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Off Highway Staging Area => Open Trail Rides => Topic started by: TJ54 on October 19, 2006, 08:47:58 AM

Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on October 19, 2006, 08:47:58 AM
I am changing the date to Sunday 12th, as so many members have plans on the 11th
Maclean store 10:00 am ( late start time due to a members request, he had better show up :wink: )

Open run to anyone.

There will be strict rules on vehicles, if a vehicle is deemed to not be trail ready, Mainly if the vehicle seems to be in a poor state of repair, bald tires etc.  you will be asked to leave.

We will split into smaller groups of 4 to 5 jeeps. Probably divided by jeep/driver ability. I would like to have a member in each group if not 2.

Trails will be picked at the store on the morning of the run depending on trail and weather conditions.

The usual CJA rules.

This will probably be this years last newbie run at Maclean. The official closing run will not be a beginners run
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: 01sahara on October 19, 2006, 11:09:49 AM
Easy newbie runs are great. Nolan and I are in. :lol:

Thanks for setting things up Ian and the change of date and time.  :wink:

Blair
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 19, 2006, 11:22:15 AM
I should be in and can lead or be a tow truck (add to be BEvERage fund)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: JasonL_031 on October 19, 2006, 11:49:26 AM
sorry i am out that one have to parade that day have to get my dress uniform all spick and span
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on October 19, 2006, 11:54:10 AM
can i come out? does maclean close Nov 1st?
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: kevman on October 19, 2006, 12:01:03 PM
Love to go but...

I'm going to be in Vancouver...

Go Flames Go!

Check out this gem, I'm sure you can put the rest togethor...
http://www.buysell.com/root/detail/Calgary,%20Alberta/1989_Domestic_Trucks_Vans/3536/54250562/89_Ford_Aerostar_3L_132_000_kms_auto.aspx
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 19, 2006, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: "Mudhawg"
can i come out? does maclean close Nov 1st?


Dec 1st
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: SteveO on October 19, 2006, 12:56:07 PM
Quote from: "Mudhawg"
can i come out? does maclean close Nov 1st?


Closes Nov 30. ....Steve
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: RubiconBG on October 19, 2006, 02:45:28 PM
I will be there!!!
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: SteveO on October 19, 2006, 02:55:25 PM
If it's not too cold and I can get it back together in time I'd like to get the 40 out before winter.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TOYZ on October 19, 2006, 09:25:09 PM
Change of date works for me I'll be there
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: cotaman on October 19, 2006, 09:46:20 PM
you can count me in

Eugene
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: merlin on October 19, 2006, 10:36:27 PM
Quote from: "JasonL_031"
sorry i am out that one have to parade that day have to get my dress uniform all spick and span


whats going on after remembrance day??
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on October 19, 2006, 10:51:07 PM
I'd like to come out, but I need some work done on the YJ first.

ZJ has more issues than the YJ right now, so I'll be two-dooring it if I come (although tranny just started to slip a little in the Benz today, so hopefully fixing that won't keep me from getting ready).
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on October 19, 2006, 11:33:23 PM
OK if ya'll dont mind me coming out im in.... i should have my 33's on by then... only prob is i aint got a rear towhook cus my custom bumper hasnt been built yet with integrated tow hook is that ok? i have a CB
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: JasonL_031 on October 20, 2006, 12:55:56 AM
yea the first date was nov 11 but i am out of commision on nov 12 sobbering up going to be way too hung over in remembering comrades who didn't come home.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: merlin on October 20, 2006, 10:04:24 AM
oh come on, i'll be the same way.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: 01sahara on October 20, 2006, 10:23:08 AM
Quote from: "merlin"
oh come on, i'll be the same way.


I too will be spending some time in the Bowness Legion with my Dad. He is a WWII Navy vet.  I will still make the run its not till 10.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Karl on October 20, 2006, 05:59:41 PM
Count me in!
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on October 22, 2006, 08:10:37 PM
Thanks to Bogfrog we have the start of a plan for this run.

We think it would be a great idea to start this run by going to the gravel pit to play for a while.

The newbies who have not been off road before or have very limited experience could learn some driving techniques and get some experience with backing down hills, learning how much their jeep will flex, driving off camber etc.

