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Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on January 26, 2007, 12:08:07 PM
Hello to everyone from the Smokies of Tennessee. I found your site by accident and after reading your forum I can feel the warmth of a great bunch of folks. Had flying credits I had to book before Feb 6th and have always dreamed of visiting one of the only places prettier than my Smokey Mountains.My wife and I will be landing in Calgary April 29th and staying until May 8th. Since alot of  folks are always emailing me on advice about my back yard having TELLICO (North Carolina) and WINDROCK (Tennessee) , Smokey Mountain Nat. Park and Pigeon Forge/Gaitlandburg (Dollywood and tons of other stuff all within an hour of my house) I thought it would be fun to contact some brother/sister offroaders and pic their brains on where and what we shoud do. We are outdoors people (young 56 & 40) who love good company,good food and drink and just plain laughing. As I searched the internet I found a Hummer tour but found it out of business. I could hear my wife saying don't you get enough of that offroad stuff here at home? I am a club officer of Atomic City FourWheelers and have been going thru website hell with ours. I am the smallest of our extreme members and probably the least knowledgable having only been at it for about 12 yrs while my cohorts have been building,fabricating,tubing and machining these rigs their whole lives with an 87 YJ SO on 35's. I just got my 14 yr old a 74 CJ6( or so that's my excuse to the wife) lol.
     I haven't made any arrangements as of yet except the airline tickets getting us there. We're easy to please although my wife (who is the Mercedes Benz Service Manager here in Knoxville) has asked that we go horseback riding one time.(quite the spectrum between her cars and my rigs,lol) Other thoughts were dog sledding,hiking,seeing the country including Banff and Lake Louse,We wern't sure what we could do due to not knowing weather restraints/climate that time of the year. I hadn't even considered any offroad adventures until I saw your picture posts.WOW!!!!! Any and ALL emails would be greatly appreciated and maybe someday I can recipricate if any of you get down in my neck of the woods and experience our southern hospitality. I get visits from my old Florida club (South Florida Jeep Club) from time to time.........their environment is mud and swamp....they are like kids here in the mountains where they have to go and stop on a bridge to be 10ft above sea level.
     I know you want to see pics as we all do but mine are now limited due to a virus that wiped out 5 years of fantastic jeep'n. It broke my heart  and no , I was dumb as dirt not backing up the TONS of pics I had stored.
Here's a few crummy ones I have left:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/whitewolfdakota/easter2005003.jpg)

automatic/258 I6/ 2100 Motorcraft carb/ NP 231 Rebuilt/ Transmission Cooler/ Stainless Borla Headers/Custom Exhaust system/ Slip Yoke Elimination Kit/ Custom Drive shafts/Tom Woods rear shaft Custom Trac Bar (D90 Radius Arm)/ Tera Hi Steer Knuckle/ Custom Drag Link/Custom Tie rod, both by RJCustoms/ Custom Springs w/ Rancho 9000 shocks all around/ 3" body lift/ reverse shackle kit/ Spring Over Application/ Warn HD Moly Shafts/ Warn Front freewheeling Hub Conversion/ Reverse Shackel Kit/ Detroit locker/ 4.56 gears/ Rear axle Dana 44/ Detroit Electrac Locker/ 4.56 gears/Custom Rear Disc Brakes SOURCE CO2 Tank & Regulator/ Outlaw wheels w/35x12.50 MTR Goodyear Wranglers/ 9.5ti warn winch/ KC drivers & fogs/ Optima Yellow Top/ Cobra PA/ gas cans/ Bulletproof rear bumper & tire carrier/Custom 2X4(1/4") Rock Sliders w/custom tube steps/ Bulletproof Front Bumper/KC Hi-Lites/Hella 530 Fog/Drivers/Warn 9.5ti winch/Rancho 9000 Shocks/Bullitproof Rear Bumper w/Tire Carrier/Hi-Lift Jack/3 ft Gorilla crowbar/Swaybar Disconnects(now in trash along with swaybar)/Alpine Stereo w/6 CD Changer/Cobra CB/Grant HiGrade Custom Wheel/Tuffy Stereo Security Console w/400 Watt Inverter/ Custom Full Cage w/Handles,Oh crap Bars and 12 Gussets by BradHead Fabricators/ Five Point racing harneses X4/ and other silly junk!Whew! John Cooper (WHITEWOLFDAKOTA)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/whitewolfdakota/ElkWatch-09-06080.jpg)

