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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: TheCaptain on August 13, 2008, 08:24:01 PM

Title: Clutch replacement
Post by: TheCaptain on August 13, 2008, 08:24:01 PM
Has anyone any experience in replacing a clutch?  I think mine needs it...
Wondering how tough of a job is it if I grab the parts etc.
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: frenchy on August 13, 2008, 08:38:48 PM
It can be a pain without a tranny jack, I've used 2 big floor jacks to do mine, twice. Not ideal, but it worked.

First couple of times might be tricky to line up tranny shaft into the right spot...
But really, it's just all bolts to remove and then put back on !  :)

PS. don't forget,  start with the Interior parts  ;)
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Tinkerer on August 13, 2008, 08:57:31 PM
I haven't checked it out, but have the factory service manual for my '04 TJ Rubicon (covers all models).  Might be informative :)  I'd like to see/participate as I know it will need doing on mine eventually, probably the throwout bearing before the clutch tho :D

Let me know if you want to have a peek  etc.



Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Duncan71 on August 13, 2008, 09:49:50 PM
one tip i might suggest is when removing the motor, use a block of wood and a scissor jack to support the motor so that it doesnt change angle, then take three measurements 1 from the bellhousing, 1 from the tail shaft, and one from the tail shaft to the frame rail, that way when you reinstall you will have a pretty good idea of where things need to be!
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: RUBI on August 13, 2008, 10:31:36 PM
I'd be more inclined to remove the trans/T case than the motor .....to much crap to R & R  pullin the motor.
 My 2 cents  ;)
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: BlackYJ on August 14, 2008, 07:15:45 AM
Also I would leave the tranny in gear and t-case in 4 HI.  Reason beign that when you go to put the tranny back on, if the splines do not match up, you can turn the front yoke to line them up.

Definitely get a tranny jack if possible and just remove the tranny and t-case as a unit.  If you do this, use a coffee cup with a rag or something to cover the output housing on the t-case so you don't loose at the fluid
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: sylvrinvader on August 14, 2008, 06:44:54 PM
i need to do mine as well is there anybody that can maybe help us both. i have no problem supplying pizza and beer as well. im also very mechanicly inclined to do the work i just need someone with the brains and knowledge
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: TheCaptain on August 14, 2008, 08:04:26 PM
i need to do mine as well is there anybody that can maybe help us both. i have no problem supplying pizza and beer as well. im also very mechanicly inclined to do the work i just need someone with the brains and knowledge

Ditto  ;D
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Tinkerer on August 14, 2008, 08:46:58 PM
I'm sensing the coming together of a "clutch party"... tho the beer might make each subsequent replacement go more slowly and more troublesome :)

Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: sylvrinvader on August 14, 2008, 09:09:57 PM
ok beer is for end of the dayish
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Duncan71 on August 15, 2008, 04:08:04 AM
I am not a licensed mechanic, but recently did the clutch and hydraulics in my jeep (92) and would be more than happy to come over and run through everything.  Also, if anyone needs ideas, feel free to PM me, and Ill give out my phone number as talking is a lot easier than these forums.
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Duncan71 on August 15, 2008, 04:08:52 AM
I'd be more inclined to remove the trans/T case than the motor .....to much crap to R & R  pullin the motor.
 My 2 cents  ;)

Rubi, I dont know if this was a response to my comment, but i wouldnt pull the engine, just secure it, then take measurements to make reinstall easier.
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: TheCaptain on August 15, 2008, 06:10:58 PM
I'm not near my Haynes manual or my Jeep at the moment to have a look, but would it be possible to replace the rear main seal once you've got the tranny loose from the engine etc.?  I'm guessing yes but figured this would be the place to ask.  ;D

Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Duncan71 on August 15, 2008, 07:05:30 PM
Ya, once the flywheel is off, and the oil pan comes off you need to pull the bearing cap, and its relavtively simple from there
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: TheCaptain on August 15, 2008, 11:13:53 PM
Good to know.  I priced that job up plus the clutch and the cost came just shy of a grand...  :o

Big job.

Anyone got a good line on where to pick up new clutches?
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Duncan71 on August 16, 2008, 03:10:22 PM
Auto value and part zone are usually the cheapest.  the kit is probably gonna be around 300 or so, thenanother 100 for machining the flywheel.
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: sylvrinvader on August 16, 2008, 03:58:15 PM
are the clutches good there cause i was told if im going too keep hittn mud and water that i should not waist my money on a centerforce
Title: Re: Clutch replacement
Post by: Tinkerer on August 17, 2008, 08:06:35 AM
After some of what I've been reading, if there is much water 'n mud involved, those little counterweights tend to get sticky and cause problems... but that's not personal experience, so interpret with that in mind.