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Title: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: JENSSEN on December 01, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
Ok, last straw we have had people enter our gated yard several times this year to take our empties,... Today we got hit yet again, now to be honest I could give a s#it about the empties but some fawkers in my yard roaming around when I am at work really pisses me off,.. Last few times then even stole my garbage can.

So the idea is this :

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/RACE4THECURE/4659e761.jpg)

Plus a metal garbage can but I could use some insight on the best way to make sure this is effective as possible :)

Just need to insulate the can bottom

I think this plan will work

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/RACE4THECURE/8cd1d916.jpg)


Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Fredduck on December 01, 2011, 07:40:41 PM
Padlock the gates first, if you hurt someone you could be charged.
Then run 220 to you r empties  :o
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: w squared on December 01, 2011, 07:51:02 PM
You will have to make sure that the "route to ground" through the person pilfering your empties is preferable to the the "route to ground" through the garbage can.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: JENSSEN on December 01, 2011, 07:52:47 PM
Padlock the gates first, if you hurt someone you could be charged.
Then run 220 to you r empties  :o

I have 2 bags of limestone
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: FiEND on December 01, 2011, 08:08:18 PM
Good time of year to watch home alone, good ideas in there
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Jrama on December 01, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
I don't think this would be illegal if you put up a sign warning them of the danger. When they ignore the  "Warning electric garbage can" sign, you can have satisfaction.

Otherwise if they really want to they can charge you.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Rubi03 jef on December 01, 2011, 08:46:16 PM
I don't think this would be illegal if you put up a sign warning them of the danger. When they ignore the  "Warning electric garbage can" sign, you can have satisfaction.

Otherwise if they really want to they can charge you.


im sorry but they douche bag is in your back yard .. steeling crap     shock him good when he goes down . let the dogs out if you dont have dogs then get a bat a beat them sense less and when the cops show up a week later tell them you didnt see anything because you have a job and you work un like the prick laying dead in your yard

we live in alberta there are thousands of jobs for everyone .   no reason so people going through your garbage .

and if this all sounds to harsh  then dont step foot in my yard :)

good luck with the shocking  hope you get the person good
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: jkrubi on December 01, 2011, 09:13:32 PM
I can just see you now, lying in the snow foaming at the mouth because you forgot that the garbage can is electrified.  ;D
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Jrama on December 01, 2011, 09:20:16 PM
Just illegal is all I'm sayin  ;D. In all honesty it'd be awesome to see him/her (Girls smoke crack too) get shocked, but I just tend to think too much into things like this.

Is it realistic the cops will care? Probably not, still...

What if for instance the bum gets fumed and decides to vandalize some property? Do you think the  he/she gives a crap if it goes to jail? It probably wouldn't be worth the the trouble.


That said.... I DO want to see/ hear about a bum getting shocked, so...do it...what are the chances something could go wrong.... right?
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: heep-a-lop on December 01, 2011, 11:14:29 PM
when i worked seismic i had a farmer in northern alberta with a barb wire fence with metal staples carrying electrcity down it enough to fry a cow.... it was hooked right up off the pole drop

it hurt i got zapped by it one time ever i have had to take a minute Mr. Falcon hurt
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: priceless on December 01, 2011, 11:15:48 PM
Thats a great idea!!  :D  
That bottle jockey must be making a killing. The same thing keeps happening to my brother in fairview.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Gearhead on December 02, 2011, 07:50:16 AM
This has happened  here several times .  One scum sucker was so notorious there were wanted posters posted on telephone poles , someone took a picture of him rifling through stuff on their deck then  made copies to warn others.  Bottles wern't the only thing taken !  All i'm gonna say is this guy was caught and beaten , he's not so bright and didn't "get it " , a second beating was necessary , he doesn't come around anymore .  This type of scavenging / hunter gatherer behavior  is very common , I generally let them know it's NOT ok to go through my garbage or set foot on my property ,   working wierd hours has me home  weekdays  quite   often  so I can watch for suspicious dirtbags.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: heep-a-lop on December 02, 2011, 08:55:32 AM
i wish one fo the shops i used to work by had outside cameras... i had  adrunk bum come around the corner on a bike to sharp caught the fender of my moms vibe and proceded to do the roll over the hood... damni wasih i would a caught it on tape woulda had to make up for replacing windows and destryed fender
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: jeepgrl on December 02, 2011, 12:50:04 PM
I don't think this would be illegal if you put up a sign warning them of the danger. When they ignore the  "Warning electric garbage can" sign, you can have satisfaction.

