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Title: open trail rides?
Post by: bradley on February 25, 2012, 08:47:03 AM: can anyone on the website post up a trail ride or do u have to be a cja member?
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Jrama on February 25, 2012, 08:51:33 AM: Anyone can post a trail ride, that said be mindful of who you wheel with. Tread lightly and be safe
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: jeepjones on February 27, 2012, 02:08:51 PM: Just wheel, period. Who cares who your with.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Jrama on February 27, 2012, 03:49:36 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on February 27, 2012, 02:08:51 PM
Just wheel, period. Who cares who your with.

True facts... its your call, your rig and your safety. I'd just hate to be with a group of guys who won't drag your arse out of the bush if something breaks, or who don't know a thing about recovery and they either wreck your equipment or you get clevis through your skull.

Who cares right...
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: SwampSinger on February 27, 2012, 04:06:08 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on February 27, 2012, 02:08:51 PM
Just wheel, period. Who cares who your with.

I do ... I won't wheel with frickin' morons or people that drink and drive!
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: SwampSinger on February 27, 2012, 04:32:02 PM: Bradley...most people on this site are ok.... most.

Just use common sense and don't succumb to pure pressure. If it doesn't feel right; it's usually not.

Check out the open runs section. There's usually people every weekend going out to the mountains.

You'll start seeing the usual culprit always ready to go...

We also have meetings pretty much every 3rd Wednesday of every month. You'll meet members and non members there. Usually people are nice and don't mind new folks tagging along depending what they will do on their trail ride.

Look in the "event" section for details.

I hope that helps.

Cheers,
Dom
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: bradley on February 27, 2012, 06:44:42 PM: ya i try to b careful about who i wheel with but sometime u just gotta take a risk and go out with some new people, its a nice change of pace to go wheelin with people with different experience levels and who like different things, but thanks for the advice guys hope to see you all on the trails some day soon.

keep the rubber side down
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: w squared on February 27, 2012, 06:52:19 PM: Nothing wrong with going out with new folks - I've met some great folks doing exactly that.

All we ask is that people understand - just because someone posts up an informal run on this site does not make it a sanctioned CJA run. Use your own judgement and common sense while you're out there.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: jeepjones on February 28, 2012, 12:59:01 PM: Stop getting your panties all in a bunch, do you guys even remember when wheeling was "FUN"?
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Rubi03 jef on February 28, 2012, 01:02:48 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on February 28, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
Stop getting your panties all in a bunch, do you guys even remember when wheeling was "FUN"?

i do

befor it met .....

lol
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: SwampSinger on February 28, 2012, 03:05:27 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on February 28, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
Stop getting your panties all in a bunch, do you guys even remember when wheeling was "FUN"?
I thought you like seeing my panties in a bunch :D... I still have lots of fun wheeling but I shake my head when I stop to help folks and I notice they are all messed up on some kind of pills or booze.

Should I help them out so they can continute thier D&D and may be injure someone or should leave them there for a while so they think about it?

You've been around for a while... remember how beautiful it was wheeling in Indian Grave... this is all gone because of irresposable teanagers and morons. I remenber that!

That ...I don't like ...but it's still out there.

That's all have have to say
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: SwampSinger on February 28, 2012, 03:06:03 PM: Bradley.. hope to shake you paw on the trail sometime!
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: fug on February 28, 2012, 03:21:40 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on February 28, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
Stop getting your panties all in a bunch, do you guys even remember when wheeling was "FUN"?

Just wondering what you mean by when it was fun?

I still enjoy wheeling when I get a chance to get out there... I do wish we had more trails for sure... and I think it was a ton more fun when there was more trails out there to run.

