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Title: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Bnine on May 07, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
Basic roll cage done on a CJ5 last week. I dont post much of what I do here, but I thought the board has been lacking of much tech lately. So here's my small contribution.

This a mild cage for a restored CJ5. Not intended for hardcore multiple use, although it is tied into the frame at the A pillar. I had to make the overheads as high as possible due to the owner being a really big guy. I did a cage for this jeep before it was restored about 7 years ago, but the owner kept ringing his head off the overheads.

Personally I didnt see the problem when I built the first version..........haha

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This is an old fashion fast back style. Not meant for rear passengers. The main pillars are done with 1.75" 120 wall and the smaller intersecting stuff is 1.5" 120 wall.

I didnt do picks of the tie ins, but they use a leaf bushing at the frame and .5" conveyor belt under the body to provide decent isolation.

The ending is all done using various dies on a tube shark bench style bender.

http://www.tubeshark.com/index.php/products/equipment/tubeshark-bender-with-pneumatic-pump-bench-mount/

For the notching I use a pro tools notcher which you can see here.

http://www.pro-tools.com/model-emn-510-end-mill-notcher.aspx
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: BUKI on May 07, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
That's one sexy looking rig. Cage and all
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Bnine on May 08, 2013, 10:55:39 AM
Thats a resto thats been ongoing for about 4 years now.

Replacement tub from the philippines
golen stroker,
parts mike T18
 fully modded d300
 detroit rear, trutrac front
 painless wiring harness,
howel injection
 toyos on walker beadlocks
 long travel bilstein 7000 series short bodies
custom Alcan springs, genrite stretch tank
 front shackle reversale with 2 inch stretch
rear custom located spring mounts with 4" stretch
Custom front and rear bumpers


List goes on, but thats the basics.
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Joel on May 08, 2013, 11:48:24 AM
That looks awesome.  Quit the transformation from when it was originally purchased from crazydave.
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: snodawg on May 08, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
Nice job! I have been contemplating a full cage for my CJ-7...
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Bnine on May 09, 2013, 08:27:17 AM
Definately an idea if you are going to wheel.

And depending on how you set it up, and can stiffen up the frame a bit. Which is good for CJ's since they are prone to having frame integrity issues.
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Knox on May 10, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
hey Billy, did you go through the tub to the frame on the initial set up or do the plate/sandwich deal with bolts?
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: 95XJeh on May 14, 2013, 07:39:39 PM
Nice welds! Looks great!

I want a cage my 2door Xj SO BAD just don't have the means!
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Bnine on May 15, 2013, 07:53:47 AM
Did the plate sandwich and a pinned section on the a pillar to make it easily removable for painting.
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: bullitt85 on September 07, 2013, 10:31:20 PM
Bnine, bringing this old topic back to life, I am not sure who your with but I have been searching for roll cage tech, I have a feeling I may need it soon, but I still want to keep the stock top accessories useable.
can these be built to fit under a hard top?
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: new2jeepguy on September 08, 2013, 05:40:06 PM
I.m finally getting a jd squared model 32 hydraulic bender after playing around for 2 yrs thinking about it.    To help pay for it I.m thinking of doing bends for  others.     Anyone out there know how to use this thing?     I,m gonna  use some old tubing I have laying around for practice , when I get good      I.ll do bends for others, but if anyone out there has experience with this bender  call me.   To start I.m going to get the 1-3/4        5.5 radius   180 degree     The bender can do up to 2 inch  x .250 wall DOM too.    Yeah   baby             Mike 403 932 4659
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Spinalguy on September 08, 2013, 07:17:18 PM
Bnine, bringing this old topic back to life, I am not sure who your with but I have been searching for roll cage tech, I have a feeling I may need it soon, but I still want to keep the stock top accessories useable.
can these be built to fit under a hard top?
yes
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Bnine on September 08, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
Bnine, bringing this old topic back to life, I am not sure who your with but I have been searching for roll cage tech, I have a feeling I may need it soon, but I still want to keep the stock top accessories useable.
can these be built to fit under a hard top?

Yeah. There are lots of cage options out there. Most can be made to fit with factory padding, sound bars, etc etc.

You can go full custom with someone like me but I'm not sure it's warranted. It is significantly more money than just having a basic add on welded/bolted in.

But yeah. I do cages for people once occosionally.
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: bullitt85 on September 08, 2013, 09:11:51 PM
Thanks for the input, after posting this got a text from noel steering me in the right direction, getting a bolt in already fabbed I think, looking at poison spyder's cage.
Title: Re: Some Roll Cage Tech
Post by: Bnine on September 10, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
Rock hard does bolt ins, PSC's are mostly weld in, unless they have a new one.

If you are doing a weld in, you will still need someone to burn it in for you. Unless you do your own welding.

Let me know if you need help with that. I do those as well.