A more experienced wheeler could take them for a ride in thier own jeep so that the newbie can get a feel at what a jeep can do. Or a more experienced jeeper could jump in the newbies jeep and give them some hints on the best way to drive up and down hills, of camber stuff etc.

A mini jeeping 101 course. Then when we are bored with that, we could split into groups and head off to the trails.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan?
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on October 22, 2006, 08:11:49 PM
since my trucks for sale i doubt ill have it but will hopefully be there with a jeeper
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Matt4x4 on October 22, 2006, 08:19:16 PM
Do we need to be CJA members to go on this ride?

What are some basic requirements for stockers, do we need a winch, or cb, tow points etc. I have a 1994 ZJ 5.2L V8 bone stock. I just want to do easy stuff, because I dont want to break anything.

Where are you guys meeting to get organized?

I used to abuse my stock yj pretty good. But I primarly like mud holes.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on October 22, 2006, 08:28:19 PM
i would suggest towpoints and a CB as well as a strap (with looped end no metal hooks)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on October 22, 2006, 08:34:08 PM
No, you don't have to be a member. You don't even have to have a jeep,

Yes, you definately have to have tow points. front and rear.

No, a winch is not required.

If you just want to hang around in the pit with us a CB is not req'd
For a trail run a CB is req'd
Communications are very important.
If there are group of people that want to do a run using FRS radios that would be fine with me. Everybody in a group must be able to communicate with each other. I can not stress this enough, I have seen too many incidents this year that have been resolved easily because of radios, And I have seen some that went badly and unsafely because of inadequate communications.

I have a few frs radios, I will lend out if a group wants to borrow them, Bring some AA batteries.
I will relax the radio rule for this run only for any newbies.


PS: I don't really like the term "newbie" but I can't think of another word.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on October 22, 2006, 08:47:13 PM
Quote from: "TJ54"

PS: I don't really like the term "newbie" but I can't think of another word.


How's "fresh tug meat" sound? :lol:

I went out on my last run with these guys in my 93 ZJ.  V8, 5.2, but Limited Edition with the Up Country package including the hitch, tow hooks, skid plates, and a factory 1" lift.  

Out of all of it, I definately COULD have ended up using the tow hooks (but luckily I didn't, and I stress that was LUCK), but the skids definately came in handy, as one creek crossing gave a good little THUMP on the transfer case skid.

Something to think about. Should be easy enough to find at a pick n` pull.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: SteveO on October 22, 2006, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: "Mudhawg"
since my trucks for sale i doubt ill have it but will hopefully be there with a jeeper


Not having a drivers license could be an issue as well don't you think?
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on October 22, 2006, 09:11:52 PM
ive already gone over this with ian i woulda had everything worked out.. IE im gettin my learners this week and truck would have insurance and one of my buddys who is over 20 would be with me (fully liscenced)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: 01sahara on October 23, 2006, 08:08:58 AM
Quote from: "01sahara"
Quote from: "Mudhawg"
ive already gone over this with ian i woulda had everything worked out.. IE im gettin my learners this week and truck would have insurance and one of my buddys who is over 20 would be with me (fully liscenced)

.



Good responsible answer Doug.  8)  I am sure Ian, as the trail leader, has covered all the issues with you on this and worked it out.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: 01sahara on October 23, 2006, 08:12:49 AM
Quote from: "TJ54"
No, you don't have to be a member. You don't even have to have a jeep,

Yes, you definately have to have tow points. front and rear.

No, a winch is not required.

If you just want to hang around in the pit with us a CB is not req'd
For a trail run a CB is req'd
Communications are very important.
If there are group of people that want to do a run using FRS radios that would be fine with me. Everybody in a group must be able to communicate with each other. I can not stress this enough, I have seen too many incidents this year that have been resolved easily because of radios, And I have seen some that went badly and unsafely because of inadequate communications.

PS: I don't really like the term "newbie" but I can't think of another word.


Good idea Ian
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: fony3 on October 23, 2006, 10:21:16 AM
You can count me in...I like the idea of teaching us "fresh tug meat" some off roading techniques at the gravel pit before hitting the trail.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 23, 2006, 10:28:13 AM
Quote from: "fony3"
You can count me in...I like the idea of teaching us "fresh tug meat" some off roading techniques at the gravel pit before hitting the trail.