I do agree with SwampSinger tho, there are some situations I wouldn't feel comfortable being a part of (guys who are hammered or seem intent on doing things that put the people they are with in danger). I guess at the end of the day you just play it by ear and go with your instincts. You can meet alot of awesome people out on the trails no point in letting a few ruin that.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: JackstandJohnny on February 28, 2012, 03:47:40 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on February 27, 2012, 02:08:51 PM
Just wheel, period. Who cares who your with.

simple answer to this. every time, and i mean, EVERY time, i've met up with a bunch of randoms to go 'wheeling' 80% of the time we didn't get 20 minutes away from the Mclean store because someone was broken, or stuck, or broken or stuck. this is why i actually joined CJA. to meet responsible people to wheel with.

now, most of the time (u know, back when i wheeled) when i go with my buddies or the fine folks in the Jeep club, we've had smooth, fun runs. sometimes theres breakage, and when there is, everyone is willing to help. that is a nice feeling, and I myself have no problem helping others on the trail i'm with too.

so now i like to know who i'm wheelin with. club members and friends. that way at least when someone does something stupid or breaks, i know most of the people around and we can help out or shoot the breeze and wait our turn.

that to me makes the day much better than meeting up with some randoms and hoping we get out of mclean by 3 am......
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Jrama on February 28, 2012, 04:55:54 PM: I do a lot of completely open runs with all sorts of people or ummm "randoms" and I rarely run into problems. Matter of fact I usually see the same guys now on just about every open run I go on, I see these guys out wheelin regularly tons more than club members ;D.

I will agree with Jones in that the best way to get into it is to just go and wheel and learn. Figure out what you like and what you don't. It goes without saying common sense applies. Lots of great people on this site I wouldn't hesitate to go wheelin with just about any regular-ish user of this forum.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: bradley on February 28, 2012, 07:21:07 PM: i usually never hesitate to go wheeling with someone new, thats where the best experiences come from, sometimes u look back on the day and shake your head and sometimes u got a memory thats worth holding onto, but its usually just a really good time, thats why i signed up here at cja for the opportunity to meet new people and do some wheeling. Sure sounds like everyone signed up here has the right idea hope to see u all out on the trail sometime soon
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: jeepjones on February 29, 2012, 12:02:36 PM: I don't mind leaving mclean creek/Waiparous at 3am I like wheeling at night. Getting stuck, broken,lost, is all part of the fun in my mind. I figure it's like riding a motorcycle or skydiving, if it wasn't a little bit dangerous we wouldn't do it. If you want to take a scenic, safe ride in the mountains or country side stick to the highway, if you want some excitement and don't mind staring death in the face a few times a year then go wheeling.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Hi Lo Silver on February 29, 2012, 08:14:45 PM: Just about enough drama in there to justify a reality show on four wheeling. ;D
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: w squared on February 29, 2012, 09:01:16 PM: Quote from: Hi Lo Silver on February 29, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
Just about enough drama in there to justify a reality show on four wheeling. ;D

Are you willing to host, Gun? You can tell people that they've been "voted off the trail ride" and then smash out the headlight that represents their presence with a snatch block.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Rubi03 jef on February 29, 2012, 10:21:07 PM: ive pulled people and full size trucks out with my little 1 inch trailer hitch and never had anythign break . ive winch at least 40 trucks out and never put anything over my cable

ive wheeled for 3 years with no spare tire ive gone with complete stranger that have either lead me into some crap trails and some really cool stuff

if everyone is worried about something bad happening then you shouldnt ever leave your house again . what we do in the trails is still safer then walking down any calgary street with the F&$k tards that live here
how people get licenses these days is beyound me

as for wheeling with new people im always willing to roll out with them and also im always willing to invite that person that decided to go out alone that weekend .. so you cant tell this guy never go with people he doesnt know cuz guess what those people could be you CJA guys

my point is just get out there and have fun and if u dont like the group your with roll out
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 01, 2012, 11:09:51 AM: i have never put restrictions on people i wheel with, but restrictions on rigs i wheel with is a different story.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Rubi03 jef on March 01, 2012, 11:24:11 AM: There are bi passes for everything in Alberta. So I would put money on a civic making it down any trail
Sticking to bi passes

So if someone with a xj on 28" tires wants to come out no problem know that you will not be able to fallow my line

Education is key. Of the owner wants to try who am I to stop it's a free world
No tow points well hook to the diff Not my problem if ur diff is pulled from ur truck
No spare. Well have fun driving out on ur rim
No food well maybe the person is anerexic

