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Title: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 18, 2011, 11:50:55 AM
With the weather getting nice again, having wiper blades that work properly is a must!  My jeep doesn't seem to agree with this!  I thought I had fixed the issue with my wiper blades not sitting flat agains my windsheild by making a few small bends in the arm, but the cold snap we just had must have undone all my work.  Is there a bolt or nut that can be tighted on the wiper blade arm that will make it sit tighter to the windsheild? Or am I going to have to suck it up and pay to replace it?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: specialk on January 18, 2011, 12:41:37 PM
You can adjust it by taking a large hammer and beating on it.









or just buy a new one.  That may work too  ::)
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Knox on January 18, 2011, 12:54:31 PM
unless I drempt it up, you can buy springs somewhere and they make the wipers sit tighter.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: frenchy on January 18, 2011, 12:56:20 PM
Persuading additional curves into the lustrous chemical element has little impact applying pressure to the window.
They're engineered with a recoil device to achieve this application of force.. Do you have a recoil device? Is your recoil device worn out? Is it installed correctly?


If your swipers not swiping,  see if it looks like this,

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h61/mr_frenchy/wiper.jpg)
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: tubby on January 18, 2011, 01:18:30 PM

There's a spring underneath the wiper arm that you can modify to make your wipers  work better. Drill a new hole and move the spring so that there is more tension on the blade/arm.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 18, 2011, 04:59:46 PM
See I figured bending it would provide a greater angel and therefore more pressure... but i was never good at math nor do I have much mechanical knowledge!  This would explain why it didn't work.  I'll have a look at the spring and see what I can do.

Good luck to me
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: hps4evr on January 18, 2011, 05:46:48 PM
clean and lube the pivot.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Tinkerer on January 18, 2011, 08:37:21 PM
clean and lube the pivot.
I second this one. Mine need to be lubricated regularly as they seem to have some bimetal corrosion there and stiffen up. I used to have supplementary springs until they snapped, but that simply delayed the problem, though it did extend the lubrication intervals :)  When the weather is nicer, I think I'll take mine off and soak them overnight.

I didn't notice this on the maintenance schedule!  ;D

Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Alltornup on January 18, 2011, 10:23:19 PM
clean and lube the pivot.

My Jeep have never had a problem.  But the Girlfriends TJ is same as yours.  Took a good 2-3 weeks of lube to get it back to wiping clean. 
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 19, 2011, 10:33:14 AM
I haven't taken a good look at the pivot yet, but it seems bending the arm back away from the windsheild seems to put better pressure on the wiper blades.  Although I have been getting a squilling noise when I use them for the first time everyday.  This may be a lube issue or a motor issue?  It sounds like a pig squilling!!! 

I've I were to lube the pivot is there anything besides common sense that I should know?
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Tinkerer on January 19, 2011, 10:05:37 PM
I was told the squealing was normal when it's cold out, so I haven't tried doing anything about it.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 19, 2011, 10:55:41 PM
Well that sucks if the squilling is normal...nothings more annoying than that noise when youre barely awake in the a.m.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: The Machinist on January 20, 2011, 06:34:51 AM
A little belt dressing should fix that squilling!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: w squared on January 20, 2011, 07:15:05 AM
A little belt dressing should fix that squilling!

Make sure you use the kind with extra zinc.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 20, 2011, 10:04:32 AM
Where do I pick up this "belt dressing" you speak of? Canadian tire?
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: JackstandJohnny on January 20, 2011, 10:20:32 AM
spray it with Wd 40.

when it starts squeeking again, spray it with WD40
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: tubby on January 20, 2011, 10:27:11 AM
Where do I pick up this "belt dressing" you speak of? Canadian tire?

Same place you get muffler bearings
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 20, 2011, 10:49:57 AM
Same place you get muffler bearings

NOT HELPFULL!!!  :-\

WD40 IT IS! Maybe I could use some to lubircate Tubby's attitude as well!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: specialk on January 20, 2011, 10:53:15 AM
Where do I pick up this "belt dressing" you speak of? Canadian tire?

Same place you get muffler bearings

They are pulling your chain, buddy...
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: tubby on January 20, 2011, 11:05:20 AM
NOT HELPFULL!!!  :-\

WD40 IT IS! Maybe I could use some to lubircate Tubby's attitude as well!

Are you an adult?
Are you looking to be spoon fed?
Me and several others have given you ideas on how to fix your simple problem. It's not rocket science.

Are you going to jump into fourwheeling armed with only a modicum of knowledge on how your TJ works?
Are you going to expect others to help you when something breaks on your Jeep or stand and watch helplessly?

I'm not being mean kid. I talked Eric into greenlighting you for this weekends run and I've also pm'ed you in the past offering you help with your Jeep.



Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 20, 2011, 11:46:09 AM
I am most certainly an adult!  The first thing I learned as an adult was to seek out advice from those that have more wisdom and knowledge of things that you do not, so you don't whined up screwing yourself over! I would rather get some simple info of how to fix my problem before screwing around with a piece of equipment that could cost me 300$ to replace.  I could also spend hours of my time searching out info on the web (that may not be accurate) or I could ask the guys on this forum that I have come to trust a great deal.  So spoon feed NO, but resourceful YES!