I plan to become a regular here and hope I can be a positive addition. Please vist our club site even though I still think it's a disaster.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Spinalguy on January 26, 2007, 09:29:01 PM
Welcome,
i was lucky enough to drive 18 hours south of Toronto and wheel Tellico. i actually broke bad and headed thru Dolly land for a spectacular couple days in Gatlinburg. We than made it to Knoxville which was the depot for Mopar. We grabbed a new tie rod with 10 mins to spare before closing.
Beautiful scenery. We drove the Blue Ridge Mountains all the way down from Virginia.

Now we drive 18 hours south of Calgary to go to Moab.

Try here for some good times. http://howlingdogtours.com/


Tom :)
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: dunl on January 26, 2007, 11:45:27 PM
Quite the range?  I drive a 95 YJ and a 1980 300SD - both of you would like my choices. :lol:


BTW, love the CJ6. :)
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: calltrex on January 27, 2007, 12:03:08 AM
i just noticed the horn on the mirror.  nice
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: apex on January 27, 2007, 12:31:24 AM
welcome aboard. I'm sure there will be a run sometime during your visit. There are usually seats available on runs if you are interested.

Banff is nice but quite touristy. Lake Louise is very beautiful... lots of good camera spots. If you are the outdoorsy type, i'd suggest finding a hiking trail out near Canmore which is on the way to Banff. Something closer to the city would be Kananaskis Country which has an off road area, lots of camping, and many many hiking trails. Be sure to rent a car with unlimited millage.

The best thing about visiting Calgary is getting out of the city. The proximity to God's country is definitely a good reason to get out of the city.

1hour west is Mountains and Banff
1.5hour south are Waterton Lakes
1hour east will take you to the bad lands of Drumheller.

Check out these pages for some more info on our neck of the woods.

http://www1.travelalberta.com/en-ab/index.cfm?country=CA&state=AB&setlocale=1
http://www1.travelalberta.com/en-south/?CFID=6044523&CFTOKEN=27201261
http://www.albertaskananaskis.com/

A good day trip would be here...
http://www.braggcreek.ca/kananaskis/elbowfalls.htm

Good luck and drop me a PM if you have any questions... been living here a while.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: SwampSinger on January 27, 2007, 10:17:37 AM
Welcome to the site !!!

There are all kinds of things to do around here if you like the outdoors. I'm from Eastern Canada (Quebec). I felt in love with Alberta 6 years ago and never look back. :D .

I also lived in Norris, TN in 1989 (Andreson County near Oakridge, TN) with the Irwins for a year on the Appalachian museum property (  http://www.museumofappalachia.com/ ). I love the Smokies and its residents. It was a time in my life that I will never forget.

I think you will like it up here. The Rockies are beautiful.

Welcome again.. and talk to you all soon.

Dom
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: frenchy on January 27, 2007, 10:44:05 AM
Welcome !!!

Too bad about your website... No backups?

Anyways, about your trip here...'dog sledding' ? not sure about that one, might have to go quite a bit farther north for that.

For horse back, I'd recommend Griffin Valley Ranch. Some nice scenery, they offer 4500 acres of un-guided (go where you want) trail rides. Guides also available if needed.
http://www.griffinvalleyranch.ca/index.htm

If you want hiking, you may aswell go while you're visiting banff. The gondola can take you to the top of sulphur mountain (2,281 m (7,486 feet) above sea level) where you can find a few other trails. You can hike up the trail to the summit too (Total Elevation Gain
 698 m (2,292 feet) ) I'd rather Gondola ride up, and hike down...   :lol:

http://www.banffgondola.com/

Oh, and don't forget to go soak in the hotsprings after all that Hiking...

http://www.hotspring.ca/
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: cLAY on January 27, 2007, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: "frenchy"
Welcome !!!