I bring what I want and need I do recommend to others but I don't loose sleep if someone breaks there rig
Fix what I can with what they have and done.. can't fix it then drag it to the road

Cja does how many truck/ car removals a year u know how fun it is to drag a burnt price of crap to the road
Imagine how fun it is to drag someone daily driver to the road
And with any luck they will regret there choice to go in unprepared and will never be seen in the trails again

In the end I know what I bring, and what I wheel and I know my jeep is coming out and home
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 01, 2012, 11:45:05 AM: Quote from: Rubi03 jef on March 01, 2012, 11:24:11 AM
There are bi passes for everything in Alberta. So I would put money on a civic making it down any trail
Sticking to bi passes

So if someone with a xj on 28" tires wants to come out no problem know that you will not be able to fallow my line

Education is key. Of the owner wants to try who am I to stop it's a free world
No tow points well hook to the diff Not my problem if ur diff is pulled from ur truck
No spare. Well have fun driving out on ur rim
No food well maybe the person is anerexic

I bring what I want and need I do recommend to others but I don't loose sleep if someone breaks there rig
Fix what I can with what they have and done.. can't fix it then drag it to the road

Cja does how many truck/ car removals a year u know how fun it is to drag a burnt price of crap to the road
Imagine how fun it is to drag someone daily driver to the road
And with any luck they will regret there choice to go in unprepared and will never be seen in the trails again

In the end I know what I bring, and what I wheel and I know my jeep is coming out and home

Jeff, i guarantee you that you have missed out on some truly epic trails in Alberta. There were no bypasses on my Stupid Steep Sunday run i did a few years back and that was at Maclean. Killer cutline will separate the men from boys. Pretty Rock the hard way in will disallow any stock 4x4. i can think of many cutlines i have led that are not going to allow any rig that is not locked succeed. Never mind the pucker factor on 'doable' lines.
At Waiporous at the first staging area (the one with atv ramps) is a cutline. Do not take the bypass and go all the way up. Not many will even try it. At night. its even better. Just an example of the truly insane stuff out there.

i have one rule i never bend on...air down. If 'group friendly setting', 15psi min. If invite only, 10psi min.

no towhooks front and rear? see ya.
You ever been with someone stuck in a mud/water hole 1/2 way up the doors and had them attatch a strap to their axle? How did that work out for ya?

not boasting but wheelin for me was the tuffer, the better. Knowing that 'not making' a cutline could result in catastrophe was my adrenalin junkie drug. On those runs, it was invite only.

FWS took us to some incredible trails South of here. They only had a towhook rule. Airing down was seldom done. Stock rigs of any type were welcome. i commend them for that and feel blessed to be a part of the hidden tours they led. But, no surprise my pet peeve was bald tires and fully aired vehicles. LONG days would have been much shorter but, i will always be grateful to the trails they introduced me to and the great folks i met, camped and wheeled with. :)

They still wheel, i do not :-[ (rarely i have). Even though i have a very capable jeep, i no longer have the 'beans' to try hardcore trails. Racing a dirtbike in the mountains softened me.

Moab is a whole different story. ;)
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: morerpmfred on March 01, 2012, 12:48:03 PM: I have been up pretty rock in a stock xj on a boxing day run. 28 inch all terrains and a factory limeted slip. Drove up the steep side. Oh and the xj was red. Driver expierance is everything. The tire chains helped.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Rubi03 jef on March 01, 2012, 01:04:21 PM: What was sAying was I can't stop anyone from trying anything

I can't tell them it's a bad idea. But it's there choice if they breAk roll or die not my problem

As for people stuck in mud ya pulled a grand Cherokee that was half way up the door in mud n told the onder u want of out I'll get u out but u will have damage he said no problem I put the tow rope through the back windows and attached my winch and pulled both rear doors bent in. Again not my problem. I gave him the warning he said give. He was out

As for trails and being difficult I agree so people need to e told not to try something

I've yet to hit some of the trails u have mentions or maybe I have and just don't know the names
I've had people get out of my rig cuz they don't feel comfortable and I just climb it with easy
I was told no one climbs widow maker and yes 2 summers ago I did

