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Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 15, 2007, 05:59:46 PM
I'm about at my wits end on this one. Here's the story. I have a 1989 yj with a 94 2.5L with about 20k on it. I put on the Avenger Supercharger. Ran ok. I put in the Split Second Air/Fuel/Timing FTC1 computer with a base map to get me going. Ran better. I took the jeep to a performance shop to tune it on the dyno. Ran GREAT. About a month later, it started getting harder to start. Longer crank times and a rougher, sputtering idle. Still ran good under load. Then it got worse, it would stall going around corners at idle, and would sputter, high idle and stall at a standstill.

After it would stall, i would have to wait about 5 min, then it would restart, otherwise if i didnt wait it would just crank.

So i started throwing parts at it. Performance Dist. Firepower kit ( cap, coil, rotor, plugs, wires ) Better idle but still stall. Then i found the crank sensor had melted to the downpipe. Replaced. Still problems. It doesnt stall, but it idles at 1k and under load it pops and sputters quite often... ANY IDEAS BEFORE I BURN IT ? ??
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: Bnine on March 15, 2007, 07:05:30 PM
Sounds like timing or a sensor issue. Sure the TPS isnt bad?

Rotten wire or bad plug?

Bad wire on that crank sensor?

Just a few ideas.
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 15, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
Ignition system has been replaced..
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 15, 2007, 07:34:17 PM
New crank sensor
Title: fuel pump
Post by: bae146 on March 15, 2007, 08:18:25 PM
I had a friend with a 92 yj who had the same symptoms you spoke of.  It turned out to be his fuel pump in the tank went bad.  Something to check.  Put a fuel pressure guage on the manifold and watch it for fluctuations.  Good luck!!!!
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 15, 2007, 08:27:47 PM
Did that... solid constant pressure. only 34 psi though
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: Rookie on March 15, 2007, 09:21:25 PM
Did u try resetting the computer after u replaced the crank sensor

Disconnect the positive battery cable for five minutes then short it to the negative cable for 30 seconds then reconnect
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 15, 2007, 09:25:51 PM
I can reset the factory ecu through my laptop when connected to the Split Second computer. And yes, i did.
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: Rookie on March 15, 2007, 11:01:29 PM
sounds like its a bad tps
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: BlackYJ on March 16, 2007, 07:24:10 AM
If you are running a supercharger, have you looked at replacing your injectors or cleaning them and also it may be a fuel pump issue because of the supercharger requiring more fuel.
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: cLAY on March 16, 2007, 09:33:10 AM
Three things caught my attention, superchager, long crank times and melted cps into downpipe.

How much boost are you running and are you monitoring your EGTS? I would check the compresson to see if you've blown/burnt the rings and lost compression.
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 16, 2007, 03:13:24 PM
The blower came with very large injectors. Today i replaced the o2 sensor. That was a major contributing cause. I also found the main problem. A leaky intake gasket between the blower and the intake manifold. Air is being sucked in and the iac can't control idle. All the extra air is throwing off the A/F mixture.
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: cLAY on March 16, 2007, 07:14:12 PM
That would do it, glad to hear it was something simple. Just out of curisosity how much of a difference did the blower make in HP and MPG?

How is it compared to say a stock 4.0 or a small V8?
Title: Just about had it...
Post by: kenny kustom on March 16, 2007, 07:18:41 PM
I got about 130hp at the rear wheels. So that should put it close to 200 at the motor. Mpg didnt change much. But who cares. I got big power, with all my weight behind the front axle.