Additionally, I will be the first to admit that I ask simple questions, which require simple answers.  I am here to increase my very limited knowledge of Jeeps (auto mechanics in general) and if you are going to take the time to answer my questions, then why not just answer them!  I have no intention of being the guy on the runs that is helpless when problems or breakages occur or the guy that takes his Jeep into the shop to be fixed everytime! Hell I was proud of myself for mounting and balancing my own tires/wheels and for changing my headlights!  That being said if you feel like I need to keep these types of questions to myself and search out the answers myself then I can do that.  But I was under the impression that this was an open forum where guys like me could learn!!!

Finally, Tubby I did not mean to offend you!  I apologize if I crossed a line with my comment. I thought that you and I a bit of a repour due to our previous conversations and I was just being playful...

Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: tubby on January 20, 2011, 11:51:05 AM

No worries guy. I hope you have your wiper issue fixed soon and have fun this weekend at the Hot-Chocolate run.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 20, 2011, 11:52:55 AM
Thanks dude!

I appreciate you putting in the good word for me!   ;D

You going to be there?
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Knox on January 20, 2011, 01:17:07 PM
You going to be there?

It's a Trap!

also my wipers squeal when cold, is it wrong when my wife asked if I need anything at Canadian tire this morning I said belt dressing for my wiper assembly?
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 20, 2011, 01:35:55 PM
It's a Trap!

No trap here! I'm not a guy to hold a grudge  :)

Knox do you apply the belt dressing on the wiper blade motor or on the hinges that come out of the hood?

Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: The Machinist on January 20, 2011, 02:51:34 PM
You have been the victim of an inside joke and I apologize for having a laugh at your expense.  To clear things up, belt dressing is for belts.  Do not spray it on your wiper motor, do not spray it on your hinge or spring, do not buy it. 
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 20, 2011, 03:08:06 PM
I was curious about the name... thought it was one of those things that had an original use, but became multi-purpose...  :-\

Looks like I need to start asking more serious questions on here to avoid this happening again!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: scott slade on January 20, 2011, 04:55:42 PM
Thank God  you didn"t ask about improving your gas mileage...!!!!!   lol   8)
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Hi Lo Silver on January 20, 2011, 07:59:46 PM
First timer, the best hundred or so dollars you'll ever spend on each vehicle you ever buy and own is to order the proper shop manual (not owners manual). Don't get Chilton or Hanyes (proper name optional), but get the specific manual from your jeep dealer or through the mail.

Internet can be brutal sometimes. Shop manual is well worth it in so many ways.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 21, 2011, 09:20:23 AM
Hi Low,

Thats some of the best advice I've been given!

Thanks
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: 4PLAYZJ on January 21, 2011, 06:07:23 PM
clean and lube the pivot.

correct!! most wipers stop wiping properly because the hinge becomes rusty.  Get a good penetrating oil and work the wiper hinge with lube.  This may take alot of hinge movement but eventually it will free up and your wipers will be like new.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: apeman on January 21, 2011, 07:17:34 PM
Seriously?? Is this a real post? Cmon!  Take 5 minutes and look at the arms and figure it out...what next a 5 page post on what the best wiper blades are?
If that's the case search google.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: 4PLAYZJ on January 24, 2011, 10:14:31 PM
Seriously?? Is this a real post? Cmon!  Take 5 minutes and look at the arms and figure it out...what next a 5 page post on what the best wiper blades are?
If that's the case search google.

I guess that not everyone knows everything like you do, not Pirate dude, get a life.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: apeman on January 24, 2011, 10:30:17 PM
Maybe you can hold everyones hand when they are unsure how to change a tire or what the beat washer fluid is. Get a clue and use google, there is a reason they make billions of dollars. The question was answered in the first page, if this was pirate the flaming would have started two posts after that. Get a clue and stop wasting everyones time.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on January 25, 2011, 10:05:44 AM
Who knew such a simple question would cause so much heated conversation!

I would have to say that you are wasting your own time by answer this post! No one is holding a gun to your head to read it, press the reply button, type several dozen words, post it and then keep checking it, etc.  The only person you have to be mad at is yourself. 

On another note, thanks for the entertainment, its like watching an episode of some lame show that throws in a grumpy illogical old man for comedic relief when they don't have any other good material.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: The Machinist on January 25, 2011, 10:53:25 AM
I only have one question.  Where the fack is the popcorn emoticon???
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: apeman on January 25, 2011, 01:23:37 PM
My comments werent meant to offend or start a gongshow hate post...but seriously the post had a final answer 2 pages ago. Firsttimer, i know you have some relatively simple questions, and that is par for the course for any new jeeper. Im often the first to offer a logical answer, or a helping hand.  If you need your hand held on everything from valve stem caps to radiator caps, then be prepared to get the same responses. And yes i do have to keep reading, i may just have the tech answer you are looking for.  Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: SwampSinger on January 25, 2011, 01:56:48 PM
(http://www.craftster.org/pictures/data/500/medium/66754_bacon_grease.jpg)

works like a charm
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: silverfox on January 25, 2011, 03:45:07 PM
(http://www.craftster.org/pictures/data/500/medium/66754_bacon_grease.jpg)

works like a charm

And much tastier than popcorn  :o
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Immortal on January 25, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
Who knew such a simple question would cause so much heated conversation!

