Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Giffer on May 06, 2008, 10:05:39 PM
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http://gmperformancepartszone.com/crate-engines-chevy-smallblock-c-1_2.html
i think its the only way to go! ive decided not to go for tires bigger then 35 for now but i still need more power!! so looks like im going to go with a crate. it wont be for a couple of months but im going to get all the parts together before i start, my jeep is also my daily driver, so it needs to be on the road for now.
but anyone here done a v8 conversion??? ive heard that the 350 will bolts into the ax15, no i dont believe everything i hear, but still might as well ask.
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How big did you want to go with your tires? Keep in mind some of the clubs are starting to limit tire size allowed of their members. The FWS are at 37" I think, and one of the CJA meetings they where talking about keeping it at 40" max... could be wrong, but may want to check on those things before settling on the tire size.
Anybody confirm these?
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This website will show all the adapters for the conversion.
http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/kit_gmax15.htm
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[quote clubs are starting to limit tire size allowed of their members
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Thats gay! If clubs start limiting tires now then it'll be something else later like no V8 engine followed by no 1 Ton axles untill all the little whiners are happy no ones got a better jeep then them.
Just my 2 cent
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Are clubs going to limit the smaller tires that dig deep into the mud because they have a smaller surface area?
Age old debate.....
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Thats gay! If clubs start limiting tires now then it'll be something else later like no V8 engine followed by no 1 Ton axles untill all the little whiners are happy no ones got a better jeep then them.
Just my 2 cent
lol! x2
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im just going to stick with my 35's for now. maybe one day all decide to go bigger but until then i get need a little bit more power. not much more, but some. lol
now im just wondering about going with a carbed system or an efi. i dont know where to start on an efi system but im thinking the the route i should go. any ideas on that one?? and thanks rws that was exactly what i was looking for.
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Four Wheel Stampeders has had a 40" tire limit for a couple years now. There are a few reasons for it. 40" is kind of a magic number where once you reach that point your rig is no longer "trail rig" but more of a hardcore machine(big axles, HP to turn it.....) more suited to competion.
We have found that all the trails in Waiporous/Mclean/Dutch Creek/Indian Graves that we have done can be handled with a 35" tire. 90% can be negotiated with 31s and a winch. I know I've done it. You just have to be ok with the fact that you cann't make it thru every hole or even turn turn back. To build a rig that can simply leads to bigger holes and trail blazing of new trails. You get bored of the regular trails and start looking for new stuff.
The simplist way of dealing with it was to implement a tire restriction. 40" was picked as that seems to a natural break when you go from simply modified to wild. As well a few members were currently running 39's so this didn't exclude anyone.
This also keeps all over our members on the same level. Clubs in the past have fractured due to the "big" guys getting fed up with having to wait for the "newbies". Some clubs in the past have even considered having a "minimum" tire restriction so I really don't think that a max tire size is all that crazy.
It also shows SRD that we are trying to take measures to reduce our impact on the trails. Like it or not the bigger your rig is the more SRD frowns .
As to HP on a trail rig... HP has absoultly ZERO to do with how capable a trail rig is. Proper gearing will take you much farther on an obstacle than big HP. I did all the big name trails in Moab last year with my stock 4.0L, 5.38s gears and 36" tires and never felt the need for more HP. Neither did the two Toyota pickups with 4 bangers and 38s. Last year at High Riders Jenssen placed second with an XJ and a 4.0L. The only time I've felt the need for more HP is running on the highway.
Big HP with 40+ tires say only one thing to me.... mud boggin, sorry but those days are gone.....
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Are clubs going to limit the smaller tires that dig deep into the mud because they have a smaller surface area?
Age old debate.....
You can only dig so deep then you are sitting on your axles. :P
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What I am going o do spent the money on gearing first and then on HP.
I don't know what you have now. But have you considered Supercharging instead of RE and RE. Their are some relay good kits to superchanges and their are some relay crappy ones, you need to do your research. If you are going with the V8 go with EFI you don't have to ever worry about losing fuel and stalling when off camber. Their are several crate engines available that have all the computers bolted on and hidden in several places. all you need to do is atach the red and black and turn the key. AEV has a Hemi kit of the TJs as well
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Well said Clay.
Thanks for that.
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Well i'll agree with clay on most parts, but i've ran wide 33 inch boggers on my jeep for a couple years with a stock inline six .And i'll tell ya i made much more of an inpack than any street /mud tire out there!!! Does that mean we should ban any aggressive tire out there ????????????????????????
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Guys this is a Technical Forum, please stop hijacking this thread or take it to a different section
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Well i'll agree with clay on most parts, but i've ran wide 33 inch boggers on my jeep for a couple years with a stock inline six .And i'll tell ya i made much more of an inpack than any street /mud tire out there!!! Does that mean we should ban any aggressive tire out there ????????????????????????
Get over it
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math does not lie with my 46x22 ag tires I have a psi of 2.3 on the ground smaller tires means more digging and more destruction just look at what a mess the quads do. Those guys do more damage off line than on as they sneak through trees. I am not saying anything new here but dont discount the big tires.
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well to get back on track. im going to go with a carb. holley makes one for off roading. its the truck avenger. i know a buddy who has one and says its great. it advertises
flood free operation while at 40 degrees up hill climbing, 30 during side hills, and 30 degrees down hill.
im looking at a 670cfm and off of summitracing there around $500CDN to my door. which is alot cheaper then finding an efi engine or doing an EFI conversion which is around $2000 for the kit from holley.
and about bigger tires.... i love them.
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do you have a 258 now cause a 360 amc would be a lot cheaper way to go than a cheby if you are going carbed. All you would need is the v-8 motor mounts everything else is a bolt on no adapters needed and in stock form the 360 has more power than a 350.
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well ive got the 350 out of my old chevy, so a free engine. i tore it all apart and im just some new heads, lifters, rv camp, new valves, ect. this was all stuff i wanted to do and then put back into the truck but im thinking ill just throw my 454, after all the goodies are in it of course, back into the chev. so i have an engine already. and im not going to lie... im a gm guy. i love the 350.