auto locker or LSD

[Moezer]

Why not get rid of the lsd in the rear and go selectable.

When we were behind you 99% of the time you were one legging it up everything.

Thats why my friends tacoma on 31" bald a/t's was making it up stuff was because he has a locked rear.

lol only problems i had was on the snow/slush lol

[BUKI]

If you went with a auto locker up front and got rid of the vacume hub doodad (tracklok thingy).  would you not have 3 wheel drive until engaged. And the other wheel would free spin giving you steering capabilities.

[Jrama]

Locker in the rear is more advantageous, but then your pretty much limited to an LSD or selectable in a short wheel base wrangler........ this means $$$$.

Lunchbox upfront only makes sense because its A. Cheap B. an open diff when your not in 4x4.

In a perfect world we would all be willing to drop the cash for a selectable....unfortunately reality doesn't always make that the best option given circumstance.

I scored my Aussie pretty cheap off kijiji, it has been great. My e-locker wires have been ripped out, I have seen ARB air systems fail again and again  . Aussie has worked every-time flawlessly 100% lock 100% of the time still looks brand new after 2 1/2 years DD'ing and wheeling it very regularly. So yeah it plows and it kinda sucks on slippery roads....oh and in the right circumstance it walks around on ledges...which can be scary as crap, also slippery off camber conditions are a nightmare haha. Overall I'd say I'm still way ahead with the Aussie then without, just thought I'd post up the good and the bad.

[Moezer]

Locker in the rear is more advantageous, but then your pretty much limited to an LSD or selectable in a short wheel base wrangler........ this means $$$$.

Lunchbox upfront only makes sense because its A. Cheap B. an open diff when your not in 4x4.

In a perfect world we would all be willing to drop the cash for a selectable....unfortunately reality doesn't always make that the best option given circumstance.

I scored my Aussie pretty cheap off kijiji, it has been great. My e-locker wires have been ripped out, I have seen ARB air systems fail again and again  . Aussie has worked every-time flawlessly 100% lock 100% of the time still looks brand new after 2 1/2 years DD'ing and wheeling it very regularly. So yeah it plows and it kinda sucks on slippery roads....oh and in the right circumstance it walks around on ledges...which can be scary as crap, also slippery off camber conditions are a nightmare haha. Overall I'd say I'm still way ahead with the Aussie then without, just thought I'd post up the good and the bad.

a lsd in the front wont be the answer then if its that expensive and the thing about the the aussie is its my winter ride 100% lol i have a bmw for summer so the jeep only gets driven hort distances but it will be a problem when inter hits

[Moezer]

perhaps jrama if u got a tj i can test drive it

[Jrama]

I drive my jeep in winter full time its not bad at all, it is just annoying at times especially with MT's. I go down roads upwards of 80kph in 4H with the Aussie on snowy roads , worst that happens is it tends to wander more, you have to pay more attention. Curves and turns on the road are always gradual enough so that the jeep easily makes them. The only real problem in winter is pulling away from an intersection making a turn in 4H, it plows but still makes the turn.

As was mentioned by Bnine, even in winter you don't usually need to touch 4H and the cases where you want 4x4 the road is bad enough so that it allows the front tires to slide making the locked front livable. On those really bad days I just pull the 4x4 lever taking off from intersections and put it back in 2h when I'm done. Oh and don't even in your wildest dreams think about putting the jeep in 4h on dry pavement (not that you would), the locked front can throw you off the road if your not gripping that wheel good!  I have tried! It doesn't like to un-lock with a ton of stress on it either...so its extra fun

[Uboatcmdr]

Dana 35 in the back right?

Once i get my 8.8 in ill be having a dana 35 aussie up for sale on the cheap.
I would absolutely recommend a selectable in the rear if you can afford it though. Aussie'd rear in the winter is immensely fun when you WANT to get sideways.
However absolutely scary when you start drifting highway on ramps and such.

For the front, if your dropping that much on an lsd you may as well just go selectable, all the same work required.

