Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: dac on March 05, 2009, 02:00:41 PM
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I'm thinking it's about time I get a winch, NSOR has the warn m8000 on for $725 which sounds like a good deal. Is it overkill/underkill? Most places I've called try and push the $1600 warns (9.5ti, m8274... which are nice but a little expensive).
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I love the 8274s because they are an awesome winch, but the m8000 and an excellent winch for the price. The m8000 has been around for a long time and it is still a great winch. The only downfall with it, is that is only comes with either 80' or 100' of cable
For the price, I would not hesitate. Or look at the classified because sometimes there are great deals on winches
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You should be able to find a really good used 8274 for $700.
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Or a used 9.5ti for about the same price.
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i use a xd9000 winch. worked awesome the one and only time i used it. then it just sat on the front of my jeep lookin good. just before winter i cleaned it up and gave it a shot. worked again without a hitch. warn is the way to go.
a few years ago i was wheeling in snow with some friends. i got stuck, one buddy tried pulling me out with a strap, he got stuck. budy number 3 pulled both of us through 2 feet of snow about 50 feet with his m8000 winch. same buddy a few weeks later dragged his jeep strapped to mine about 300 feet through snow. pulls were back to back as we would winch till we could hook to the next tree. but that m8000 never gave up.
M8000 for 725$ will be the best 725$ you will ever spend on your jeep:)
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8274 for $800
http://forum.calgaryjeep.com/index.php?topic=11217.0
XD9000 for $800
http://forum.calgaryjeep.com/index.php?topic=11285.msg67764#msg67764
I used to have an MX8000.. older model then M8000... it worked great..
Now I have an XD9000 ... i didn't use it much but so far, I'm happy...
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I can get a warn tabor 9K , new for $900
Or a milemarker 8K for $725 as well
Or a Suoerwinch LP8500 for $685
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I can get a warn tabor 9K , new for $900
Or a milemarker 8K for $725 as well
Or a Suoerwinch LP8500 for $685
I have a Superwinch I have had for several years and it has been worked very hard with no complaints.
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Here is a link to a comparison done in the last few years.
http://www.moabjeeper.com/articles/general/listing.cfm?articleID=353
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You can get this one at Princess auto for $799 and it is wayyy better than the m8000
http://www.superwinch.com/EPi9_9_000_lbs.html (http://www.superwinch.com/EPi9_9_000_lbs.html)
(http://www.superwinch.com/UserFiles/Image/epi9LG.jpg)
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That superwinch looks pretty good. I like the idea of the low profile as to not block airflow. That and Princess auto is on the way home from work ;D
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Personally I prefer the M8.
For relatively the same cost, you get a winch that has cheap parts, and is twice as fast as all those off brands.
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you get a winch that has cheap parts
I sold my old winch on a buddy and it was cracked in a few places (my dog is overweight... that's why I got a 9000 now) ... buddy got parts and rebuild it all. It was surprisingly very cheap...
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You could try the Titan Winches out:
http://titanwinches.webs.com/tw1010000lbwinch.htm
One of the members in our club has one and has been very happy with it so far. Very decent pricing and seems to be a good quality unit. Lots of guys on Jeepkings have picked one up and love them. The owner Duncan also has a 12000lbs model with built in compressor. That will be my next winch.
Jeepkings thread about the Titan:
http://www.jeepkings.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=79598
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Here's my $0.02
I don't pretend to have the same level of experience off-roading as some of the other folks here, but I've spent a lot of time winching one-ton trucks out of places they shouldn't have been in to start with :o
Personally, I've only ever used Warn products. I've seen 12,000 pound Warn winches stand up to year after year of abuse in the oilpatch. I've even seen someone use a couple of bare wires stuck into the controller port on the winch to hot-wire the winch after the controller got destroyed (don't even bother asking about how that happened >:()
I own a Warn, and would buy one again. I'm not saying that other brands aren't worth trying...but for my money, they're the brand that has earned my trust.
After all...I like hiking, but not enough to want to walk out.
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I run this one
You can get this one at Princess auto for $799 and it is wayyy better than the m8000
http://www.superwinch.com/EPi9_9_000_lbs.html (http://www.superwinch.com/EPi9_9_000_lbs.html)
(http://www.superwinch.com/UserFiles/Image/epi9LG.jpg)
Have used it a few times.... through 3 ft deep mud, and 4 ft of snow, no problems to report. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
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fyi Princess auto has discontinued the superwinch epi9.0 for all those who were wondering
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A while ago I aquired a beat-up, bent outta shape, superwinch 8500,.. I re and re'd the best I could, and put on a snatch-block and it still works.
Pulled a lifted XJ on 33's last summer buried up to the doors in mud and just recently pulled me out of a crotch deep predicament.
I know my winch is old and to maximize the old faithfuls power I used a snatch block/hook,.. a worthy investment and theoretically doubles the pulling power, but the downside is it shortens the pulling length.
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Canadian Tire usually has the Superwinch LP8500 for a regular price of $399 with a Hawse fairlead. I've seen it on sale there for $350 at times. I have one and it's been great so far, it sure beats those Champion winches at Costco.
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Sometimes a snatch block is a good way to go ;D
#1. You're reducing the load on the cable (this is assuming that you're not trying pulls that wouldn't be possible with a single line). Yes, I know that the spot where the cable curves around the sheave is a weak spot by definition, but I'm assuming that sheave size has been selected appropriately for cable diameter.
#2. You're getting more cable off the drum. As long as you don't get carried away, that puts leverage on your side (and the side of your winch motor) compared to what it would be if you were working on one of the outer wraps. Yes, your line speed drops, but we're not in a winch race here ;)
#3. Doing these things keeps the actual load on your winch somewhat lighter, and the current drain on your electrical system lower.
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Canadian Tire has a Superwinch 8500 regular price $399.00
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Canadian Tire usually has the Superwinch LP8500 for a regular price of $399 with a Hawse fairlead. I've seen it on sale there for $350 at times. I have one and it's been great so far, it sure beats those Champion winches at Costco.
Just watch running that hawse fairlead with a steel cable. It won't stand up to the abuse that a roller fairlead will.
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Chances are the winch isn't in the budget for this month, I'll probably end up getting the warn dx90000i or something like that. The nice thing about the superwinch was the brake was not in the drum so if a guy ever wanted, changing out to synthetic rope would be easy; that and I read the cable tie-in the the drum was simple.
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If you can figure out a wrench, you can figure out tying a cable into the drum - on pretty much any winch. Superwinch's advantage is that if you make a boo-boo on the trail and pull your cable off the drum by over-extending it or it breaks and you need to pull off the stub and re-attach, their method of attachment makes that process easier. It's a nice bonus, but not a night and day difference.
Changing to synthetic on any winch is a good idea. The only time that the brake being in the drum is an issue is if you're "powering out" under load for a long enough period of time to allow heat to build up. If that ends up being a situation that you anticipate, then you can get sythetic winchline that has a heat-resistant portion.
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Just watch running that hawse fairlead with a steel cable. It won't stand up to the abuse that a roller fairlead will.
I didn't use the Hawse, I have a roller instead. :P
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After seeing a winch cable get ruined because it got pinched between vertical and horizontal rollers I've stayed away from them. Never had a problem hawse fairleads and have not noticed any ill effects from running one and have never worn one out.
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Well, serves me right. Picked up the princess auto superwinch last weekend and finally took it out of the box today. The case below the release was broken. :-\ So much for trying to save a few bucks.
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PA's return policy is pretty good ... I would think returning it shouldn't be an issue
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Measure twice, buy once..... WARN!