I have a spare CCTV camera in the garage and a sign that says 'under surveillance' - If we hook that up, then you're doubly covered. (And we can watch the replay of the fry-ing)  ;D
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: LOOKOUT on December 02, 2011, 02:59:17 PM
So i come from the farm and some small towns. Anyways were i currently reside i was having this same issue. Did all sortsa things signs padlocks chains even called the local bottle depot who knew exactly who was bringing the bottles in to collect on MY coin. But how do you prove it right. Jenssen i went to the farm and was gathering up some of our more powerful fence systems and metal containers. Well before i did the official hookup i had a chat with a police man who knew my frustration. This is what he told me QUOTE charge it up to take him RIGHT out UNQUOTE I say huh are you saying what i think your meaning He says so if someone slips on your sidewalk or driveway and gets injured on your property they can FULLY have the right to SUE you. So i never did set the fencer up But the thief did move out or just finally stopped taking mine in particular. MAY i suggest a trail camera from canadian tire or something on that lines you might even get some pictures of the puppys and kittys and birds coming threw your yard Not to mention anyone else that may be visiting your yard kids friends wifes friends or the people not specifically looking for your bottles..... You may end up super suprised what those motion cameras pick up BUT secure it VERY good even the ones on the trails seem to go easily missing. Good luck and Cheers  keep one posted on the final results.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: w squared on December 02, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
So i come from the farm and some small towns. Anyways were i currently reside i was having this same issue. Did all sortsa things signs padlocks chains even called the local bottle depot who knew exactly who was bringing the bottles in to collect on MY coin. But how do you prove it right. Jenssen i went to the farm and was gathering up some of our more powerful fence systems and metal containers. Well before i did the official hookup i had a chat with a police man who knew my frustration. This is what he told me QUOTE charge it up to take him RIGHT out UNQUOTE I say huh are you saying what i think your meaning He says so if someone slips on your sidewalk or driveway and gets injured on your property they can FULLY have the right to SUE you. So i never did set the fencer up But the thief did move out or just finally stopped taking mine in particular. MAY i suggest a trail camera from canadian tire or something on that lines you might even get some pictures of the puppys and kittys and birds coming threw your yard Not to mention anyone else that may be visiting your yard kids friends wifes friends or the people not specifically looking for your bottles..... You may end up super suprised what those motion cameras pick up BUT secure it VERY good even the ones on the trails seem to go easily missing. Good luck and Cheers  keep one posted on the final results.

Wow dude. That is some seriouswalloftextgoingonthere.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Alltornup on December 02, 2011, 06:42:10 PM
Go for it.  I hope they get shocked real good.  I just hope there is enough power through that thing to make it a good one.

I grabbed one of the fences in Lake Louise and it gave me a huge lifter, it just about dropped me.  But those fences are meant to keep out large animals like bears so they are probably quite a bit more powerful.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: binare on December 02, 2011, 07:54:21 PM
Id check on the legalities.... I once inquired about  a situation involving a cat being "slightly mangled" by accident after tearing up my garbage bags. It was not met with the same enthusiasm I had. Another option might be seeing if you can rent a trap from the drop in center. Then you can humanely capture the offender and have him put down.... if no one claims him/her of course.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: JohnB on December 03, 2011, 07:24:11 AM
Wow dude. That is some seriouswalloftextgoingonthere.

No paragraphs on the farm.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: JackstandJohnny on December 03, 2011, 11:53:30 AM
i had the same problem Jenssen............. so in my recycling, under the snow therein lies a couple mouse traps............

cops can't say jack. i have mouse traps out to............... catch mice. 

traps aren't tripped and bottles are still there.  thats my winter plan.

Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: heep-a-lop on December 03, 2011, 02:13:04 PM
yeah we did the ccty thing out at emf before the crawll have 8 total around the property 4 wireless ones in the trees all of them night vision... u know it aint gonna happen but at least u got it on tape... oh and our system dumps onto a external 1000 gig hard drive and has a 250 internal one....
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: jeepgrl on December 03, 2011, 06:31:40 PM
oh and our system dumps onto a external 1000 gig hard drive and has a 250 internal one....

 ;) talk nerdy to me...
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: dunl on December 04, 2011, 05:01:56 PM
i had the same problem Jenssen............. so in my recycling, under the snow therein lies a couple mouse traps............