So even I don't listen sometimes
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 01, 2012, 01:39:47 PM: Quote from: morerpmfred on March 01, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
I have been up pretty rock in a stock xj on a boxing day run. 28 inch all terrains and a factory limeted slip. Drove up the steep side. Oh and the xj was red. Driver expierance is everything. The tire chains helped.
yes, driver experience is everything. Chains also helped, obviously. Body damage is ensured with stock vehicles.
But, there are many other trails that a stocker is not doing. Just like Moab, there are trails that size matters.
So, maybe Pretty Rock is not the best example.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 01, 2012, 01:43:26 PM: Quote from: Rubi03 jef on March 01, 2012, 01:04:21 PM
What was sAying was I can't stop anyone from trying anything

I can't tell them it's a bad idea. But it's there choice if they breAk roll or die not my problem

As for people stuck in mud ya pulled a grand Cherokee that was half way up the door in mud n told the onder u want of out I'll get u out but u will have damage he said no problem I put the tow rope through the back windows and attached my winch and pulled both rear doors bent in. Again not my problem. I gave him the warning he said give. He was out

As for trails and being difficult I agree so people need to e told not to try something

I've yet to hit some of the trails u have mentions or maybe I have and just don't know the names
I've had people get out of my rig cuz they don't feel comfortable and I just climb it with easy
I was told no one climbs widow maker and yes 2 summers ago I did

So even I don't listen sometimes
:laughing: i guess you got a point there.
For me, its about the experience. The more we stop to drag a stocker, pull a stocker, waste time hooking up a no tow hook vehicle, waste time to pull a ballon tired vehicle diminishes the experience. i prefer a 5 hour tour with well prepared rigs vs a 12 hour tour with lesser prepared. But, as i said i don't care who the person is. If they don't tread lightly, i will confront.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Hi Lo Silver on March 01, 2012, 07:12:47 PM: I have to dispute the airing down comment on our (FWS) runs Spinalguy. Each run we have ever done there has always been people air down. Grant it not everyone, but we just don't care if you don't want to. Sometimes people learn by example and not by rules. On easier trails....do you realize how often those with less modified rigs and air in thier tires could just blast right through a trail but they choose to sit and wait for those that wish to challenge obstacles along the way without saying all that much about time wasted. Remember that goes both ways sometimes.

The tougher trails were also stipulated for more equipment.

I have to agree to a point with jeepjones....just go out and wheel but I do have to say personally I'd rather wheel with people I know and I certainly will pull away from a group that's drinking or drugs. Sometimes wheeling alone isn't all that bad in that case.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 01, 2012, 07:54:35 PM: Gun, i could have worded that better or actually just left out the 'seldom'. The majority of a group aired down.
Because FWS did not have a rule for it, invariably there were a few that did not air down. And thanks for reminding me about my other pet peeve :P
You haven't been on one of my runs gun ;), i have a pep talk about stay the course because the trail itself will present many challenges. No need to be doing the 'extra credits' along the way.
i had a few fantastic years with FWS. No disrespect intended.

As with every club, no drinking/drugging in effect. :) i should have stated that but i figured it was just a given.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Rubi03 jef on March 01, 2012, 09:35:30 PM: i know what your saying its a pain in the arse to have to drag some douche around because he or she didnt listen and decided to come out anyways not prepared

as for airing down i air down always summer or winter it doesnt matter

and when i first started wheeling i didnt know anyone .. and by getting out and meeting people i didnt know :) i learnt stuff and tricks and all that stuff
but i didnt know anyone from CJA i got picked up by a group and they were more then welcoming to have me join back then i had a tow rope and thats all . no jack no rear tow hook no winch no shovle no extra parts but once i got out and saw how prepared people were thats when i myself decided i would get my jeep ready
i never leave home without my chain saw .. 2 extra chains and a full jerry can of fuel and oil . thats the first thing to go in the jeep amount alot of other stuff

but we all started at one point on skiny bald tires and un prepared and with expeirence come knowledge

so i just think people should run what they got you never know they might hate bouncing around in a jeep all day long and never go out again

all this is just built up frustration that my jeep is not done yet
;D ;D
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: AV.NINE on March 01, 2012, 09:45:01 PM: I laugh when people air down in wiaprous. I had my tow rig through that trail on our xmas tree run. Fairly bald tires. Got stuck twice but my truck weighs a ton as well. I broke through the ice.

