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Title: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on July 05, 2010, 11:37:30 PM
1999 Cherokee Sport auto
RE 3.5" superflex lift, on 31" Goodyear Territory rubber.
acos, RE shackles, rocky road outfitters OTT steering, drop brackets, brink fab bumper.

first the Rocky Roar Outfitters Over the top steering upgrade, it was a pain in the neck to install, nothing fit right, grinding and cutting and bashing required haha. it works ok, keeps everything out of harms way, better than stock.

This pic is after 3.5" RE lift and 32" procomp MT's
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/relift.jpg)

stock steering
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1252.jpg)

bracket install
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1257.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1258.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1279.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1289.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1290.jpg)

finished install
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1292.jpg)

ACOS install gave me an added 1.5" of lift so i also had to add some RE shackles in the rear to level it all out
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1240.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1242.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1247.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Jeep%20mods/DSCN1251.jpg)

i've bought the bumper from someone a while back, had it installed for a few years, but had to redo the mounting brackets as ive almost tore my steering box out on the last trip out.

i have re-inforced the frame with the JKS steering brace, cut new mounts out of 1/4" plate, cut old ones off, re-welded and cut off a few inches from the bumper so that is does not stick out like bubba gump lip.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3895.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3889.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3891.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3892.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3893.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3890.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3897.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3899.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3900.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/DSCN3903.jpg)

more to come
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 05, 2010, 08:57:53 PM
Well, time to get the old RE lift off and build some long arms. Started with fabing up a cross member out of 5x2x1/4" square tube and some 1/4" plate

Frame mount
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM2.jpg)

x-member which will be welded to the frame mounts tommorow.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM3.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 06, 2010, 09:09:11 PM
got a little bit more done on the cross member
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM5.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM4.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 08, 2010, 01:50:49 PM
Got it all welded up and bolted up, now just need to fab up the mounts for the control arms to the cross member and make the middle section of the cross member removable, so that the t-case can be removed without disconecting the long arms.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM6.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM7.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM8.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Tyn Pow on September 13, 2010, 09:10:52 PM
Looking good man, nice work.  I was wondering what your plans for the x-member were.

What's the plan - radius arms, 3 link or 4 link?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 14, 2010, 09:31:20 AM
the plans are to 4-link it, i'll be finishing up the mounts this week hopefully if  get some free time.  Finished making the center section to be removable and started measuring and figuring out the angle of the lower Control arm mounts.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM9.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/CM10.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 06, 2010, 04:29:55 PM
some bling bling arrived. change of plans for the red xj. front and rear axles, 31" tire and rims, 3.5" RE lift, ACOS, and a set of 35" tires and 4.88 gears are all going up for sale in the next few weeks, as soon as i take them off the xj.

d44 and d60 are going in over the winter.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/balisticjoint.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/balisticjoint2.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: mhernden on November 12, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
I happen to be looking to buy a set of ACOS for my 99 Red XJ...     ;D
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 19, 2010, 06:06:11 PM
the teardown has began, the running gear is all out. and the fun starts with removing the stock control arm mounts to start preparing the frame for stiffening.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_2879.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_2881.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Brink on December 05, 2010, 09:29:41 PM
Looking good Raf

Give me a call about the shocks PM you sent

Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on January 19, 2011, 09:13:19 AM
small update, i started on plating the unirails. i wanted to go 3/16 on the front outside and bottom, but its too dificult to bend it so I used 1/8" and will do 3/16 on the inside, then will continue the rest of the way to the back with 3/16. I will try to finish plating the front this weekend so that i can start on the suspention and d44 install.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3152.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3153.jpg)

will need more than just fender trimming to fit the 36" IROK's. the wheelbase will be around 112"

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3156.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: halfcRoOk on January 21, 2011, 02:13:24 PM
Thats pretty sick dude! i like the 36" but since im just in my first 3 months of owning my first XJ, i wont be doing 36" just yet!! How did you like your RE super flex 3.5"? did u do any modification to your axel like shims or longer driveshaft to eliminate driveshaft vibration? and would you recommend the 3.5" RE super flex?

Thanks
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on January 22, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
Thats pretty sick dude! i like the 36" but since im just in my first 3 months of owning my first XJ, i wont be doing 36" just yet!! How did you like your RE super flex 3.5"? did u do any modification to your axel like shims or longer driveshaft to eliminate driveshaft vibration? and would you recommend the 3.5" RE super flex?