Anyways, about your trip here...'dog sledding' ? not sure about that one, might have to go quite a bit farther north for that.



Not North just a bit west; http://howlingdogtours.com/.

 :D
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on January 27, 2007, 05:53:59 PM
there is also mad dogs and englishmen and snowy owl dogsled tours
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Asia on January 29, 2007, 10:35:52 PM
One of my favourite hikes is the "Plain of the Six Glaciers" trail at Lake Louise, - spectacular mountain scenery, large glaciated peaks, the trail traverses several zones of flora and geography ending on moraines above a glacier with glaciers and peaks surrounding you.  There is also an alpine tea house near the end of the trail.  It's a full day hike and well worth the effort.  A spectacular mountain scenery drive is the trip from Lake Louise to Jasper, take a few days to include the viewpoints, short hikes and the Columbia Icefields.

That is a sharp looking YJ you have.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on January 30, 2007, 08:52:23 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome and especially the great tips on what to do. Looks like we're gonna have alot of great stories and adventures when we get back to our campfires in Tennessee. Catching a ride on one of your adventures would be icing on the cake! I hope my pm's to all of you got where they were supposed to be. Keep those suggestions coming and any tips on accomodations would help also. Looks like Canmore has alot of great inns like the Georgetown (that's where I spent my whole life growing up...Georgetown in Washington,D.C......yep, I'm originally a DC boy till college). We range from tents to Ritz Carlton but try not to be stupid about our funds. Karen says a fireplace would be nice for at least a few days. This Florida girl has never seen more than a dusting of snow and that was just two years ago. Boy, she's gonna love this trip!
     On another subject, I'm an avid hiker(Jeremiah Johnson type) and like the back country as much as air. I wonder if anyone knows about taking a knife with me. Karen laughs at me when I say I'd like to put my Cooper Bowie in my checked- in suitcase to have for hiking. I've been treed twice in Colorado (I stupidly was not afraid but you really do take notice when they lumber into your camp) and being a dumb arse stupidly walked upon a grizzly upwind in Montana. Obviously I was lucky cause I'm still here and he was only about 30 ft away.Not that my sharp tooth would do any good ( I can only hope for a deterrent)but it makes me feel better having a knife and a flint and a compass on me at all times in the woods. We just had a woman come upon a black bear with her two kids last summer while playing in a  swimming hole in the park. The female bear not only mauled the woman and her little boy (they are ok) but them hunted down the little girl who ran away during the comotion and tore her apart. These incedents are 1 in 10,000 but I don't want to be that one,lol!The cat mauling in California a few days ago further accents my concerns. I was lucky enough to find the knife maker whom the Cody museum commissioned to duplicate Jerimiah Johnson's hunting knife and he created a knife of my design and honored me by naming it after my family name (COOPER BOWIE). I know this sounds stupid but it has been a great friend and a few gators in Florida have felt my sharp tooth and probably saved a hunk of my hide.If possible I'd like to bring it with me. I guess I should call the airlines or maybe have it FEdEx'd up. I don't know what the rules and laws are for a knife (All the Park Rangers here know it as my Camp Utility knife.) but any imput positive or negative will be graciously recieved. Thanks again,John.


If anyone is interested in knife for a lifetime you can't do better than checking this family business  out:
http://www.ycsi.net/users/jolley/knives/knives.htm
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Asia on January 30, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
You can carry your knife with you in the Provincial and National Parks.  You can also bring Bear Spray and Bear Bangers ( devices that shot a short distance and then explode creating a loud bang to scare a bear ).  I have carried bear spray and bangers, and my river rescue knife.  Luckily, I have never had to use any of them for defence.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: apex on January 30, 2007, 11:57:02 AM
2nd that on the bear bangers or bear mace. You can buy them locally pretty easily. Canmore has seen an increase in bear activity lately.  There's a great pub in canmore... the name escapes me right now... I think it's a Rose and Crown or something like that. Really good food and beer.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: HIWYH8R on January 30, 2007, 09:58:19 PM
Would the reason the name escapes you is the beer part of the pub?  :shock:
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on January 31, 2007, 12:01:35 PM
if you do deside to spend your time here in canmore drop me a line and i can let you in on all the sweet local hide outs. And the ar that you guys are thinking of i beleive is the Grizzly Paw pub. its the micro brew out hear with great award winning beers and awsome food (my friday hangout :D ) as for carrying a knife no prob, and right now there has been very little bear activity this winter but last summer was interesting..
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: apex on January 31, 2007, 01:31:48 PM
Quote from: "HIWYH8R"
Would the reason the name escapes you is the beer part of the pub?  :shock:


could very well be... hrmmmmmm

I can't seem to remember
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on February 02, 2007, 09:52:35 AM
Speaking of a good "cold one" what will the temperature be late April/Early May? What clothes should we bring? If it's as tricky as here at home just a temperature and location aren't enough I suspect. We just had 4'' of snow on the plateau which is on the west side of my valley and 6" in the Smokies which are east of me (both of which are 20 minutes away). The Cherokees were pretty sharp making Knoxville and it's valley the capitol of their nation long ago. We didn't get any snow, infact the four years I have been here we haven't gotten a total of 3" for that whole time in the valley but on each side tons of snow. Remember we will be doing day hikes and all the great suggestions you folks have graciously pointed out to us. I can't wait to go to Gander Mountain (like Cabela's or Bass Pro Shops) and check out some neat stuff...........Honey, you know we need some of this gear!!!!Maybe a new Alaskan Guide Tent to leave at the house incase the kids need to do some emergency camping in the back yard when they burn down our house while we are up in Alberta or maybe some new guns to keep the ones in gun closet that I don't use anymore company!LOL! LOL!
     Anyway throw us some senarios and let me get packing!

Here's 20" of snow here in our Tennesse valley:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/whitewolfdakota/20_inches_snowclassic.jpg)
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: shibby on February 02, 2007, 10:38:22 AM
Well here's some information I found regarding calgary weather.
These are average temps over the last few years for april and may

April    High  11.0° C  (51.0° F)     Low  -2.0° C  (28.0° F)
May     High  16.0° C  (62.0° F)       Low  3.0° C  (37.0° F)

But also remember that temperatures will be a bit cooler when you get closer to the mountains. Also, because we are so close to the mountains the weather can change really fast. There's a saying around calgary, if you don't like the weather wait an hour or two.
It would probably be a good idea to make sure you're prepared for everything from light snow to warm sunny days.

Here's a link to the Weather Networks information on Calgary, should help you out

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/features/travellers/pages/CAAB0049.htm
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Giffer on February 02, 2007, 03:17:41 PM
haha, its rare if they can get todays weather right not alone weather in April/May, so your best bet...........layers. peel them off and put them back on
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: shibby on February 02, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
LOL... well you're right about them not being able to predict the weather around here. But those are actually the average temperatures recorded over the last 10 years.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Rodjock on February 03, 2007, 09:13:42 PM
Quote
There's a saying around calgary, if you don't like the weather wait an hour or two.


I thought it was more like 10 min...

But like they were saying, layers are your best bet. And don't forget your toques and mittens.

I'm not sure about the other dog-sled adventures, but I'll vouch for Howling Dog Tours. Went a few years ago and had a blast. Got to help steer and everything! (but you can also just sit back and relax) They're very educational and have great guides.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on February 05, 2007, 01:20:58 PM
Looks lke Canmore will be our first stop after we get a car and leave the airport. Is this a busy time of year?..........I'm for winging it if there wouldn't be a problem getting accomodations but the wife is used to having reservations for each night. I met a fellow working at Gander Mountain who is here so his kids can be near their grandparents.........he used to be a Kayak guide in Alaska. He lived at the end of the road in Homer. He raved about your area and said to go as far as  Jasper so now that is in the itinerary. I keep telling Karen how can I make reservations when we don't know where we will be?LOL!

A buddy just sent me an old pic of my rig, Ol Betsy. Still can't believe I lost ALL my offroad pics. This is just after her yearly bath.....she's NEVER this clean(usually 2 " of mud on the floors) but it doesn't hurt having a wife working at a auto dealership!