65 psi or bust.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: jeepjones on March 02, 2012, 04:36:27 AM: I find it too rough a ride if I don't air down. :P
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Joel on March 02, 2012, 06:16:08 AM: Quote from: Hi Lo Silver on February 29, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
Just about enough drama in there to justify a reality show on four wheeling. ;D

;D Never mind the reality show. Chyrsler could use this $hit on infomercial's!

Buy a Jeep.....Go Wheeling.........Guranteed to add 3inch's to your Weiner......10inches in just 5 years......act fast.....only few remaining JK's left....

;) ;D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: hornblower on March 02, 2012, 08:22:49 AM: To the OP. I think the point everyone here wants to make is that strangers=danger.

I don't have lockers or chains or even much wheelin experience but somehow I manage to go out (by myself most times) and have a blast. Just do it and don't take something as fun as this hobby and make it all about rules and specs. If I don't think my rig will make it up or over something I give it a try and learn what it's capable of.

I understand that when the CJA sanctions a run that there are going to be requirements and such however most times they are not anything to strict and leave it open to almost anyone.

Then again what do i know about wheelin......I drive a JK with painted fenders.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: jeepjones on March 02, 2012, 12:44:16 PM: Quote from: hornblower on March 02, 2012, 08:22:49 AM
To the OP. I think the point everyone here wants to make is that strangers=danger.

I don't have lockers or chains or even much wheelin experience but somehow I manage to go out (by myself most times) and have a blast. Just do it and don't take something as fun as this hobby and make it all about rules and specs. If I don't think my rig will make it up or over something I give it a try and learn what it's capable of.

I understand that when the CJA sanctions a run that there are going to be requirements and such however most times they are not anything to strict and leave it open to almost anyone.

Then again what do i know about wheelin......I drive a JK with painted fenders.
Strangers = Danger, WTF? Are you guys in kindergarten? Next thing you know you'll be holding onto a rope and trying to find someone for the "buddy system" LOL
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Vinman on March 02, 2012, 12:51:40 PM: Quote from: jeepjones on March 02, 2012, 12:44:16 PM
Strangers = Danger, WTF? Are you guys in kindergarten? Next thing you know you'll be holding onto a rope and trying to find someone for the "buddy system" LOL

Maybe we can use tow straps to connect all the Jeeps together so nobody gets lost or left behind.

Then, if a wheeler from another group approachs one of us, we can all shout "Stranger Danger, Stranger Danger, Stranger Danger" until that person leaves us alone.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: WhiteOut on March 02, 2012, 01:05:30 PM: Remember, even if you know them, don't be alone in a garage with another person. Always have a chaperone!

Stranger danger!
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: hornblower on March 02, 2012, 03:49:23 PM: I see my sarcasm was lost there.

That's what my dry sense of humor will get me.
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: euroboxxer on March 02, 2012, 11:40:49 PM: Hey everyone. Just wanted to say Hi, my name is Rob and I am new to this site along with owning a Jeep. I cant wait to take it out with a group and have some fun in Waiparous but since I am new to this and most likely a newbie at wheeling, I was hoping I could get some input on what is required or recommended to bring on a trail run and also what is a good idea to bring that is not necessarily required.

Thanks
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: Vinman on March 03, 2012, 08:56:35 AM: Quote from: euroboxxer on March 02, 2012, 11:40:49 PM
, I was hoping I could get some input on what is required or recommended to bring on a trail run and also what is a good idea to bring that is not necessarily required.

Thanks

A tow strap and a good attitude.

Welcome to the forum.

Vince
Title: Re: open trail rides?
Post by: fug on March 05, 2012, 01:05:39 PM: I'm going to shut this down before it gets out of hand. Lets be a bit more PC in the open forums shall we (Yeah I know I'm an admin Nazi ;) ).