Thanks

The RE superflex worked ok for me, there is better lift kits out there. I did add 6* shims in the rear, SYE eliminator Double Cardan driveshaft, for the front i added drop brackets for better control arm angles/geometry which pushed the front axle back to stock location, with out the drop brackets the front axle will come back a bit and cause your front coil to sit wrong, bent back.

if i was going to do it again, I would go with a good long arm kit from the start either a 3-link or 4-link. avoid radius arms they give poor geometry. some will disagree with me on radius arm comment, but thats a topinc on its own. post up and search on recomended Xj suspention, you will get lost of good sugestions.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on April 02, 2011, 08:17:48 PM
well I've decided plating the unibody rails is a waste of time for me and lots of hours. so I cut them out and took them to the scrap yard.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3300.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3297.jpg)

so I started to fabricate a frame to fit under the xj body.
test fitting
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG00014-20110402-1715.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3313.jpg)

both rails cut and bent and tack welded. once i get it all squared up and test fitted to make sure everything is good and straight ill weld it all up. Thanks for your help Trevor.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3329.jpg)

still need to measure out the cross members tack it all together, test fit some more before final welds are done.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/IMG_3328.jpg)

believe it or not its less work to build this frame than plate the whole uni-rails and it's less weight as well.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: w squared on April 02, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
You are aware that is soon as you attach real frame rails to that thing, it stops being an XJ and becomes a modified YJ with a malfunctioning hard top, right?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on April 02, 2011, 09:59:32 PM
You are aware that is soon as you attach real frame rails to that thing, it stops being an XJ and becomes a modified YJ with a malfunctioning hard top, right?

lol i got nothing, no comback for that burn. damn
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Waytec on April 02, 2011, 10:35:14 PM
well if you are building a fame it would be very easy to stuff a different engine in there. please tell us you are going with something other then the 4.0L
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vinman on April 02, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
That real frame is cool, how do you plan on fastening the body to it? Are you going to weld it to the frame or are you going to fab some body mounts and attach it like a traditional body on frame?

Vince
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on April 03, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
well if you are building a fame it would be very easy to stuff a different engine in there. please tell us you are going with something other then the 4.0L

well I will have plenty of room for an LS1 or and LQ9, but for now the 4.0L has to go in until I can find one of the engines mentioned for reasnoable price with a full harness and ECU. the LS1 is 25lbs lighter than the 4.0 and the LQ9 is 10lbs heavier than the 4.0. i think they are the best candidates.

as for the body Im thinking hard mounted/welded body mounts.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on May 20, 2011, 08:51:50 PM
small update, i got everything square and tacked together, test fitted. its ready for final welding.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/frame11.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/frame12.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/frame13.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/frame14.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/frame15.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on May 22, 2011, 12:28:19 AM
Make a jig an sell those suckers Raf!!! Not that us XJ guys need real frames of course.... ;) Coming along really nicely since I last saw it :)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on July 14, 2011, 07:49:04 PM
update, I had some time to finish welding the main part of the frame, minus some gussets and brackets.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/fishplates.jpg)

i have the frame under the xj now, its all aligned i'm just waiting for my body mounts to arrive so i can attach it to the body.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/test6.jpg)

also mocked up the rear axle with the tires on it to see the fitment.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/test5.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/test3.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/test2.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/test1.jpg)

next update I hope to have both axles in and ready to start my 4-link suspention.

Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: bRIBEGuy on July 16, 2011, 08:07:39 AM
So awesome........

 :)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: BEZZ on July 20, 2011, 10:31:13 AM
Forget the XJ put the mini-van on that frame and axle setup!

