Dangerous Tires

[LifesGrand]

There is a 30 sec. Commercial at first --- and then the video.  The video is well worth watching.  Please watch until the end,
Because some of the most important stuff you need to hear and see are past the middle of the segment.  It could save your life or that of someone you love.  Pass it on after you've seen it.  I think you'll want to.

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Jason

[P-Dubb]

very good to know.. thanks for passing that along.

[hps4evr]

this was posted not long ago allready. i figure this report has no merit, seeing as how most folks these days are into buying oddball used tires.
a similar report came out a long while ago after firestone had their "issue". tires became the hot topic for the media. suv full of people rolls and kills everyone. they blamed the tires. even though they knew the tires were all low on air, low on tread and all 5 passengers werent wearing seatbelts, yep, must be the tires.
sorry media, im tired of society pointing fingers, passing the buck, playing the blame game.
step up folks, consequences for your actions. take responsibility for yourself.

woops, its only thursday and im venting...
ill post this on facebook

[yyc_tbird_sc]

You know....part of the Firestone problem was a leaky aluminum rim from Ford. I guess the metal was porous, and has in fact been an on going problem for many years now. There is a solution that you can coat the inside of the rim in some sort of sealant. But....

The main part of a dangerous tire, is one that is not maintained!! hps4evr got is right on the nail.....tires were low on pressure, and the people in the SUV weren't wearing seat belts. Now, I'm not saying that Firestone didn't have a problem with tread separation, but that wear would not have been anywhere near as evident if proper care was taken.

All the media does is focus on stuff to (so called) "protect" the consumer, rather than someone slapping the consumer up side the head with a dose of reality. How many people out there on the roads have no idea that they drive around at night without any tail lights because their dash lights come on automatically? or think that because they have a fancy car that it will tell them when there is a problem? Personally, this is good information but it is way too often blown out of context and the blame is forced onto manufacturers rather than on the end user in the first place. Educate yourself, and all those around you....it will most often go farther than anything else.

Hmmm...hps4evr got another thing right too....it must have been a long week....it's only thursday and I'm venting as well....oh well spring is coming and the warm  weather will help!

[hps4evr]

You know....part of the Firestone problem was a leaky aluminum rim from Ford. I guess the metal was porous, and has in fact been an on going problem for many years now. There is a solution that you can coat the inside of the rim in some sort of sealant. But....

The main part of a dangerous tire, is one that is not maintained!! hps4evr got is right on the nail.....tires were low on pressure, and the people in the SUV weren't wearing seat belts. Now, I'm not saying that Firestone didn't have a problem with tread separation, but that wear would not have been anywhere near as evident if proper care was taken.

All the media does is focus on stuff to (so called) "protect" the consumer, rather than someone slapping the consumer up side the head with a dose of reality. How many people out there on the roads have no idea that they drive around at night without any tail lights because their dash lights come on automatically? or think that because they have a fancy car that it will tell them when there is a problem? Personally, this is good information but it is way too often blown out of context and the blame is forced onto manufacturers rather than on the end user in the first place. Educate yourself, and all those around you....it will most often go farther than anything else.

Hmmm...hps4evr got another thing right too....it must have been a long week....it's only thursday and I'm venting as well....oh well spring is coming and the warm  weather will help!

this made me think a little. BMW's, if a bulb burns out the engine light comes on, you dont know why it came on but it did. you go to a dealer, or any shop, and they have to scan it, replace bulb, clear code. is the manufacturer any better? they build vehicles that drive themselves. they are taking the driver out of the car. how many full size trucks are offered with a manual transmission in 2010? dodge has one, i think ford has one in their super dutys.  people dont have a clue how to use their own vehicles.

case in point. this little vid blew my mind away. i knew the answer to toyotas latest "issue", but this video really underlines the real problem.
my venting has spread all over. everyone join in!

[Dagoose]

Great video. I had the exact same conversation with a friend the other day, why didn't they shift the car into neutral? The latest person had time to phone 911 and drive around for 20 minutes and couldn't figure out how to stop the vehicle.  There was another story of a police officer that is "more experience than the average driver" that couldn't figure out how to stop his vehicle. Maybe everyone should learn how to drive standard and understand how a vehicle works before they can drive an automatic blindly.

