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Offline bdron

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2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start ( STARTED)
« on: December 01, 2010, 09:27:05 PM »
I have just replaced the 4L engine in my 2000 TJ with 1 out of a 2002 and I am having problems getting it started. It back fires and smells like fuel but does not  start. I used all the sensors from the old 4L. Does anyone have any ideas of what to check next?
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 10:36:08 PM »
Are all the spark plug wires in the right order ?      I've seen that happen before on a engine swap. 
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 05:45:32 AM »
Are all the spark plug wires in the right order ?      I've seen that happen before on a engine swap. 

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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 10:59:24 AM »
Sounds like cam position sensor (distributer) may be out a tooth.
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2010, 03:53:42 PM »
Sounds like cam position sensor (distributer) may be out a tooth.
I have found TDC and put a drill bit thought the cam position sensor and it lines up perfectly.

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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2010, 07:30:21 PM »
all the sensors are plugged in??

a long shot, but I could see it happening, I have even done that when I unplugged 2 things and forgot about one sensor that I could not really see that well.
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 03:26:59 PM »
Just out of curiosity, did you ever see the newer motor running, and why did you use the old sensors?
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 04:47:54 PM »
Still sounds out of time. You've got fuel, and spark according to your backfire.  If the rest of the sensors worked previously, they should be working now.

I would re-check the cam sensor. We've all been there when we thought we had TDC and still missed a tooth.
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2010, 04:49:57 PM »
And yeah, make sure you re check all the sensor connections, specially the crank.

You can pull the temp sensor to simulate -40 degrees c and throw the comp into open loop. Should poor fuel like crazy, ruling out fuel supply issues.

Test your fuel pressure............

Theres a lot you can do.
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Re: 2000 TJ 4L trouble getting to start
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2010, 06:13:11 PM »
And yeah, make sure you re check all the sensor connections, specially the crank.

You can pull the temp sensor to simulate -40 degrees c and throw the comp into open loop. Should poor fuel like crazy, ruling out fuel supply issues.

Test your fuel pressure............

Theres a lot you can do.
Thank you for giving me some things to check. I don't have the pcm for the newer motor but I have tried both years sensors. The only thing that I haven't checked yet is the flywheel flex plate to see if they were the same. I have been told that they are different but I will check that this weekend. I will try the temp sensor first and the fuel pressure to see if that will work.
Thanks again
Brian