Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: RACKMAN on January 26, 2008, 10:34:49 PM
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Anyone running a Garvin tire carrier? I need honest feedback on this unit as it is one of a couple carriers I'm considering and as you all know, they are not cheap so I really would like to make the right choice. What do you like about it? What issues have you had? What do you not like about it? Thanks. On a side note...I'm definitely a Jeep addict...Here I am researching mods for a jeep I haven't even found to buy YET. :-[
RACKMAN
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Buy Spinalguy's tj and you wont need a tire carrier!!!!!!
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Anyone running a Garvin tire carrier? I need honest feedback on this unit as it is one of a couple carriers I'm considering and as you all know, they are not cheap so I really would like to make the right choice. What do you like about it? What issues have you had? What do you not like about it? Thanks. On a side note...I'm definitely a Jeep addict...Here I am researching mods for a jeep I haven't even found to buy YET. :-[
RACKMAN
Pm Toys he has one on his Rubi
He told me he doesn't like the bolt style latch (pull pin unscrew bs) but it could be converted to a cam style latch :)
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Buy Spinalguy's tj and you wont need a tire carrier!!!!!!
No...definitely not interested in spending $30,000 on an 03 vehicle, plus I have very different build plans in mind.
RACKMAN
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Justin...I have one on my XJ . It's made "ruff and tuff" ... I like it... I have no issue with it and it's been on my Jeep for about a year. It's made to carry a 33" size tire. I had a 37" tire on it since it's been on the Heep.
I've heard people complaining about the latch for the swing arm of the tire carrier... that's what Toys (Murray) disliked about his. It's a screw type latch... I don't mind it. It takes longer to open but it's super solid.
bottom like ..so far so go... it's simple and super solid... Me LIKY!!! ;D
I hope that helps
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i've installed many of them. i also don't really like the screw latch, but like dom said it is solid. the other thing i've found is that the hinge seizes up. it isn't a bearing and there are no channels for the grease to go through. (unless they've changed it recently...) i've ground a few channels for the grease and it does seem to solve that issue, but a bearing would still be much better.
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Thanks for the info guys....BrokenAxle, I had no idea it wasn't a bearing...so is it some type of bushing set-up?
RACKMAN
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I what I plan on doing one day once the funds allow for it, is I'm going to buy a Warren rear bumper with out the tier carrier and then build my own tier carrier so it will be excitedly what I want. It may be a suggestion for you if you have access to fab equipment.
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Thanks for the info guys....BrokenAxle, I had no idea it wasn't a bearing...so is it some type of bushing set-up?
RACKMAN
Yep.. it's a poly bushing... mine greases well... I grease it when I have the tire carrier close and open. I grease up all my nipple quite fequently..., ON THE OL' HEEP (you dirty bastards! ;D) ...
It's been opening and closing well so far
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This is it right here eh? http://www.quadratec.com/products/12043_311_07.htm
Have you found a better price than this? let me know, its also on my wish list.
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No...definitely not interested in spending $30,000 on an 03 vehicle, plus I have very different build plans in mind.
RACKMAN
And as i have stated, this jeep is not for someone like rackman who will spend no more than 10 on a jeep and build it himself to his likings. He like others love the 'build' part. My jeep is for the guy that will spend 21 on a stock rubi with very low kms and for 9 extra, Rackman nor anyone else could build it out even close to what mine has. That is a fact for this 03 jeep ::)
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Just a heads up Spinalguy...I've already come across 3 stock 03 Rubi's for sale that were $17,500, $17,500, and $16,000 also with low kms. I contacted all of the owners to see it they were firm on their price and all indicated that they were open to offers. In the end, I made a decision to stay under $13,000 for a new project jeep base to work off of. I'm not looking to start a big debate about realistic pricing, but the bottom line is modded jeeps as with most vehicles are depreciating assets and as such, significant money cannot be recovered from the sale of such vehicles. Take my 98 TJ for example...Replacement cost at the time of sale was $50,000...I had it listed for $13,500 and didn't even get that. Your jeep is nice Spinalguy, but if I'm not mistaken you are still running the stock weak unit bearings on the front axle and the weak semi-floating rear axle...So the buyer of your jeep still has expenses to deal with on top of your asking price. Front hub conversions and rear full float kits are not cheap.
RACKMAN
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Tribal Jeep...is that a US price and company? I priced one out at National and they said it was $1000.00...maybe NSOR sells them too.
Dom, thanks for the info, but now I have scary mental pics of your nipples stuck in my head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RACKMAN
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Justin,
i have never said anything negative about your sales of ANYTHING on this site.
i am simply stating that you can not build my jeep for 30 using a stock rubi. period.
Don't tell me about your opinions ofWEAK parts, there are many built rubis that have stood the test of time. There is no need for replacement of front or rear. It is solid. i would go Dana 60 before i would touch the front or rear.
So, keep your petty bs to yourself.
Again, i was commenting that my jeep is NOT for you (compliment), but you will have more than 30 into anything you build to my specs.
Don't upset me off by taking shots at my jeep.
Thanks
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Tribal Jeep...is that a US price and company? I priced one out at National and they said it was $1000.00...maybe NSOR sells them too.
yea, the company is Quadratech. After much looking into prices and companies both US and Can, I am going with these guys as they seem to have better pricing most of the time and have almost all parts I am looking for. I find Canadian companies, no names, pricing is absolutely ridiculous more often than not; even after S&H. Though I am not a fan of having to go south of the border, for the big stuff, I cant justify spending big money here when it seems too overpriced.
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Tribal Jeep...wouldn't you be over the $1000.00 National quoted me after you have the carrier shipped here? If not, then what do you think you will be at cost wise if you go with Quadratech?
RACKMAN
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not 1000.
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Shipping, duty, and brokerage would put you just over 1100 from quadratech.
899 converted = 946
shipping 100$ (minimum)
GST 52
brokerage 55
total 1153
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well then. :-[
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try to get it from National for $1000 to $900... Try to deal with them... I usually try to build a relation with a shop and you'll see good deals coming across
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Swampsinger has so many parts on his Heep from National that he should own shares in the company :P
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Swampsinger has so many parts on his Heep from National that he should own shares in the company :P
You mean he doesn't :o ;D
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nope, but he did sell his soul to them for those prices...
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Thanks for the info guys...those that have this carrier, do any of you have the jerrycan carriers? I'd like to know if I need the basket to mount them or if the can carriers are mounted on the frame of the swingout itself? Also, did the weight of this unit cause you too lose suspension height? Did you need to add a coil spacer to restore ride height? Thanks.
RACKMAN
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Anybody?
RACKMAN
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Thanks for the info guys...those that have this carrier, do any of you have the jerrycan carriers? I'd like to know if I need the basket to mount them or if the can carriers are mounted on the frame of the swingout itself? Also, did the weight of this unit cause you too lose suspension height? Did you need to add a coil spacer to restore ride height? Thanks.
RACKMAN
I looked @ the garvin before I built mine
You don't need the rack to mount the jerry cans but if you have a hard top make sure you get the swing away passenger side can mount or you won't be able to open the hard top glass If I had bought the garvin I was going to add a grease fitting to the hinge and change the screw style latch to a cam lock style (http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/114/gfx/large/51335ac3l.gif)
But why spend a grand + than start cutting and changing it so I built from scratch
As for weight I find that it evened it out with the winch on the front
HTHs
Steve