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/whitewolfdakota/Plum_Crazy_Toy_Run_04_027_3_thumb.jpg)
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on February 05, 2007, 06:42:05 PM
a drive down town showed that all the hotel have vacany, but that an change as fast as our weather :P
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on February 06, 2007, 02:08:46 AM
Thanks, can't wait to buy you and anyone else in the club a few cold ones at the Grizzly Paw! Just recouperating from the superbowl parties. This year was a big deal due to Peyton Manning coming out of college here in Knoxville. Even being smack in the middle of the bible belt these great folks have mastered the the tailgate ritual.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: SwampSinger on February 06, 2007, 04:33:42 AM
GO VOLS!!! :D
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Giffer on February 06, 2007, 10:08:59 AM
:P buy a few cold ones!! :P  Cant wait till you get here!!
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: apex on February 06, 2007, 12:00:08 PM
sweet. I might just have to make a trip out to canmore to take you up on that beer.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on February 07, 2007, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: "apex"
sweet. I might just have to make a trip out to canmore to take you up on that beer.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/whitewolfdakota/JEEPBEERPICTURE.jpg)

I hope you ALL show up. That pub better have lotsa BEER!!!!!!! Just had our Frebruary Club meeting and of course after 20 or so members finished planning our February 24th road trip to Harlan,Kentucky I told them about my trip and you guys. They were ALL green with envy. It's funny how two groups soooooo far from each other can have such close interests.
Definitely GO VOLS....they just beat LSU last night with Chris Lofton(our All American with a sprained ankle) coming back after two weeks off and just playing at 35% speed. We got decimated by Florida (BOO!!!) without him last Saturday.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/whitewolfdakota/Dakotaand87YJ.jpg)Here's an old old pic when Dakota was still alive.

Check out our trip plans:

http://atomiccityfourwheelers.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=7696#7696

http://www.harlancountycampground.com/


http://www.4x4grace.com/tiredirongrb/Harlan_012007_GRB.WMV
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on February 07, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
oh dont worry the Paw has lots of beer on tap, hell i evan got my own mug hangin up waiting for me :lol:
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 10, 2007, 08:54:39 AM
Well, only 19 days until we land in Calgary! Starting to get really excited about coming to your backyqrd. Have got the wife really concerned that I'm taking her to get eaten by a bear after a ten mile hike (as you can see I'm easily amused) and haven't told her otherwise. Hopefully some of you haven't forgotten I want to buy a few cold ones at the Grizzly Paw in Canmore on Sunday night April 29th..( I know it's our first night but thought it would be the easiest night for a get together not interferring with any of your other plans). As previously stated we will be at the Georgetown Inn the first night and then pot luck from there on. Still up in the air on activities but most will be dictated by the weather and temperature. We just went thru two weeks of 80 degree weather and now a four day RECORD cold front down to the teens..................killled all the spring flowers and almost took my beautiful flowerering dogwoods. I'm sure a few of you are smiling now at our over reaction to a few days of crazy weather..................we are so spoiled with such MILD weather most of the time.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: apex on April 10, 2007, 11:46:11 AM
well... we are having a late late spring this year. Definitely been cold here. There's been a lot of snow lately and no sign of it getting any better. Bring lots of layers and a rain jacket might be a good idea.

29th eh? coming up fast! Lets hope I'm not working.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 12, 2007, 09:08:35 AM
Was hoping for a little spring weather but we are expecting snow flurries even here on sunday night. We were up to the mid 80's and now this. I can just imagine how a slow slow spring will be up there!
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on April 12, 2007, 10:24:33 PM
things are getting better, it snowed here in canmore acouple of days ago but it was gone by the end of the day
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 14, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
That's good to hear. The freeze down here has KILLED the Dogwood Festival. A freeze at this time happens only every 20 years around here. Nomatter what the weather we're really starting to get excited about the trip. ONLY 15 days left!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on April 14, 2007, 11:40:58 AM
http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/forecast/city_e.html?ab-3&unit=i

just so you can keep up with the constant changing weather :P
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 23, 2007, 01:34:48 PM