Looks good buddy!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 10, 2011, 08:43:12 PM
got the body sitting on the frame now waiting on body mounts to show up.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/xj1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/xj2.jpg)

Made up motor mounts and installed the motor. still need to fab up a cross-member for the transmission.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/xj5.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/xj3.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/Fabricating/xj4.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on September 11, 2011, 12:06:41 AM
Daaamn! Coming along nicely Raf!! Cant wait to get out there again soon to see the progress in persson! :D
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: OnyxGrizzly on September 14, 2011, 08:20:21 AM
Bring me along please! haha :O
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Rubi03 jef on September 14, 2011, 10:54:01 AM
fricken awesome .. this things going to be awesome
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 18, 2011, 06:12:00 AM
the jeep is all leveled out on stands and finally I got the D60 under the xj, set in place ready to start the triangulated 4-link build. The front axle is pushed forward 4" and rear will be pushed back 5" for a 110" wheel base. I'm trying to build it so that later I can go up to 40" rubber.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/d60_4.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/d60_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: bRIBEGuy on November 20, 2011, 09:06:25 AM
I'm trying to build it so that later I can go up to 40" rubber.

40" on an XJ?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E!

This is a really cool build to be watching.  REALLY makes me wish I could weld........
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 20, 2011, 09:26:52 AM
40" on an XJ?


well 39.5" IROK's and If I go with a different tire brand it would be 40's. with the 36" IROK's it just looks to small for this build and the 39's will accomondate the 110" wheel base better.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: w squared on November 20, 2011, 04:32:55 PM
40" on an XJ?

It's not actually an XJ anymore. As soon as Raf built a frame for it, it became a YJ. Now he just needs to fix the hard top so that it is easier to take off.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on January 08, 2012, 09:27:10 PM
I had to redo the motor mounts, I did not like the bastard version I had where it bolted through the frame, so here is an updated version. also got the front drive shaft in and made up my Long arm links. And started mounting the body with 1" body mounts from a CJ7.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/motormount.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/D60_5.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/IMG_7187.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on January 09, 2012, 10:54:50 AM
Ohhh Raf... you know how we feel about body lifts... ESPECIALLY on an XJ....  ::)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on January 23, 2012, 10:31:44 AM
Got the lower links all tacked in. Now working on the upper links, I got the front truss/link mount tube bent up, just need to install it maybe tonight.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/lowr_links1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/lowr_links2.jpg)

and the 4-link nymbers
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front4linknumbers.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on January 27, 2012, 06:36:24 PM
so i got the upper links finished today.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links2.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links3.jpg)

came to a clerance issue with driveshaft and upper link. I will need a 2" body lift and I will need to raise the uppers about 1" up higher than they are. I ordered some browndog motor mounts which lift the motor up 1" easier than redoing the motor mounts again.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links4.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links5.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links6.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/links7.jpg)

lots of tedious work of getting it right.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Rubi03 jef on January 27, 2012, 07:01:15 PM
looking sick

damn nice work
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: AstraX on January 27, 2012, 07:43:34 PM
I wan't your garage...

Nice looking project as well.  Can't wait to see it rolling.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on February 29, 2012, 06:25:51 PM
Small update. Had some time in the garage today. I started on the rear suspension. I got the skid all tacked together and bolted up ready to start on the rear link mounts.

Drilled holes in the frame, and welded in dom tube inserts (crush sleave) this is where the skid/cross-member bolts onto, did this for the front and rear of the skid.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/hole1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/hole2.jpg)

and the skid, which will be plated with 1/8" plate with dimples for strength.

21" belly clerance

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid1.jpg)

got the rear links all cut to length

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rearlinks.jpg)

I also wanted to share some tips and tricks when welding.

A great way to weld up holes or in my case two pices of angled 1/4 plate. is to use some brass.

In order to weld these two pices of metal together with a flat surface on the inside, I used some 2" brass plate.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/mount3.jpg)

clamped it all together to give me my 2" inside width, clamped the brass plate and welded it all up

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/mount4.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/mount5.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/mount6.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/mount1.jpg)

and the final result is a welded mount with a flat even weld on the inside that does not require grinding, which would be almost impossible.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/mount2.jpg)

this trick works great when you want to weld up holes.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Rubi03 jef on February 29, 2012, 06:55:44 PM
nice work .. looking sick
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on March 08, 2012, 07:29:13 PM
i got some holes in the floor

I got the rear links all tacked/welded up. Time to close up the holes in the floor and reinforce the floor a bit

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/floor1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/floor2.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rearlink2.jpg)

rear at full bump

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rearlink1.jpg)

once i get the floor done i'll move onto the rear coilovers
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on March 12, 2012, 05:07:29 PM
Started setting up my coilovers

This is at full compression with 36" iroks, 39.5" will be going in instead.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/IMG_7489.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/IMG_7491.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/IMG_7490.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/IMG_7492.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on March 18, 2012, 07:05:59 PM
Re did the front 4-link, and With Trevors help installed coilovers in the front.

