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Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: 4PLAYZJ on May 06, 2007, 05:53:15 PM

I have never encountered this before.  I installed 4.88 gears in my ford 8.8. for my 93 ZJ.  I am using the stock limited slip carrier, which I believe is o.k. for high ratios.  When I go to put the pinion pin back in, the crown gear is hanging over too far.  I cannot reinstall the pinion pin.  Is this common with high gear installs?  The only way I am going to fit the pin back in is to remove a bit of material from one of the crown teeth.  The problem with that is that, is that in order to get a good pattern with this gear set I had to push the pattern to the crown toe and one tooth will be missing matterial close to the gear contact.  I know it doesnt matter for the drive side but I am worried I will get noise on coast.  Anyone who has encountered this let me know, because I am close thinking that the parts are faulty.

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: RckyMtnTJ on May 06, 2007, 09:50:10 PM

On an FAQ on www.jeepsunlimited.com they say this:

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Do I need a notched cross pin? Yes for 4.56-6.14 to clear ring gear, or notch a gear tooth.

in this thread:

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674123

I haven't done the swap yet, but have been researching it.

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: BrokenAxle on May 08, 2007, 10:17:44 AM

hey, i have done gears where i have had to shave the ring gear.  i have not noticed any noise or experienced any adverse side effects.  just remember to take off as little as possible!

Dave

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: trackerthrasher on May 08, 2007, 05:06:01 PM

I shaved the cross pin....again...as little as possible. :lol:

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: cuzican on May 08, 2007, 05:35:10 PM

I just put 4.56s in an 8.8 and I had to grind a small portion off one of the teeth to get the crosspin out. I had it installed when I discovered this so I covered everything up with plastic and duct tape except for the small operating area.

I used a die grinder and just cut away a small portion of a corner, enough for the pin to slide out one side.

The advice I'd gotten from a gear installer when I ran into the problem was to grind the gear not the pin.

Works fine.

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: BrokenAxle on May 08, 2007, 06:00:40 PM

i would agree with grind the gear not the pin...
Dave

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: 4PLAYZJ on May 08, 2007, 07:45:40 PM

I ended up doing a little of both.  I figured that if the goal was to do as little as possable I could remove less material splitting the difference between the gear and the pin.  Also if I had only done the gear I would have had to remove alot of material 4.88 hung over about 1/4'.

Title: new gears?WTF
Post by: Bnine on May 09, 2007, 08:33:55 PM

Get a new pin when you get a chance Dave. Million at pick n pull.

Lots of guys on JU have busted shaved pins. None of them have shredded shaved teeth.

I shave the teeth with a cutoff wheel. No noise or issues to date.