ONLY SIX DAYS LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANYONE MEETING US AT THE GRIZZLYPAW SUNDAY NIGHT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on April 23, 2007, 04:31:42 PM
this sunday? sure, i should be back from Edmonton garrison by then
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on April 26, 2007, 12:07:53 AM
So what time are we meeting at the grizzly paw???
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 26, 2007, 11:32:06 AM
Whatever time you suggest if fine with us. We are landing in Calgary at 1:30 pm. We have to p/u a car and get to the Georgetown Inn in Canmore (our ONLY set plans)................you  probably can gage better than us..............is there anything inbetween than might grab our attention?????????.............you name the time and we WILL be there with bells on (by the way my wife is blonde and I will wear a Tennessee Hoops  baseball cap (beige with orange letters).........I'm pretty sure it will be the only one in your neck of the woods...lol!
     THREE MORE DAYS! By the way it was 83 degrees today here and the pollen has us all sick and messed up...........it will be GREAT to breathe again (the wife is really bad.......it make you feel like you have a head flu and makes you feel like you are 90 yrs old with iron poor blood........have never experienced anything like it until I came here....10 times worse than Florida...........I guess every great place has it's drawbacks!
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on April 26, 2007, 05:52:47 PM
lets say around 1900 or 2000 at the paw, that gives ya time to settle in and roam around town for a bit, current for cast for canmore http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/forecast/city_e.html?ab-3&unit=i
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 26, 2007, 09:47:16 PM
Sounds great! We will be there at approximately 1900.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: calltrex on April 26, 2007, 10:08:54 PM
Are you in canmore the whole time?
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 26, 2007, 10:20:38 PM
No, that's just our starting point. We have no set ajenda but have the idea of a leisurely clockwise loop......Calgary to Canmore to Lake Louise....swing up to Jasper and around. Edmonton seems a little too far unless I'm told it's a must see. The only other set plan is to be where you guys are for your Saturday run on the 5th I believe. Nothing is written in stone and still welcome any ideas. One day we want to do horses out of Brewster Stables or something similar. My wife is as crazy about horses as I am jeeps. Since it seems too late for dogsledding we might substitute jet boat ride on Columbia. The helecoptor trip sounds great but looks like I would have to take out a personal loan for that,lol! My main objective is to soak in your beautiful country and laugh alot. This will be the first escape without the kids in many, many years.
Title: NOT COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 27, 2007, 05:15:08 PM
Well,everyone................we have just found out our passports will NOT be ready.......................We are devastated!    WE WILL NOT BE COMING AT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JOHN & KAREN.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: TJ54 on April 27, 2007, 06:36:05 PM
John, we will still be here next time you come up. This passport thing has messed up alot peoples plans on both sides of the border.
You don't need a passport if you drive. It's only a few thousand km's :lol:
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: frenchy on April 27, 2007, 07:37:53 PM
I know some people are flying into nearest border town and driving over.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 27, 2007, 08:06:31 PM
Thanks for the thoughts. I've calmed down but Karen is still crying. The biggest problem was getting our oldest daughter free from school to watch the two still at home. This was our only window until NEXT year. The tickets have to be rebooked before a year so that would mean coming even earlier and I don't think that would be wise since we were thinking that we were coming up too early anyway. She needs a vacation away from the kids Now and a second honeymoon for us. We could jump on a plane and go to Puerto Rico or the V.I.'s or even Alaska but in our opinion would be NO supstitute for your back yard and you guys!I even thought about getting to the border and driving up but spending more time in a rental doesn't excite me much. Haven't been to Idaho Falls and maybe take Karen for a loop thru Grand Teton and Yellowstone (she has again never seen the Rockies and I was thinking might be a shallow supstitute for your Banff area. Jennifer will arrive tomorrow and I better make plans to get out of Dodge somewhere before my wife wants a divorce.LOL! THIS REALLY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to extend an invitation to you guys to visit me sometime and let me take care of you for a vacation jaunt! I'm not that easy to get rid of so don't count me out in the distant future.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Spinalguy on April 27, 2007, 10:12:53 PM