All links and coilovers are finally installed, suspension flexed to check for any binding and interference. So Now it needs to be all welded up, and gustets installed.

At ride height with 36's.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rideheight.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rearlink4.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/frontlink4.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/frontlink1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/fox1.jpg)

Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Uboatcmdr on March 18, 2012, 07:55:30 PM
Depending on what you have access too a piece of aluminum will also work for that welding trick.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on March 18, 2012, 08:07:26 PM
Depending on what you have access too a piece of aluminum will also work for that welding trick.

yup it sure will
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Uboatcmdr on March 19, 2012, 08:12:41 PM
Ill put the captain obvious costume away  :(
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 05, 2012, 09:10:56 AM
your front 4 link looks alot more kickass now Raf, hella cool.  looks like you guys have put in a bunch of time to make it work.

does the driveshaft clear?  now you just need to hook up the RAM!  or is that done too?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on April 05, 2012, 11:34:06 AM
yeah I have spent alot of time making sure my from geometry is correct and making sure everything clears, i made my upper links longer, same length as lowers and made sure my link seperation is accurate to have almost no pinion angle change as it moves along its arc, i went through 4 revisions on the front to make it work and to clear my oil pan. At full droop and full compression and flexed out everywhich way, the DS clears by 2" now I just need to mount my full hydro steering, get my bump stops and limiting straps all set up, finish welding everything up, take the body off and either powder coat or pour15 the frame. I just need to save some money to get all the rest of the parts.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on July 28, 2012, 02:37:37 PM
had couple day free to work on the xj, so I went and picked up a 5.3L with 4L60E. Removed the 4.0L. old motor mounts chopped off, new ones made up and engine sitting in its new home.


(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/IMG_8808.jpg)

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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 23, 2012, 04:18:08 PM
Waiting on advance adapters 4L60E to NP231 adapter. due to the 5.3L in there some changes to the front link suspension will need to be made, but while i'm waiting for the adapter to come in. I ordered up some TMR Customs 4-link brackets and installed them onto the cross member. also started to work on the rockers. they will be welded in to where the existing rocker was and bolted to the frame.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/4linkbracket2_zpsaee1c419.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rockers1_zps4deea72a.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/rockers2_zps54d01976.jpg)

1.75" tube kickers will be welded to the new rockers.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on October 19, 2012, 09:36:49 PM
Hey Raf, since you havent updated in a while, I have to assume you have scrapped your suspension idea for a more easy to maintain leafspring setup, and the jeep looks more similar to this now?
just make sure you address that terrible drive line angle... That thing has gotta bring all the boys to the yard with its milk shaking capabilities....
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4513/3k43p13lc5z55p35r2b6t55.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on October 23, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
i sure did, i'm going leaf's all around, and I solved my drive line angle issue by removing my drive shafts
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: w squared on October 28, 2012, 06:40:11 AM
With the clearance offered by that much lift and the superior technology of leaf springs, you can just bolt a 4 banger from a TJ directly to each axle. No driveshafts, no u-joints...no worries!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on October 29, 2012, 04:30:28 PM
time to build some x-members to mount the 4-bangers as Todd mentioned ;P

well tools came in, now i have the freedom to bend all i want.

Its a Baileigh RDB-050 it can bend 2" 0.120 wall manualy full 180 degrees with out the need to reposition the pin.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/BaileighRDB050_1.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/BaileighRDB050.jpg)

and a sweet notcher Baileigh TN250

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/BaileighTN250.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 11, 2012, 09:29:08 PM
well all I got done is welded in my rock sliders and adapted the NP231 to the 4L60E and tripple checked front link geometry with driveshaft in place to make sure all clears.



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/slider7.jpg)

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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: tubby on November 11, 2012, 11:23:42 PM

Great work Raf!

All this downtime with working on your rig this past year , must make you itch real bad to go wheeling again?

Are you planning on boatsiding  from the rockers to the frame?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 12, 2012, 06:36:11 AM
Great work Raf!

