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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: kemper on June 24, 2015, 10:24:27 PM

Title: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: kemper on June 24, 2015, 10:24:27 PM

Hey guys,

Looking to put a 1978 Ford Dana 44 in the front of my WJ. I'm wondering if anyone has insight as to whether or not my stock brake lines will bolt up?


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Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: Bnine on June 25, 2015, 02:09:26 PM

Doubt it

Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: cLAY on June 25, 2015, 09:48:19 PM

Seriously?

You're trying to put a '70s era 3/4ton truck axle thats setup for leaf springs into modern day luxury SUV.  Hooking up the brake lines is the easy part. Have you figured out what master cylinder to use since the stock one probably won't move enough fluid to properly work the brake calipers on that axle.

Might want to do some more thinking and research.

Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: kemper on June 26, 2015, 11:39:00 AM

Oh, dang. I thought it was a direct bolt in :(

Stock master cylinder is fine for this application as many cherokee guys run a WJ master cylinder for their 1 ton swaps.

Simple questions about brake line ends but I guess I'll just have to figure it out!


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Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: dubbleJs on June 26, 2015, 01:17:47 PM

Quote from: kemper on June 26, 2015, 11:39:00 AM

Oh, dang. I thought it was a direct bolt in :(

Stock master cylinder is fine for this application as many cherokee guys run a WJ master cylinder for their 1 ton swaps.

Simple questions about brake line ends but I guess I'll just have to figure it out!


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Yeah...as Clay said brake lines are just the tip of the iceberg. You will need to weld on coil spring buckets, control arm mounts, track bar mount, shock mounts, figure out a new driveshaft, make sure the gearing matches whatever rear diff you have...etc.

Wouldn't it be sweet if a d44 was a direct bolt in?!?

Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: kemper on June 26, 2015, 02:29:21 PM

Sorry man, I was being sarcastic. I'm doing full 44/60 swap. Axles are trussed, brackets welded, buckets welded, geared. All that's left is brake lines, new controls arms, and tires! I just can't find anything online about what brake lines are used and I'm still waiting on the calipers to come in!




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Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: raf2379 on June 26, 2015, 06:43:21 PM

I believe the banjo bolts are different, the ford D44 uses 3/8"-24 UNF - Long Banjo Bolt and the WJ I think uses a metric 10mm banjo bolt, only way to know (as I'm not that far yet in my build) is to check once your calipers come in, you might need to get new 3/8 banjo bolts, but be able to reuse your soft brake lines. or get new soft brake lines http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/braidedbrakelines.htm

Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: hps4evr on June 26, 2015, 11:31:48 PM

I'm pretty certain greggs can build brake lines with whatever ends you ask them to use.

Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: kemper on June 27, 2015, 12:45:41 AM

Quote from: raf2379 on June 26, 2015, 06:43:21 PM

I believe the banjo bolts are different, the ford D44 uses 3/8"-24 UNF - Long Banjo Bolt and the WJ I think uses a metric 10mm banjo bolt, only way to know (as I'm not that far yet in my build) is to check once your calipers come in, you might need to get new 3/8 banjo bolts, but be able to reuse your soft brake lines. or get new soft brake lines http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/braidedbrakelines.htm

The WJ actually uses a 3/8 -24 banjo bolt as well so it may work! Thanks for your response with legitimate insight into the matter! Are you building a WJ as well?


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Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: raf2379 on June 27, 2015, 01:47:45 AM

nope I'm building an XJ, its taking forever

Title: Re: Keep/Ford Brake lines
Post by: cjust on June 27, 2015, 08:43:39 PM

Quote from: raf2379 on June 27, 2015, 01:47:45 AM

nope I'm building an XJ, its taking forever

It's a monster of an xj


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