Thats horrible...... :cry:
Title: WE ARE BACK ON-AND COMMING AT YA!
Post by: whitewolfdakota on April 28, 2007, 12:37:09 AM
It's now 1:51 am and I've done it! I called Northwest airlines 5 hrs ago and have been on the phone ever since. I originally paid $600 each for tickets to Calgary. I found an open flight with FOUR stops leaving at 5:25 pm today but they wanted $1464 for each ticket since I wasn't waiting 7 days (then it would be $994). The agent said they would not change the price under any circumstances. I was then told to go to Expedia.com where Karen's secretary booked the tickets thru. It get even better...........we started this fiasco last September 06 when Mercedes Benz was having an international conference and we thought we could mix business with a second honeymoon. When the hurricane totalled Cancun a week before we were to go, everything was cancelled..........our resort hotel was demolished...........we had to reschedule/rebook somewhere else before February 07 to gat any credit for the NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS the assistant had gotten............I got the brilliant idea to come to Calgary/Banff where hurricanes were rare..lol.......that's where you guys came into our lives..........you know the rest.............today I was told that my application as well as thousands of others were delayed. I even asked it I paid the extra $62 over the normal fee which is SUPPOSED to get it to me in 14 days would, if and only if, I applied in the next five days, most likely get to me by the LAST week in August.
     Calling expedia I'm now in the Phillipines talking to six different people who even get Northwest Air in the mix and inform me you only get ONE change and the computor won't ever let anyone overide that policy BUT...............they did get me my $600 credit for both Tickets and could use that to book another flight.....this got me to 12:34am and I was right back where I started because Northwest had no problem with giving me the credit at 8:45!except that the fare grew to the $1400+each and could get on a Tuesday plane. I then said to myself since I'm so punch drunk already lets have some fun with Northwest again. This time I'm in Baltimore talking to a gentleman who adamently stated five times that there was nothing they could do and that they did not negotiate!!!!I'm smiling at this point like an idiot and ask to speak to a supervisor who could tell me to pound sand also. He said they would and I said I need the abuse......find them! Fourteen minutes later this sharp gal gets on and I tell her the whole story for the sixth time (I really started to get good stating my case by then with so much practice with the notion that We all have to look at these times as different and steadfast rules have to be newly interpreted for these changing situations that are not your or my fault. I stated I was willing to bend and drive seven hours in a rented car to get where I originally planned to be and someone needs to step up and bend a little themselves in these uncharted times and make a management decision and overide their cemented in stone rules. She made the decision (charging me another $100 for each ticket change) and we are on our way. Leaving Knoxville to Memphis to Minneapolis to Great Falls to Kalispell,Montana. We will be arriving there at 11:54pm and crashing. Sunday morning we will then drive the seven hrs(312 miles) to Canmore for that COLD BEER!!!!!!!!!!!! After all this I hope some will be at the Grizzly Paw(7:00pm Sunday) to CELEBRATE our arrival! GO CJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2,409 MILES - I bet I win the distance trophy,lol!
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Spinalguy on April 28, 2007, 09:27:11 AM
Awesome!!
 :)
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: apex on April 28, 2007, 11:51:51 AM
WOW!! Good on you for not giving up. Unfortunately I have to work late sunday so I can't meet you for beers. Hope you have a safe trip.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: TJ54 on April 28, 2007, 12:36:50 PM
That's awesome John, looking forward to meeting you and Karen, I will try to make it to the grizzly paw on sunday, but it's going to be tough to fit it in. But I guess you made it work :lol:  I only have to drive 45 minutes to get there :) So I will work harder to fit it in.
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: Spinalguy on April 28, 2007, 03:47:05 PM
i have a race Sunday about 4 hours away from the Grizzly Paw. By the time it ends and i hit the road home, i will not likely make it.
TK :)
Title: Newbie and coming to your backyard!
Post by: merlin on April 30, 2007, 12:03:02 AM
weill its npt about 1100 sunday night, I JUST got throught the door from my training course in edmonton. sorry i missed you guys at the paw, i stopped in for a min hopeing to spot you guys but i may have missed you. if your still in town/Banff monday evaning feel free to give me a call on my mobile.  my number is 996-0771