All this downtime with working on your rig this past year , must make you itch real bad to go wheeling again?

Are you planning on boatsiding  from the rockers to the frame?

i've been itching to go wheeling for a long time. The plan is to do boatsides as you mentioned, I was planning to do it before I leave, but my dimple dies did not shop up.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: midnightcowboy on November 12, 2012, 10:47:57 PM
looks very nice. where did you score the 5.3L with 4L60E? Ive been looking for that setup for my YJ. Did you end up going pre or post 2002?
Keep up the nice work
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 13, 2012, 07:44:45 AM
looks very nice. where did you score the 5.3L with 4L60E? Ive been looking for that setup for my YJ. Did you end up going pre or post 2002?
Keep up the nice work

i found it on kijiji out of a 2003 silverado, the guy hit a deer and was selling it for $800, I seen another for sale couple weeks ago on kijiji
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: midnightcowboy on November 13, 2012, 02:05:52 PM
I must have missed that one. Dammit. Good find. Ill keep looking.
Why did you decide to go with the advance adapters kit rather then combining the S10 231 case with the jeep 231 case and then just buying the VSS kit from AA?
Looking for input on that part of the swap yet.

Thanks
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 13, 2012, 03:47:02 PM
i havent really reserched in regards to the S10 231 and just kinda went with the AA kit. Ill be buying the StAK replace a case for the D300 and going that direction.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 29, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
Started on the front end, Had to re-do a few things to get better alpha angle on coilovers, so I cut the front frame off and bent up a new one out of tube, also started on the fenders and stinger. some progress picks.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front1-1_zpse0d483c7.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front2_zpsf1d31e78.jpg)

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(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/coilover1_zps24971cda.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/coilover2_zps0d6a3653.jpg)

still lots to do, need to bend up some more tube on the front for coilover hoops and get small bumper for the winch.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on January 04, 2013, 05:36:19 PM
did a bit more work on the front end, just need to do some sheet metal work on the fenders and get a winch to make sure it fits. thats a 39" irok, i'll be using 42" SX's

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front9_zps823f0de1.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front6_zps00c7f216.jpg)

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(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/front8_zps7550d2e6.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: LEMON-AID JAY on January 04, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
I am loving this keep up the good work  ;D
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: JENSSEN on January 07, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
I dig it!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: JENSSEN on February 17, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
Just left Raf's house and all I can say is WOW!!!

The pictures don't do this build justice!!!

I can't wait to see where this build goes!

Title: Re: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: AstraX on February 18, 2013, 07:49:31 PM
I have been reading about this build pretty much since I joined this site...Raf...need to see this thing out and rolling! ;D
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: 95XJeh on April 05, 2013, 09:59:30 AM
Just read you entire build. I'm blown away by your Xj. The things a beauty!

Can wait too see it in action!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on October 11, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
its been a while, getting some garage time in when I can. I started on the skid today, will do the sides of the skid next week and hopefully start on the boat sides. winter time means garage time for me.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid2_zps76baab04.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid7_zpsce9a8da5.jpg)

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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on October 12, 2013, 04:09:35 AM
Thats lookin mighty beefy :D

Like a polish Sausage!

Love it Raf! I will try and make a trip down in the next couple weeks if your still in town and need a hand!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 09, 2013, 04:21:46 PM
been cold outside so spent a few days in the garage. I finished belly skid and side mini boatsides.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid6_zps9fc41b85.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid7_zpsba51a37b.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid8_zpsd19b99c6.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid9_zps630bdbfc.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/skid10_zps5ab58145.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 11, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
did some more work today, trying to finish up the from end.

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/fender4_zpsc2433681.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/fender5_zpse4220afd.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/fender1_zps1929688b.jpg)
Title: Re:
Post by: AstraX on December 11, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
That looks killer.  Nice job.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: tubby on December 12, 2013, 09:48:10 PM

That's some awesome attention to detail Raf, it looks like you're just loving the dimple -dies .
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 13, 2013, 07:25:19 AM
That's some awesome attention to detail Raf, it looks like you're just loving the dimple -dies .

I think the dimple dies are my new fetish haha
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: SwampSinger on December 13, 2013, 05:39:38 PM
You better keep a close eye on your Heep Raf... Noel is gonna stick his stinky dinky in all them dimples when your not looking.


