Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Mud on March 26, 2012, 06:04:19 PM
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Step 1: curse all things sacred.
Step 2: ratchet strap the track bar to the axle to hold it in place.
Step 3: pull out some winch line and wrap it around the track bar to prevent horizontal movement.
Step 4: tighten the winch cable and you'll be death wobble free!
Step 5: thank Colin and Jamal for their patience. ;D
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LOL NICE!
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Frame side joint failed out in Waiparous, did this and got back to Calgary.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd316/fraserbrown1986/DSCF3689.jpg)
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It turns out that only a ratchet strap to hold the bracket to the axle and you'll get death wobble at anything faster than 20 km/h. Winch line and you're good to 80. I'm assuming the missing front shock didn't help the matter.
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You guys are running the wrong stuff if you are losing track bars on the trail. Aside from sloppy joint replacement, and bushing maintenance, a trackbar should never have an issue with coming apart.
Fraser your problem is obvious and that is you are running rubicon express, which like the rest of their crap they are notorious for having junk track bars.
Mud, I dont know what you are running, but if you put up some clear pics of your TB and the attachment points we can probably come up with some simple fixes that will permantly eliminate the chance of that happening again.
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I think my main issue was exceeding the lift specs for that bar, that and not greasing it. Swapped it out for a BDS that actually fits and no issues. That and the Currie steering make an insane difference
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The track bar bracket just came "unwelded". ;)
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I can't tell for sure in that pic, but it kinda looks like you had a bolt-on track bar bracket on the axle side. If that's the case, those bolt-on brackets can increase the amount of leverage that the track bar has for applying force to the stock track bar mount. That may account for the stock mount failing.
Most guys that have gone to a quality adjustable track bar have not had issues with the stock track bar mount. If your suspension geometry does require a bracket to raise the point where your track bar connects to your axle, you are probably better off going with a beefy bracket that actually welds onto the axle (and probably flipping your drag link at the same time to keep it roughly parallel with your track bar).
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"Lift specs" and track bars have nothing what so ever to do with component integrity. Its about adjustability.
They give you the lift range that the bar can be adjusted to and still keep the axle centered.
It has no effect on the bar one way or the other in regards to stress, durability , or longevity.
So to be clear, it fell apart because it was a peice of crap. It had nothing to do with your installed application, as much as RE may like you to think that.
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I can't tell for sure in that pic, but it kinda looks like you had a bolt-on track bar bracket on the axle side. If that's the case, those bolt-on brackets can increase the amount of leverage that the track bar has for applying force to the stock track bar mount. That may account for the stock mount failing.
Most guys that have gone to a quality adjustable track bar have not had issues with the stock track bar mount. If your suspension geometry does require a bracket to raise the point where your track bar connects to your axle, you are probably better off going with a beefy bracket that actually welds onto the axle (and probably flipping your drag link at the same time to keep it roughly parallel with your track bar).
Exactly !!!
Couldnt agree more.
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Hey thanks for the advice guys!
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All track bars suck until you install EMF Heims.
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Pipe down troll. You wouldnt know a good track bar or an emf heim if someone beat you in the side of the head with it.
Go back to chit chat
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The track bar mount was welded in place and broke off. It is a 5.5" mid arm lift so its mounted higher
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Must have done a drop pitman with the lift. Lift height doesnt determine if you need to change track bar mounting locations or not. Only the relationship to the draglink matters.
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Only the relationship to the draglink matters.
I learned about that one first-hand. Raised track bar bracket on the axle truss + drag link not yet flipped = BAD bump steer.