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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Rubi03 jef on December 06, 2011, 02:14:23 AM

Title: tie rod ends
Post by: Rubi03 jef on December 06, 2011, 02:14:23 AM

OK   so my question is for all the bigger jeeps

what are you all running for tie rod ends

actual tie rod ends
hiems
something else

reason i ask is because i came across some large tie rod ends and I'm wondering if i should use them instead of the hiems that i originally planned to use

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: FiEND on December 06, 2011, 02:18:26 AM

im using big tie rod ends as my knuckles are from a ford F150 and they are working great

but since i need to move my tie rod up i either have to drill and ream the knuckles or just drill and use a heim (which is what I want to do)

the new joints that evolution is making might work for this, i haven't looked closely at them as im not doing this till spring earliest.

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: cLAY on December 06, 2011, 08:34:52 AM

Chevy 1ton tres. Not getting g very good life from them.  Thinking of getting emf tres.

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: Bnine on December 06, 2011, 08:40:30 AM

No one here is running tires your size jeff. Of myself, Kevin, Joey, and eric, we all run heims in various configurations. Tire sizes are 38, 43, 42, and 44.

This is the wrong place to ask this question. Most guys here arent running anything more then a 35" tire with a few exceptions.

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: heep-a-lop on December 06, 2011, 09:41:29 AM

see our new tre's are more meant for bolt on application where u want to use xisting tapers.......... basically a heim with a grade 8 bolt through it is a tre without any taper....

we have 1 ton chev tre's that are a direct replacement....

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: Rubi03 jef on December 06, 2011, 10:21:34 AM

i know the hiems seems to be the best best and i like the simple design but just what i have heard they arnt made for long turm use so does that mean every 60 months im replacing them ..

ill post a picture of the tie rod ends i got m y hands on  

these ones average 250,000 km under tractor trailers that haul 60 - 80 thousand lbs 
since i was able to get my hands on them it was just an idea to use them

Billy

 i would like your thoughts as you do have lots of expierence with hiems   
what i have heard and read is since the bolt holding the hiem isnt tappered like a tie rod end it allows it to move ever so little and over time wears out the knuckle

is that caused by me using a ball joint style instead of king pin with high steer arms
maybe the knuckle is a weak cast 
just a few people not tightening there bolts down good

input please


(http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt43/TJRubicon04/the%20life%20of%2004%20rubicon/tierodend.jpg)

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: vantagetes on December 06, 2011, 11:40:28 AM

I don't think you're allowed to run hiems for steering on road, something about because there's no taper you cannot adjust it when you start to get play. Not sure how true that is, I just remember someone mentioning that during a conversation about steering.

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: Rubi03 jef on December 06, 2011, 01:06:21 PM

I've hears the same things.  Thats why I'm asking questions

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: heep-a-lop on December 15, 2011, 07:51:51 AM

okay i believe the highway safety act requires a tapered pin on your steering... but dont quote me on that...

i know heims are used in desert racing all the time..

but if u are wanting a easy solution... what d60 are u running? we have tre's for a the chev taperhttp://stores.evojoints.com/-strse-8/Evolution-Chevy-Taper-Tie/Detail.bok?ncat=9 (http://stores.evojoints.com/-strse-8/Evolution-Chevy-Taper-Tie/Detail.bok?ncat=9)

and can really do them to what ever taper just need a week or so ( to get them nitrided)

Title: Re: tie rod ends
Post by: Rubi03 jef on December 15, 2011, 09:35:54 AM

I have a 95 ford Dana 60

I'll look into the laws