Nice work!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on February 24, 2014, 08:35:57 PM
Still plugging away at it, small update. its starting to take shape.



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/f5_zpsd9e9581f.jpg)



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/f4_zps9144d196.jpg)



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/f3_zps7e3d2c96.jpg)



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/f2_zpsf7ffe9ac.jpg)



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/f1_zpscd675ea7.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: dubbleJs on February 25, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
Looking sick man! Are you going to do a big fender on the front as well?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on February 25, 2014, 12:33:10 PM
Looking sick man! Are you going to do a big fender on the front as well?

no, the front fender with the dimple dies is staying as is.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Immortal on February 25, 2014, 05:01:15 PM
Until that first mudhole, and his entire XYJ is covered.... then front fenders are going on.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on February 25, 2014, 05:27:52 PM
Until that first mudhole, and his entire XYJ is covered.... then front fenders are going on.

mud hole or not, that is the fender as you see it, this aint no mud truck foo. you better come get your 14b and bring that 44 over.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Immortal on February 25, 2014, 10:27:36 PM
you better come get your 14b and bring that 44 over.

Done, and done..... My back hurts now.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: dubbleJs on February 26, 2014, 09:35:01 AM
Until that first mudhole, and his entire XYJ is covered.... then front fenders are going on.

Ha...that's what I was thinking. Maybe it will help you avoid those damned mud holes...even though they're so fun!...Gotta hate the havoc they wreak afterwards.

Done, and done..... My back hurts now.

oooooh...14b eh?!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Immortal on February 26, 2014, 11:04:20 AM
Yeah.... Big bastard for my rear..... Take that how you want. ;)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on February 27, 2014, 05:16:43 AM
Yeah.... Big bastard for my rear..... Take that how you want. ;)

10.5" in the back... Gah. Why do I assume you take it low on lube... And let me guess... you chirp when your wiggling it around?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 15, 2014, 04:16:48 PM
worked on the hood today, attached with dzeusk fastners.



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/h6_zpsec384fcc.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/h5_zps4226e406.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/h4_zps58d7bdf6.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/h1_zps016db9b8.jpg)



will work on more panels on the side of the engine bay, and will start on exhaust manifolds this week I hope.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: bRIBEGuy on December 15, 2014, 06:16:00 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: dubbleJs on December 15, 2014, 08:02:15 PM
Nice work man! Are you going to do a cage on it?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 15, 2014, 08:22:03 PM
Nice work man! Are you going to do a cage on it?

yup i'll be doing internal cage
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: cjust on December 15, 2014, 09:33:02 PM
Crazy! I love it


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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Pookapotamus on December 16, 2014, 07:05:09 AM
Sweet Raf!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Black Betty on December 17, 2014, 10:43:40 PM
Looking good buddy.  I will have to see this beast in person some day when I'm not moving crap into my house.

Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: TL-Iguana on December 19, 2014, 09:03:39 AM
Finally fixed those panels on? Your beer kept falling to the floor ;)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on December 20, 2014, 01:58:28 PM
started work on the custom headers, did the collectors today, now need to do the rest of the headers and exhaust. 2" primaries into 2.5" dual exhaust. with the crane cam 200 I'm expecting 380hp at 5400 rpm and 400TQ at 4700 RPM



(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/10881906_647949991982191_6723759142334084765_n_zps0b377031.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/10393761_647950018648855_154556487572884052_n_zps640705f8.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/10432146_647950041982186_3247457501383512660_n_zps3be02e7f.jpg)

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q294/raf2379/1%20Ton%20XJ/10881674_647950085315515_5477663185703439534_n_zps650dba97.jpg)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: flex-j on May 09, 2015, 07:59:12 AM
This rig is BA 8)! Anymore updates?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on May 09, 2015, 06:34:59 PM
Anymore updates?

coming soon. should be finishing off the exhaust this summer and get that 5.3 fired up.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: EEP on May 09, 2015, 09:08:57 PM
Its a XJ transformer LOL. Impressive build!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: flex-j on May 10, 2015, 08:46:49 AM
Its a XJ transformer LOL. Impressive build!

By far one of my favorite jeep builds of all time. This thing is going to be outrages When it's all finished up. Looking forward to reading more raf
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Dingleberry on November 25, 2015, 10:15:18 AM
coming soon. should be finishing off the exhaust this summer and get that 5.3 fired up.