[Dingleberry]

I drive my jeep in winter full time its not bad at all, it is just annoying at times especially with MT's. I go down roads upwards of 80kph in 4H with the Aussie on snowy roads , worst that happens is it tends to wander more, you have to pay more attention. Curves and turns on the road are always gradual enough so that the jeep easily makes them. The only real problem in winter is pulling away from an intersection making a turn in 4H, it plows but still makes the turn.

As was mentioned by Bnine, even in winter you don't usually need to touch 4H and the cases where you want 4x4 the road is bad enough so that it allows the front tires to slide making the locked front livable. On those really bad days I just pull the 4x4 lever taking off from intersections and put it back in 2h when I'm done. Oh and don't even in your wildest dreams think about putting the jeep in 4h on dry pavement (not that you would), the locked front can throw you off the road if your not gripping that wheel good!  I have tried! It doesn't like to un-lock with a ton of stress on it either...so its extra fun

What about when you have a 242 transfer case and want to use full-time instead of part-time? I presume in such a situation an automatic lunchbox locker up front would make it hell to deal with.

[Jrama]

Assuming your on a Slick Road
Full time is like 4wd without the locking center diff correct? So I don't see how it would be much of a problem... pretty much the same thing... the tires with the least resistance will be the ones spinning faster, that could be the front or the back or any combination since its full time.

If your on grippy-ish pavement you will lose your full time ability with a 242.

TJ only has 4h (part time) or nothing

[dac]

If you have your heart set on a LSD front look up the Detroit True-Trac online for reviews etc.

f/r tt's haven't let me down yet.  All depends on where you might want to go with it and how easy you want to make it.  The few times I've had it out, where I was stuck and had to winch, those with 33's and lockers front and rear were also winching.  Not knocking selectable lockers, but for what I wanted tt's were the best choice.

[Moezer]

im thinking of jut going with the spartan in the front, also jrama in winter i slap on my winter tires,  would that make a diffrance? if u dont mind maybe i can catch a ride with you some time to see how it works out like.

another thing in my tj if i put it in 4 hi or 4 low my dash only lights up as part time :S

[Dingleberry]

That's because it IS part-time. Part time means the front and rear driveshafts are locked together in a 50/50 split. When one spins, so does the other. This is what you want for off-roading for maximum traction.

Full time is where the transfer case has a differential and can allow the front and rear shafts to spin at separate rates (just like your axle differential allows the two wheels to spin at different rates). This is useful for using 4wd on dry pavement or when its not quite wet or slick enough to use part time (without risking damage to the transfer case or tires or other components).

For example its nice to use full-time  4wd in the city on mornings like this when yoy're often swithing between damp/snowy residential roads and dry main roads.

As Jamal said TJs only come with a part-time only transfer case.

[tubby]

im thinking of jut going with the spartan in the front, also jrama in winter i slap on my winter tires,  would that make a diffrance? if u dont mind maybe i can catch a ride with you some time to see how it works out like.

Sigh...

Winter tires ? Wha?

(Semi-el-cheapo-method but a pain in your arse gonna hate it but it's an option type-dealio)

Buy a lunchbox locker. Replace spider gears in carrier with said lunchbox. Have fun all summer till winter arrives. Remove lunchbox and re-install spider gears. Done. El-cheapo.

[Moezer]

tubby u like to do things the hrd way lol, im ganna buy the spartan down the road and i guess get use to it lol

[tubby]

tubby u like to do things the hrd way lol, im ganna buy the spartan down the road and i guess get use to it lol

100% correct ! I DID do it the hard way and put a lunchbox in my front Dana 30. Lasted all but a month in there. Was a chore to steer (yes the tolerances were in spec during installation) and I hated it in my DD. The Machinist(Jamey) also put a lunchbox in his 30. Not so " transparent" up front in his DD either. He spent over a grand and bought locking hubs so he could steer again. It's sometimes hit and miss. Do some searching online on different Jeep forums to find similar stories. Some guys like it and some guys don't . Kinda like ketchup on Kraft Dinner kind of thing?

I'm glad it works for some guys. I'll never do it again. Do it up and report back.