaged from this.