Yeah Ian is not just another pretty face  :D
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Matt4x4 on October 24, 2006, 02:43:36 AM
OK I am definately in. The only thing is, I dont have a CB. So can I borrow one of yours TJ54?

As for tow points, where can I pick up some for my '94 ZJ? Where should I put them? For the rear, I have a hitch.

Thanks
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: kevman on October 24, 2006, 08:38:41 AM
I believe http://jeepstuff.8m.com/ is still open for appointment purchases???

If so, that's where I would go looking for tow hooks/brackets.
Title: rememberence day
Post by: unionjack on October 24, 2006, 09:03:46 AM
i think im out of this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the jeep needs some minor things done before they turn into major things!!!!! its almost off the road for some r&r for the jeep, have fun guys
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TaTtOo on October 24, 2006, 05:24:54 PM
Hey Ian... Count me in for this one... Let me know if you need anything.  Are we meeting at the store?  What time?

Cheers
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on October 24, 2006, 06:48:24 PM
Quote from: "Matt4x4"
OK I am definately in. The only thing is, I dont have a CB. So can I borrow one of yours TJ54?

Thanks


Yes, you can borrow a FRS radio
No, I don't have extra CB's

I am assuming when you say when you have a hitch, you are not thinking of using a trailer ball
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Rookie on October 24, 2006, 08:38:16 PM
I'm gonna try to make this one
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 24, 2006, 09:58:15 PM
I will be there and I have 2 extra CBs, but I believe one is already spoken for.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on October 24, 2006, 10:09:28 PM
if i find someone who needs a winch wench ill come
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on October 24, 2006, 10:12:10 PM
I will hopefully be there, if I can get the leaky transfer case fixed.  Getting tow points was my major job needing to be done, but now that I have fluid leaking out, tow points or not there's no way she can go on the trail like that.

If I am there, I will probably be able to spot someone a CB for the day, as I managed to get a base station CB up and running on the August 19th run. Hopefully someone needing it would be all ready to have the wires run to a hot fuse or similar set up, so we're not sitting trying to fish things through the firewall (Buki can wrench my tow hooks on in the parking lot while we're doing that - he has experience already :lol:).

If I do come down from Sylvan, I'd like to get a membership if possible.  If there is anything ahead of time with that needing attention, let me know and I will make sure all the ducks are in a row. :)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Matt4x4 on October 24, 2006, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: "TJ54"

Yes, you can borrow a FRS radio
No, I don't have extra CB's

I am assuming when you say when you have a hitch, you are not thinking of using a trailer ball


Well I found some tow points at Princess Auto, they are shackles and hooks for $13. I was going to try and hook them up to the hitch somehow. I also found some Nylon Recovery Straps 2"x30' (18k lbs) for $50.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on October 24, 2006, 11:07:40 PM
I would hazard a guess to say that every single time a "run" thread comes up, that tow points and CB's and all their quirks arise in the thread from the newbie side.

Can I make a suggestion?  Could we have an article written by someone knowledgeable (without pics is fine in the beginning) on the finer points of installing CB's and tow points made into a sticky at the top of the page?

That way, at least all you are doing is copying a link, stating for them (i.e. ME) to read it, and then come back with questions.


Thoughts?
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Asia on October 24, 2006, 11:47:46 PM
If your hitch has a ball/mount that is removable and held in place with a pin and safety clip, you already have a great tow point.  Remove the ball/mount, slip the loop of your tow strap into the receiver, slide the pin through the loop and add the safety clip.  This works great, I used this method for a year before I bought the Warn shackle attachment that fits into the receiver.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on October 25, 2006, 09:06:05 AM
Quote from: "Asia"
If your hitch has a ball/mount that is removable and held in place with a pin and safety clip, you already have a great tow point.  Remove the ball/mount, slip the loop of your tow strap into the receiver, slide the pin through the loop and add the safety clip.  This works great, I used this method for a year before I bought the Warn shackle attachment that fits into the receiver.