[dunl]

Great video. I had the exact same conversation with a friend the other day, why didn't they shift the car into neutral? The latest person had time to phone 911 and drive around for 20 minutes and couldn't figure out how to stop the vehicle.  There was another story of a police officer that is "more experience than the average driver" that couldn't figure out how to stop his vehicle. Maybe everyone should learn how to drive standard and understand how a vehicle works before they can drive an automatic blindly.

I've heard cases of automatics running off, and being too difficult to shift into neutral.  No clue if it is true or not.

[Dagoose]

I think that's why Toyota has been so insistent that the issue is mechanical and not electrical. Also, I'm not too sure of the validity. There are talks that because of the Prius' complex electrical system that's where the issues are coming from; Toyota insists that isn't the case.

I think vehicles should all go back to simple carburated engines to avoid all electrical problems, or move to Flintstone mobiles.

[LifesGrand]

this was posted not long ago allready. i figure this report has no merit, seeing as how most folks these days are into buying oddball used tires.
a similar report came out a long while ago after firestone had their "issue". tires became the hot topic for the media. suv full of people rolls and kills everyone. they blamed the tires. even though they knew the tires were all low on air, low on tread and all 5 passengers werent wearing seatbelts, yep, must be the tires.
sorry media, im tired of society pointing fingers, passing the buck, playing the blame game.
step up folks, consequences for your actions. take responsibility for yourself.

woops, its only thursday and im venting...
ill post this on facebook

What do you mean no merit? It sure as heck brought some awareness to myself & for that I'm thankful.. Let's see.. purchase a new tire off the rack a year to two years old or walk across the street to some other dude selling tires at "blowout prices", the same crap but twice as old? I don't know about you, but I'll be looking at the dates the next time I make a major purchase on rubber knowing this... This isn't an attempt to blame tires for these accidents, it's a piece awareness & knowledge that this "can" be a lead to so called premature tire failure. Before I saw this report, do you think that when I purchased used tires in the past that I would look at the year it was made, no.. I looked at the tread wear at walked on.. Not anymore though, I'm not putting full trust in tire wear, it's more then that now for "myself".

I owned an Exploder, there are more reasons then Firestone itself, multiple road tests have proven that tire blowouts couldn't cause Explorer rollovers.. The Explore had front end issues to begin with & cause premature tire wear, certain tires wroked for the X, others done in a year. Yes Firestone was partially to blame, bad driving was mostly at fault. Try renting a u-haul trailer for the X, forget it, won't happen, use to p iss me off.. but it's all about someone doing their part & the awareness behind it.

The choice is yours.. it's simple, safety & awareness is key.

[mike s]

Seen that web site "Wal-Mart Shoppers" showing....errrr...people, (sic) that have their pictures taken while shopping at the famed chain of stores? Manufactuers are make cars for these people to get saftely to and from walmart, but the vehicles must also have a competitive walmart like price. So the warning lights that come on may save lives, but I've seen alot of black tape covering up that stupid light that won't go out.

So if you had to build a car and not get sued by the old guy with breast implants and wearing a super man cape in public, cause he drove on flat unsafe tires ....you'd want to make it idiot proof too

[JackstandJohnny]

I think that's why Toyota has been so insistent that the issue is mechanical and not electrical. Also, I'm not too sure of the validity. There are talks that because of the Prius' complex electrical system that's where the issues are coming from; Toyota insists that isn't the case.

I think vehicles should all go back to simple carburated engines to avoid all electrical problems, or move to Flintstone mobiles.

do these cars not shut off when the key is turned too?  should be easy to switch it into neutral then too.  i've never seen an auto that can't slide into neutral.   these 'cars that drive themselves' are great; until the slightest thing goes wrong.  i remember once my buddies throttle on his old ford got stuck open coming out of a mud hole, and he was racing towards my truck, engine roaring.................... and BAM ........ no wait, he shut it down....... common sense?  quick reflexes?  sure.

[raf2379]

thanks for the video, I have a good power point to add. It explains the numbers you see on the tires and more, i have it hosted on rapid share here: http://rapidshare.com/files/363281145/TireSafety.pps.html if someone has a better place to host this power point please do so. this is verry good info.

thanks
raf