Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Land Issues, Trail Projects & Trail Stewardship => Topic started by: frenchy on January 20, 2011, 11:55:52 AM
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For the 2011 season we have some ideas, some preliminary plans for various trail work to be done.
However, suggestions are always welcomed!
Post or PM if you know of the following, or other work that should be done. Mostly focusing on the Mclean Creek area for now.
- Sloppy, low-lying trail section that could possibly be diverted to higher, harder ground
- Trail entrance or road crossing points that need work or may give off a bad perception type image
- Creek crossings where bank erosion is obvious
- General trail repair, fencing, abandoned vehicle / camper / garbage removal, etc...
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What kind of need is there for a recycling center at trail heads or trail meeting spots?
I know that if you set something up the gov. will let you drop off the recyclable material at the big green bin drop spots around the city.
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For the most part people are becoming more responsible about not littering. I don't think there is enough volume to setup recycling centers.
We always preach the "pack out what you packed in" rule.
There are garbage bins at the meeting and camping areas.
Not sure I'd want to get into micro managing the refuse by separating plastics, glass, paper, etc... In the bush.
That is up to the individual and an easier task to do once back at home.
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There is an area by the Top of the World turnoff that can use some culverts installed fro drainage, John and I took pictures last year. There is also the bridge in Waiparous that could use some love.
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There is an area by the Top of the World turnoff that can use some culverts installed fro drainage, John and I took pictures last year. There is also the bridge in Waiparous that could use some love.
I'm awaiting pics from John of that area, we should be able to do something. Thanks guys.
That old AURS Waiparous bridge is beyond repair. It has served it's time for many years!
We are hoping to divert the trail, maybe prior to the previous CJA bridge as to not cross Meadow Creek twice.
Bridges are expensive and very time consuming.
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Fras if you have pics wanna send em.
I won't be home until sunday Serge, so i can't get access to them until sunday night.
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To bypass both bridges there is probably about a days work with a bobcat to level out the old trail where it wsa reclaimed and maybe about a hundred feet of corderow road to build . Woild have to walk it or drive it to confirm . The old trail goes around the base of the hill that everybody drives up for the view and where the new bridge is it is on the trail coming down the easy way on the right and that part has been reclaimed.
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I am not sure if it would be considered a trail project or not but there is that corner on the way to the falls where the Toyota went over last year ( I think) and where the 4dr JK dropped a wheel over the edge. There was some mention that there is a way around that should be used and that corner should be blocked off.
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I am not sure if it would be considered a trail project or not but there is that corner on the way to the falls where the Toyota went over last year ( I think) and where the 4dr JK dropped a wheel over the edge. There was some mention that there is a way around that should be used and that corner should be blocked off.
An illegal bypass you say? ;D I'll have to look into that.
Isn't this the only somewhat of an obstacle where you should turn auto pilot off?
You could stack rocks :)
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I am not sure if it would be considered a trail project or not but there is that corner on the way to the falls where the Toyota went over last year ( I think) and where the 4dr JK dropped a wheel over the edge. There was some mention that there is a way around that should be used and that corner should be blocked off.
That corner is getting worse each year especially if you have a larger vehicle or its 'winter/icy conditions'.
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We submitted a request for a TFA to the GAMP committee to fix that issue. They never got back to us with a yes to approve the work. I have just sent off an e-mail asking for an update and some feed back.
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We submitted a request for a TFA to the GAMP committee to fix that issue. They never got back to us with a yes to approve the work. I have just sent off an e-mail asking for an update and some feed back.
I don't know what the rules are for trail "repairs/modifications" but after looking at vid of that spot it seems to me that a few guys and a few hours (dependant on the # of warm bodies) could take down that one tree and take a few feet off of the inside of that corner.
It wouldn't stop the erosion issue on the outside however so in a couple of years we could potentially be back to the same issue.
The toughest part would be the stump and roots of that big evergreen but I am sure some well place cuts and some intelligent winching would get it out.
Like I say though I don't know what the rules are for trail modifications are.
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With srd taking out a tree is a no no unless it is already dead . The bypass has one tree lying on the ground across the trail . At that spot I,ve always gone over the edge and across the rocks .
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We scoped out that area a year ago and found an old cut line in towards the bush. The bypass is there. As Blair said, we just need SRD and GAMP to approve it.
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I will help with some work out on the trail if you need some one just let me know. :)
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Tell em you work for Spray Lake Sawmill and they'll approve everything right away.
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Tell em you work for Spray Lake Sawmill and they'll approve everything right away.
Lying to the government is usually a great way to improve the relation you have with them...
NICE one buddy!
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Of the course the Government has never lied to us. ;D
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Ha! Never! ;D
It's easy to do all kinds of shenanigans when you are the judge and the jury. ::)
That's for another Tread.... ;)
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Tell me when and where this trail project is going down and I'm there! Sorry no suggestions, but lots of commitment!
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Tell me when and where this trail project is going down and I'm there! Sorry no suggestions, but lots of commitment!
Commitment is even gooder then suggestions ;D
Do you have an ATV?
If not, you'll probably have to wait til May for Mclean creek projects. They will be posted on this site.
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I have a ATV or a Razor how can i help?
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Lying to the government is usually a great way to improve the relation you have with them...
NICE one buddy!
You guys would just be returning the favour from all the past unfulfilled promises made by them, just sayin. ;)
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JJ... just remember who you work with...
They are all Layers,politicians,,,Liers (SP?).. so if they do half they they say they will do ... it's good!
No offence intended on the previous post JJ
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Lawyers, liars... same difference?
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I am not sure if it would be considered a trail project or not but there is that corner on the way to the falls where the Toyota went over last year ( I think) and where the 4dr JK dropped a wheel over the edge. There was some mention that there is a way around that should be used and that corner should be blocked off.
I sent out some e-mails and it appears the Trail committee of GAMP approved this re route of the trail in 2010 but we never received notification. If the club would like I can ask for an updated TFA from ASRD and we can proceed with the work this spring. We can talk about it at the next meeting.
Cheers
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That is great news Blair!
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Sweet.......
I am looking forward to this.......got two young lads that need to get out of the jeep and out from behind their video games as do a little labor of love.
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Count me in for going out and getting my hands dirty. I assume there will be updates on here for it? I can't make it to this months meeting for the info.
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I fully admit I know very little, or anything for that matter, on this subject. I would like to get involved but am unsure how a plain ol wheeler like myself can help. I use the trails of course and I use them with respect. If I can help please let me know.
I would like to ad this though. Maybe old Ted Morton would have a bit more of an open ear now that he is trying to get elected? There has to be many hundreds(thousands even) of outdoor users who vote. Politics are involved I'm sure in the decisions made about the trails. Maybe we, as wheelers, let old Teddy know how we feel via our vote. I know just in my family alone there are 15 votes. Add that to all the other wheelers and their families out there we should have a stong voice.
JEEPLESS
aka TANK
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I have a ATV or a Razor how can i help?
Drop that razor off at my house ;D
Next nice weekend I'll be heading out on an exploratory mission. Couple spots to check out...
Information gathering, strategic vehicle recovery research and need to find a turnaround spot on trail for my car hauler.
I'll let you know when it's a go.
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Cool anytime . 1 have a 18 ft flat deck we can also use if we need too!!
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If we need to use it i also have a outlander 800 too so what ever works i'm there.
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If we need to use it i also have a outlander 800 too so what ever works i'm there.
Ok Brian, maybe the better question is .....
What don't you have :o. ?
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There is a lot i don't have,Years of hard work but the thing i love the best is my JEEP !!!!!