Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Coolhand Luke on September 21, 2005, 01:43:28 PM
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I have stock, except 30" BfG's Mt's, and was going to buy a winch. My good knowledgable off-road friend said I should get a susp. lift 1st. I always thought the first upgrades to do were tires then winch. What do you think, and where and what is the best lift to get. I was thinking 2-3".
The winch I was looking at (Costco 8000lbs) is under $500, so I know that if I get a lift it is more than that but how much more and of course bigger tires, so I'm looking at $1000's. What are the opinions and advice out there? Thanks.
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Need to know what vehicle the lift is for
Costco winches are cheap and they work but if you want quality go with Warn. You usually can find a used Warn for around $600-$1000, and if you want to best go with a Warn 8274.
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If you are running a smaller tire size I would go with a good, Warn winch, over bigger tires. I am only running 31's and my Warn 8274 is my lifeline. It is definatly a good investment. Bigger tires mean bigger stuck's and you need some way to get your jeep out.
That's my 2 cents
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Warn for around $600-$1000, and if you want to best go with a Warn 8274.
conjecture
My 9.5xp is the best.
:P
Luke... get the winch. Lift will mean more cash for tires, then you'll want a SYE and drive shaft. it is a steep and slippery and expensive slope. save up for the lift you want and research the heck out of it.
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Sorry the vehicle is 98 TJ 4L Sport. Thanks to all for re-confirming what I was thinking in the first place. It seems that when I am out on trails, in most situations, I find myself stopped not by the terrain or obstacle, its not having that reasurence of an escape. If I have a lift, I figure I will still feel the same way. I reckon I got 2 yrs left on my tires so maybe then I will look at upgrade and height. Winch it will be. By the way this winch will be coming compliments of Ralph Klein and the Government of Alberta.
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Warn for around $600-$1000, and if you want to best go with a Warn 8274.
conjecture
My 9.5xp is the best.
:P
If you would have had an 8274 you could have completely winch me down that rut, 8274 ALL THE WAY!!! :D
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I'm with you on the 8275 :D Best warn ever made 8)
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the 9.5xp is acutally faster under load than the 8274. I know you aren't going to believe me so check out the new edition of can4x4 mag. and as for that rut run, it had nothing to do with the winch.
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My 8274 is the best part of my truck. I'd find an old one and rebuild it rather than buy a new winch. I can't imagine anything faster (even though there could very well be!), but mines plenty fast enough, beat some newer warns out on the trail. Trust me, I end up winching myself a lot.
My two cents.
Darren :twisted:
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Bah, who cares about speed :wink:
I've got the slowest winch in town. Slow an steady thats what I say.
The 9.5 vs 8274 debate is kind of a waste. They are two different winches.
If you like unloaded insane spooling in and out speed.......8274
If you are more concerned with pulling speed...9.5
9.5 compact
82 blocks half your front end
9.5 100ft of cable
82, how much cable do you want on it
They are to different to ague about imo.
That costco one will work for the poster. Slow and steady, and a few guys here run them.
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Bill has the best winch of all :D
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fine bill.... you are right. you are always right. ;) ;)
i know it was a stupid argument... sometimes I just like to stir the pot once ina while and see who's feathers get ruffled. :lol:
besides, my shovel is nicer.
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fine bill.... you are right. you are always right. ;) ;)
i know it was a stupid argument... sometimes I just like to stir the pot once ina while and see who's feathers get ruffled. :lol:
besides, my shovel is nicer.
haha,
me too
stir stir
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the 9.5xp is acutally faster under load than the 8274.
bs on that, compare a 05 winch to a 05 winch i.e. 9.5 to the 8274-50. and maybe at >= 8000lbs the 9.5 is faster. but for MOST PULLS (<= 6000lbs) the up right kicks its ... Especially if you pump 24V through it.
note #1) I have a 9.5TI and love it. It's lighter, lower and can pull a heavier load if needed. The extra 25tf of cable would be nice but I haven't needed it yet.
note #2) the 8274-50 is too dam fast! It's tough to time the respool properly so you don't rip off a tow hook or pull the winch hook right through the fairlead.
note #3) don't wheel alone and have your own winch!
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note #2) the 8274-50 is too dam fast! It's tough to time the respool properly so you don't rip off a tow hook or pull the winch hook right through the fairlead.
Thats the only problem I have with my 8274. Other than that its great.
Darren 8)
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I love the extra 25' because i have had to do a 170' pull. The 8274 may be slow at load and I have been there many times as well but the winch will just keep pulling and pulling and not overheat. I know a guy that is using a 40 year old 8274 and it works great.
In my mind, the only winch to get.
Finally, I think we have hijacked this thread enough, now to find another thread to hijack
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i have had to do a 170' pull.
What winch will let you do a 170' pull???
Also that fast no line speed really help when you try driving out while you are winching and catch some traction...
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i have had to do a 170' pull.
What winch will let you do a 170' pull???
Can fit 200 plus feet on a an 82's drum.
Those and oldschool ramseys.
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:8 what size of rope are you using, 1/4"?
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Finally, I think we have hijacked this thread enough, now to find another thread to hijack
LOL.... :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol:
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i have had to do a 170' pull.
What winch will let you do a 170' pull???
Can fit 200 plus feet on a an 82's drum.
Those and oldschool ramseys.
150' of cable and a strap, and had zero problems with overheating.