Under the right conditions, wouldn't this produce a projectile?
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 25, 2006, 09:08:06 AM
Quote from: "dunl"
Quote from: "Asia"
If your hitch has a ball/mount that is removable and held in place with a pin and safety clip, you already have a great tow point.  Remove the ball/mount, slip the loop of your tow strap into the receiver, slide the pin through the loop and add the safety clip.  This works great, I used this method for a year before I bought the Warn shackle attachment that fits into the receiver.


Under the right conditions, wouldn't this produce a projectile?


Under the right conditions, anything could be a projectile.  I have seen it done, and you need to make sure you have a GOOD pin.  However, for the price you can pick up a receiver with a shackle or hook for a decent price.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Matt4x4 on October 25, 2006, 09:19:30 AM
OK well I think I will go with this type of product for my rear.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/product_info.php/cPath/51_1996/products_id/18680?osCsid=d60784ca463b5402491abf91d0b9df11

its only $25. Im sure Modern Motors would have something like this. Or National. Im not sure what I am going to do for my front tow point.[/img]
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 25, 2006, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: "Matt4x4"
OK well I think I will go with this type of product for my rear.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/product_info.php/cPath/51_1996/products_id/18680?osCsid=d60784ca463b5402491abf91d0b9df11

its only $25. Im sure Modern Motors would have something like this. Or National. Im not sure what I am going to do for my front tow point.[/img]


Please if you got a technical question, post it in the Technical Forum, it is more likely to be answered
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Asia on October 25, 2006, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: "dunl"

Under the right conditions, wouldn't this produce a projectile?


Describe those conditions, I'm curious.  My method is as strong as the parts: pin, hitch and how its attached to the frame.  The strap loop strength is part of the strap strength.  Obviously your "shackle/mount" is still held to the hitch by that same pin.  My method may cause abrasion of the strap against the square receiver hole if pulled from an angle, I always tried to have the pull in a straight line and never had any issues with abrasion over the year+ that I used this method for tugging and being tugged.  Granted you can not hook a winch hook to the hitch using my method.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: aa856 on October 27, 2006, 10:04:07 AM
is it possible, i could come for this run
i have a 5.5inch lift comanche 32 inch tires tow hooks front and rear,
and i dont get out to much.
is their anything else i would need?

thanks kyle
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on October 27, 2006, 10:13:04 AM
Quote from: "aa856"
is it possible, i could come for this run
i have a 5.5inch lift comanche 32 inch tires tow hooks front and rear,
and i dont get out to much.
is their anything else i would need?

thanks kyle


It is an open run so we will see you there.  As long as you have a CB are you good
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: aa856 on October 27, 2006, 12:29:45 PM
ill buy one this week im in
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Lugnut on October 28, 2006, 08:38:43 AM
I hope to be in for this one....been way to long since the last one.

Looking foward to it.   :)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: FiEND on November 01, 2006, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: "Matt4x4"
OK well I think I will go with this type of product for my rear.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/product_info.php/cPath/51_1996/products_id/18680?osCsid=d60784ca463b5402491abf91d0b9df11

its only $25. Im sure Modern Motors would have something like this. Or National. Im not sure what I am going to do for my front tow point.[/img]


i bought a 10,000 pound all in one at princess auto for $20.  similar to that but instead of having to put a clamp in it, the end has a large O that I loop the strap into.   looks like this  =O
Title: rememberance day run
Post by: red-xj-666 on November 01, 2006, 06:08:38 PM
I'd like to tag along, but I don't know where the store is. I've only been going to waiporous.


'97 xj 3"lift, 31" trxus, arb front bumper, rear tow pts, CB.
Title: Re: rememberance day run
Post by: BlackYJ on November 01, 2006, 06:20:51 PM
Quote from: "red-xj-666"
I'd like to tag along, but I don't know where the store is. I've only been going to waiporous.


'97 xj 3"lift, 31" trxus, arb front bumper, rear tow pts, CB.