Welcome to calgaryjeep.com..... let the show begin.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: TL-Iguana on January 25, 2011, 10:20:01 PM
I have to agree with Swampsinger. The bacon not only tastes good, but if the rendered fat is left to cool, one could slather it on said rusty springs, which in turn will temporarily lube them, as well as make them smell good!

In fact, I think im gonna try that with my squeaky heater motor. When i turn that on, Id rather not hear the squeal, and the smell of bacon sure beats out wet carpet!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: specialk on January 26, 2011, 08:22:37 AM
bacon and lube...  what can I say... 
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: w squared on January 26, 2011, 06:37:32 PM
bacon and lube...  what can I say... 

What you normally say when Shawn shows up with bacon and lube for you. "Si papito, por favor!"
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: BlackAura on January 27, 2011, 01:12:02 PM
First timer, the best hundred or so dollars you'll ever spend on each vehicle you ever buy and own is to order the proper shop manual (not owners manual). Don't get Chilton or Hanyes (proper name optional), but get the specific manual from your jeep dealer or through the mail.

Internet can be brutal sometimes. Shop manual is well worth it in so many ways.

I dunno, I used to feel the same way (manuals are great for my other vehicles), however the Jeep manual has been somewhat disappointing so far....  :(
(I was working on the cam angle sensor and it wasn't listed anywhere in the index, so I had to just flip through the book until I found it)
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Grease Nipple on February 04, 2011, 11:09:14 AM
Johnny C just ordered this.

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23

John, let us know how they work!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on February 04, 2011, 11:18:32 AM
Came across these today! 
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=437&plID=1080&partID=12725
I think I'll be order them up! Driving on Deerfoot the last couple of days has been sketchy at best!
Oh and maybe i'll bust out the jar of bacon grease from my freezer and through some on there too, hell I'll just wash her in it and maybe increase my gas milage too!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: JackstandJohnny on February 04, 2011, 11:21:13 AM
ugh thanks grease nipple.

what can i say?  a couple rums, a creditcard and bad late night infomercials are a bad combination
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: JackstandJohnny on February 04, 2011, 11:22:07 AM
Came across these today! 
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=437&plID=1080&partID=12725
I think I'll be order them up! Driving on Deerfoot the last couple of days has been sketchy at best!
Oh and maybe i'll bust out the jar of bacon grease from my freezer and through some on there too, hell I'll just wash her in it and maybe increase my gas milage too!


these are sold at canadian tire/autovalue etc. 

its a common fix for the problem you describe, that magically made its way to 4 pages long....
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on February 04, 2011, 11:38:08 AM
I can't believe that if these are available at Canadian tire that no one mentioned it early! I am equally as suprised as you are that this topic ran 4 pages! Although, most of the posts are non-sense and uninformative, so really if you took all that out it would maybe be one. On the bright side I had a few good laughs, and learned a lot about the guys on this forums personalities!
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: JackstandJohnny on February 04, 2011, 01:19:43 PM
I can't believe that if these are available at Canadian tire that no one mentioned it early!

its the third post in this thread............  theres even a picture for you.
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: apeman on February 04, 2011, 01:56:15 PM
Hey Johnny, can you also please attach a google map of the location to the nearest Canadian Tire? Directions? What aisle, price, color?  Do they take debit?

 ::)

(http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/wp-content/media/2006/07/hand_holding.jpg)
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: Joel on February 04, 2011, 02:33:20 PM
Those don't include instructions.   >:(

Someone please post detailed instructions on how to go about installing them please.  8)
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: FirstTimer on February 04, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
Sh!t! My bad I got so caught up in the schinanagans of some of these posts I completely forgot about that!  Or was it that there are so many rediculous answers to this question I didn't think that item actually existed, it was just something someone through together, or photoshopped or pulled out of their a$$!

Anyways, thanks for pointing that out!

All in good fun! 
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: JackstandJohnny on February 04, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/facepalmBear.jpg)



its all good. just read peoples responses; as you just pointed out, your question was answered in the third post.   people will just grow tired answering you if you don't.....

A: read
B: listen to responses
C: ask the same question again
D: all of the above
E: use bacon in an inappropriate manner
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: silverfox on February 04, 2011, 05:55:26 PM
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/facepalmBear.jpg)



its all good. just read peoples responses; as you just pointed out, your question was answered in the third post.   people will just grow tired answering you if you don't.....

A: read
B: listen to responses
C: ask the same question again
D: all of the above
E: use bacon in an inappropriate manner

Really?  Is there any inappropriate bacon behaviour?
Title: Re: Wiper Blade Arms not sitting flush
Post by: The Machinist on February 04, 2011, 09:48:08 PM
Those wiper blade sharpeners suck!  Tried them on some customers car, was hoping he would crash before his engine blew up!   8)