Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: BlackYJ on January 03, 2007, 10:10:40 AM
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Well my dad is getting to the stage of looking for new tires for his new unlimited rubi, and he probably will be going with 285/75/16 tires, so here are the questions. He will be spending the majority of his time on the road, but wants a tire that will perform good offroad (he wants to try to keep up with me), so we were pondering the following tires:
1. MTR - decent all around tire, no siping, not the greatest in the mud
2. BFG MT - like the MTR but better in the mud
3. Copper STT - similar design to the MTR, siping and suppose to be better in the mud than the MTR
4. Toyo MT - again like the MTR and very similar to the STT
So what are peoples thoughts? Who have ran these tires? I have ran MTRs and they are decent, but I think there are better tires now. If he goes with the MTR or BFG, he will most likely get them siped.
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Toyo's all the way.
I have that exact tire on my truck, just picked up 10 more last night for my freinds 2 jeeps.
They are an awsome all around tire.
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Sorry to hijack the thread but How are all of the above in ice and snow in the winter? I still need to get new 33" rubber for those 4.10's
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The toyo's are good in the snow an ice.
I take my truck to the feild once in a while, and have been in a few bad snowstorms. They worked really well.
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The more sipes the better for ice as that is what provides traction. My siped MTRs are very good on ice. All these tires should be very good in snow on the streets because of the larger voids. However, another thing you have to keep in mind is how hard the rubber gets in cold weather, softer tires usually have better traction.
My dad is kind of leaning towards the STTs or Toyos because they are already siped, whereas both the MTRs and BFGs are not.
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My vote is for the Cooper STT's
That's what I have , Definatly better than MTR's in the mud, Better than the stock MTR's on ice, but I don't know about the Siped MTR's.
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That's what I have , Definatly better than MTR's in the mud, Better than the stock MTR's on ice, but I don't know about the Siped MTR's.
Siped MTRs still suck in the mud, but the sipes improve wear and ice handling
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Wow those cooper stt's are not cheap 1334.03 all inclusive for a set of 33X12.5 15's installed and balanced. That was at OK tire on Mcleod in the south.....
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They are a lot cheaper than MTRs. Price of tires are going up shortly or at least goodyear products
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cooper stt1068.48 all in
mtr 1153.28 all in
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Where can I get those cooper stt for 1068.48 all in. What size are we talking about
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33/12.50r15
tires,balance,stems,and taxes thats for four.
pm me I'm a sympathetic tire dealer
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33/12.50r15
tires,balance,stems,and taxes thats for four.
pm me I'm a sympathetic tire dealer
What about in a 285/75/16 and do you sell the Toyos
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I currently have siped MT/R's in the 35" flavour.
Offroad they perform well year round although they still suck in the mud.
On road, they perform surprisingly well in all conditions (considering they are not really a winiter tire)
I've had 5 sets of BFT AT's in 30", 31", 32", 33" & 35"
I am about a week away from ordering my 6th set of the BF's
Vince
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ihave coopers and toyo's in the city.
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BFG's coming out with a new mud terrain. Looks a lot like the Krawler tread pattern. I don't know when it's supposed to be available but I will check out the magazine I saw the article in.
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Do the toyo MT's come in 33X12.5 15? I see on the us website they only come in a 33X13.5 15. I did see another site where they had 33X12.5 15's but I cant seam to find it again??
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yes the toyo does come in a 33/12.5X15
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Hey Bill what size toyos did you put on the jeeps and it looks like the 285/75/16 only come in an "E" rating
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We put those on the rubicon, and 33 x 1350 15's are going on the CJ.
The E rateds are really nice on the road. They noticably improved the ride and handling. But we expect they will need fairly low pressure to get flexy.
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So the E rated tires are not too bad for a TJ, they are not too stiff or do you run them on the street at a pretty low pressure
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Around 25 on the street. They are a stiff tire, but ride nice. I know, sounds backwards, but they do.
Hard the same effect on my 1 ton as well. Way stronger tire, but a lot better ride.
They are also really quiet, you only feel and hear when rolling to a stop, and right at take off. Soon as you up past 10kph, they smooth right out.
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Around 25 on the street. They are a stiff tire, but ride nice. I know, sounds backwards, but they do.
Hard the same effect on my 1 ton as well. Way stronger tire, but a lot better ride.
They are also really quiet, you only feel and hear when rolling to a stop, and right at take off. Soon as you up past 10kph, they smooth right out.
You're talking crazy talk 8)
I see that the coopers in the 285/75/16 are a "D" rating, is there really much difference between the different rating. I know that these rating basically just allow you to run higher pressures, which then relates to weight but are the sidewalls that much stiffer?
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I dont think you would really notice the difference from a d to an e. C to E, definately.
Any 16 will be a little stiffer due to less sidewall anyways.