Check out this link, http://www.aurs.org/Images/map-toMcLean.jpg.  The store is about 0.5-1 km from the highway
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: red-xj-666 on November 01, 2006, 06:22:40 PM
thanks, I'll be there
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on November 01, 2006, 06:44:14 PM
I think I'm in the right area....if some kind soul could pop this into Paint and drom some directions on it, it would certainly help our visual learners as opposed to spatial learners.  :)

(http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid218/p5b6fe0b46040a99212d6d35ec36b6698/ec3d142f.jpg)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: m0th on November 01, 2006, 07:51:24 PM
Here's a Google Earth placemark to where you turn off Highway 66. You can't miss the store from here.

Clicky (http://www.moondark.net/jeep/stuff/McLeanCreekTr.kmz)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TOYZ on November 02, 2006, 12:10:22 AM
Sorry Guys, My Shifts have been changed, I can't make it after all. Maybe next time.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: FiEND on November 03, 2006, 08:36:16 PM
i'll be there.  should be bringing a friend with a taco that was just painted and needs some trophies.
Title: rememberance day run
Post by: JeepFullOfGirls on November 03, 2006, 09:47:07 PM
Any room for a stock Liberty? have experience, did JJ in '05 and '06 have CB, front and rear toes & all skids.  I'd like to see what McLean Creek has to offer, I just don't know the trails.
Title: Re: rememberance day run
Post by: 01sahara on November 04, 2006, 05:46:31 AM
Quote from: "JeepFullOfGirls"
Any room for a stock Liberty? have experience, did JJ in '05 and '06 have CB, front and rear toes & all skids.  I'd like to see what McLean Creek has to offer, I just don't know the trails.


Sure, glad to have you come out for the day. A few of us were at the jeep Jamboree as well. We may have seen you on the trails.

Blair
Title: Re: rememberance day run
Post by: Vinman on November 04, 2006, 08:05:26 AM
Quote from: "JeepFullOfGirls"
front and rear toes



Must be a bugger to find shoes :shock:
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: m0th on November 04, 2006, 10:05:23 AM
I should be there in my Liberty too.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on November 04, 2006, 10:50:25 AM
Then you need to go just to check out m0th's KJ.  :)
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: Mudhawg on November 06, 2006, 04:23:27 PM
Anyone got an open seat?
Title: Re: rememberance day run
Post by: SwampSinger on November 06, 2006, 05:21:15 PM
Quote from: "Vinman"
Quote from: "JeepFullOfGirls"
front and rear toes



Must be a bugger to find shoes :shock:



Imagine Cowboy boots ... :shock:

I would go with snowshoes all year around!!
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on November 08, 2006, 07:33:32 PM
This is on Sunday.  at 10 am at the campground store.
The day after Rememberance day.

It looks like there will be a big crowd, So if you know the way to the Gravel pit. Meet us there.

Last time I was out there the gates at the store were locked. We don't want to jam up the road by parking there.

If you are running a little late, we should be at the pit for at least an hour 'till 11ish

We can air down and disconnect at the pit as well.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on November 09, 2006, 06:19:36 PM
A note to the newbies coming on Sunday's run.

The weather on Sunday is forecasted to be a little better.  But there will be a mixture of mud, ice and snow on the trails.

There is always a possibility of vehicle damage on any given trail ride but with the conditions we are likely to see on Sunday, there is a greater chance of things going wrong on the trail. We will take this into consideration when picking trails,
This is not meant to scare anyone, It is just meant as a little forewarning. It is not often any serious issues arise on the trail, but it can happen.

If getting a dent or a few scratches on your ride is of concern you may want to rethink coming along.

But please come, it will be a great day. I hope :D

Ian
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: dunl on November 09, 2006, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: "TJ54"
But please come, it will be a great day. I hope :D

Ian


:lol:

I have to take a look at my rad that is no leaking, so I might not be making it.  Hopefully it is a connection, not the rad itself.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: JeepFullOfGirls on November 09, 2006, 10:52:29 PM
I'm not familiar with the gravel pit, how far from the store? Can someone give directions?
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: BlackYJ on November 10, 2006, 07:12:40 AM
Quote from: "JeepFullOfGirls"
I'm not familiar with the gravel pit, how far from the store? Can someone give directions?


If you don't know where it is meet at the campground store and someone will lead everyone in.
Title: Remembrance day
Post by: TJ54 on November 10, 2006, 09:34:47 PM
Bump.

Just in case someone missed this thread :D