So, is it moving under its own power?
Title: Re:
Post by: cjust on November 25, 2015, 10:23:09 AM
Last time I was at rafs place it had not changed. Maybe he meant next summer :)

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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: AstraX on November 30, 2015, 10:13:20 PM
So, is it moving under its own power?

I think he just got side tracked and bought a JK.  Motivation went down when he could hit the trails.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on November 30, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
I think he just got side tracked and bought a JK.  Motivation went down when he could hit the trails.

that would be big part of it haha plus budget is a tad small at the moment
Title: Re: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: cjust on December 01, 2015, 06:45:05 PM
that would be big part of it haha plus budget is a tad small at the moment
Buy back the yj sell the jk and finish the xj ;)

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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: EEP on December 01, 2015, 07:19:30 PM
He's to busy helping me with my XJ lol
Title: Re:
Post by: cjust on December 02, 2015, 07:50:20 AM
Lmao

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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vintage Smoke on September 11, 2017, 09:40:55 AM
?I know this is an old thread, but I would really like to see where this went. Any updates or pics of the finished product?
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: fug on September 11, 2017, 12:15:26 PM
Bahahahah Finished ... I snorted hard at that idea. Think it looks the exact same today as it did in the pics from 3 years ago. 

Raf ... quit trying to sell it and just finish it already  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 11, 2017, 12:42:25 PM
Yeah no change. I did make jack stand dolly so I can move it around from one side to the next. We'll see what happens in 2018 Fug
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vinman on September 11, 2017, 12:57:46 PM
Hey now, there's nothing wrong with having a project sit unfinished in your garage for many years...
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Pookapotamus on September 11, 2017, 07:01:05 PM
Or driving it around unfinished!


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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vintage Smoke on September 12, 2017, 07:32:19 PM
Well...I guess I should have put finished in quotes....
Either way that is strong work. Very nice indeed!! Raf... I just picked up a pristine rust free 2000 2 door and I am looking to do a similar set up with a frame. I do have the equipment and skills to do it, I just have a few questions on specifics. Would you mind if I sent you a PM and picked your brain a bit?
Nick
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 12, 2017, 08:02:36 PM
Any time, send me any questions you have
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vintage Smoke on September 20, 2017, 09:28:06 PM
Any time, send me any questions you have
Awesome!! Thanks!!
I just picked up a Dana 60/70 combo and a tow truck should be delivering a complete 2002 Tahoe with a 5.3 to my house sometime tomorrow.
Being that the XJ I have is %110 rust free it is the perfect blank canvas to start with (Even if it is currently a 2 wheel drive 4 cylinder) so I want to do it once and do it right. I was considering frame stiffeners, but it has been in my head that it would probably be easier, and with a better end result, to start from scratch. As soon as I found this thread I knew I had to reach out.
You may regret it, but you'll be hearing from me.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on September 20, 2017, 09:59:17 PM
[email protected] or whatsapp 4036135759
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vintage Smoke on September 23, 2017, 07:27:54 AM
[email protected] or whatsapp 4036135759
Thanks!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on February 03, 2018, 07:33:08 AM
like magic it turned from red to green
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: firebane on February 03, 2018, 01:46:12 PM
LOL looks good.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vintage Smoke on July 29, 2018, 01:49:47 PM
Dare I ask for an update? lol
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on July 29, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
Dare I ask for an update? lol
  lol, I sold the red monster and I just wheel the green mild built xj.
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Vintage Smoke on July 29, 2018, 09:25:11 PM
 :(
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: Graveltravels on April 26, 2019, 11:19:03 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190426/bba0eb93f6f50ee6a62bc6f695675df6.jpg)

If anyone’s interested. Fred has the motor in, gears done, and is getting to driveshafts for it.


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Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: raf2379 on April 26, 2019, 02:45:50 PM
wow bad arse, cant wait to see Fred climb some rocks with this beast
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: w squared on April 26, 2019, 03:13:38 PM
Awesome sauce. I'm eager to see those speed holes seeing some speed!
Title: Re: Raf's XJ
Post by: slanktapper on September 20, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
Damn that thing looks like an xj rear ended a buggy!