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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Tribal Jeep on March 10, 2008, 06:46:04 PM

Title: Custom Siping
Post by: Tribal Jeep on March 10, 2008, 06:46:04 PM
 Anyone know where to get some siping done on tires?
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: TJ54 on March 10, 2008, 06:58:15 PM
a pack of razor blades and a case of beer and go to it.

I believe fountain tire on blackfoot trail can sipe tires, but they will have to be brand new. On used tires there can be rocks in the treads that will damage the blades on the siping machine.
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: Tribal Jeep on March 10, 2008, 08:39:30 PM
I mean like 3/8 - 1/2" wide cutting lugs in half with a hot siping knife kind of thing.
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: AV.NINE on March 10, 2008, 08:53:30 PM
Chewtoy off 4wheeler does it. (in rd though)
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: hps4evr on March 10, 2008, 09:24:39 PM
you need a grooving iron. i bought one from the tire supplier my old shop used. they go for about 150$ or so. it took me about 2.5 hours to do 4 33" tires. its fun... helped open up the tread for the mud. but make be sure you dont take too much off. i cut into the lugs on the edges of the tread and my side traction isnt as good.
if you cant find one let me know. ill lend it out for some cash if you're interested.
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: Tribal Jeep on March 10, 2008, 11:17:09 PM
GROOVING... thats the word I was looking for! Yea I'd love to get my paws on one.. I will look around, but if I cant find one I will definitely take you up on the rental offer by pm. Thanks!

By the way, what depth and width can you achieve with the grooving iron and does it have a couple different blade sizes?
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: 4PLAYZJ on March 11, 2008, 09:07:29 AM
I would take you up on a rental for your groover as well
Title: Re: Custom Siping
Post by: hps4evr on March 11, 2008, 08:02:14 PM
when you actually see a tire groover then it will make sense. but the blades are just V shaped and are clamped to the tip of the groove iron. which you plug into any regualr home outlet and it heats the tip and thus the blade. since the blade is V shaped the deeper you go the wider the groove, but at its widest its only about 3/8 or so. you can adjust the blade on the tip too to go deeper in the lugs. but i wouldnt get too close to the actual carcass of the tire. when i did mine i left about the thickness of the wear bars. so maybe 1/32 remaining on the carcass.
on a side note, the iron can be plugged into a household socket... but dont groove on your living room. its burnt rubber so it smells a little, and it leaves a bunch of rubber slivers all over the place.
pm if you guys want to borrow it. like i said, about half hour for a 33" tire. and i used about 1 blade for 2 tires.
pm me if you're interested or have questions:)