I know all you Alberta boys are so fond of stating how there are never any rats in this province.....but that doesn't mean you can'y buy a rat trap here:


 EDIT: image is too big...you'll just have to click.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/Rattrap_and_mousetrap.JPG

"Well officer, I was sure there was a rat outside here the other day, but no one would believe me....so I set a rat trap to catch the sucker....cause...you know....a rat would just shake off a little normal mouse trap and keep going..."

I'm from a farm too....the damm things hurt.  
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: binare on December 04, 2011, 05:09:11 PM
Im an Alberta boy... thetes definately rats, need proof? Ings mine has enough.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: dunl on December 04, 2011, 05:13:44 PM
Oh, I'm quite sure there is rats here.....I just get a kick of how people state it is a rat-free province. lol
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Spinalguy on December 05, 2011, 08:48:15 AM
If i was a cart pusher in your alley and was zapped by your set up, i would probably throw rocks through your windows and vandalize everything i could...maybe in a drunken stupor with my other cart pushing buddies.
But, you go ahead and do that, versus putting your bottles away in the garage and using the black cans provided by the City.
Just saying.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Hi Lo Silver on December 07, 2011, 09:43:22 AM
Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I just got home and was going to post to this thread when I noticed your comment Spinalguy.

I know, I know, it's your back yard and your private property but so is your jeep. Would you leave a $20 bill on your dash or seat with your door unlocked or your window rolled down and expect it to be there in a day or two.

If it's valuable to you, lock it up or at least appreciate the fact that you've just bought someone else a bowl of soup. (or drugs)
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Rubi03 jef on December 07, 2011, 09:56:19 AM
I would expect My 20 bums to still be there

I expect people to treat me the way I treat them

I don't take stuff that isn't mine
And if te diuche bag throws rocks at ur house then more reason to run him Down with ur jeep

Everyone is hearts out to these homeless people

It's 2011 almost 2012. Get a fricken job already
People say there sick or there addicted or where Evers the excuse is

In the end there just F@$king lazy and weak

Yes I'm sure u all want to throw rocks at me right now but
That's fine
I work hard and treat other with respect the ones that deserve it

Shock away
:)
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: w squared on December 07, 2011, 11:20:28 AM
The point that Gun and Tom are making is not that "homeless people are cool" or "homeless people should be able to do what they want"....it's that "if you squirt off that homeless dude, he's gonna mess with your property cuz he's got nothing to lose". The fact that the homeless dude is in the wrong by taking your property isn't the point...it's that when you mess with someone that's got very little to lose, don't be surprised if there's an immdeiate emotional reaction on their part that will result in a pain in the arse factor for you far beyond what you initially planned.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Hi Lo Silver on December 07, 2011, 11:40:01 AM
I knew I should have edited my post after reading it. ;D  No my original post had nothing to do with the retaliation that I'm almost sure would follow if a trap were set for the bottle picker.

My post was more so meant for the entrapment of someone by leaving something out and visible. You can show all the respect you care to......for people you may know.....but wake up....this is as you say 2011 going onto 2012. It's not the good old days when you left the front door unlocked, and the keys hanging from the ignition. Unfortunately it's also not the good older days when horse thieves were lynched.

Chances are you keep your junk out of site and you may still have your junk when you come home from work. People are who they are these days.

I can't help but think of Ralph Klein's comment years ago as mayor of Calgary. The controversy that stirred up was unbelievable but his point was made.

I'm sure some of you remember his comments. hahahaha
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: specialk on December 07, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
This will get resolved with many beers at the King Eddie
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Unknown303 on December 07, 2011, 12:54:21 PM
I don't think this would be illegal if you put up a sign warning them of the danger. When they ignore the  "Warning electric garbage can" sign, you can have satisfaction.

Otherwise if they really want to they can charge you.

We're not in the states or are law really this tight that someone can get charged for electrifying their own property?  Neighbors of mine back in Jasper had an electric fence that lined their yard and I don't remember ever seeing a sign.  Plus one of these electric fences isn't going to kill anyone, pain yes but definitely won't kill anyone, My in-laws have these setup all over the place on their farm up north and a few shocks later I'm still around.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: binare on December 07, 2011, 04:14:12 PM
Im pretty sure there is a big difference in the intention of containing livestock and the intention of harming a useless bum.
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Unknown303 on December 07, 2011, 04:36:23 PM
Im pretty sure there is a big difference in the intention of containing livestock and the intention of harming a useless bum.

I suppose... But wouldn't it be weird if they were in the same category some how.. :o
Title: Re: Damn bottle jockeys strike again
Post by: Black Betty on December 07, 2011, 06:55:31 PM
Just paint the words "land mines" on the lid.