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PITBULL

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Re: hi all
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2010, 11:50:28 AM »
 i don't mean to ask so many questions but .....

with the 4" lift can you install that your self ?

like I'm smart and can install drift suspension and tune it to work so i think i can do it and from what i seen does not look that hard but looks can be deceiving lol

Offline Justink

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Re: hi all
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 12:19:58 PM »
The lift should just be as easy as putting new leafs in should it not? 
'89 Comanche 5'' 33's, dana 44 playtoy
'91 cherokee 4.5'' 31's DD
'88 Nissan 300zx just for fun
If it seems like a good idea at the time it probably isn't!

Offline slimbeam

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Re: hi all
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2010, 12:28:55 PM »
the lift isn't hard to install just remember to extend brakelines, swaybar connects, shocks etc. should even install a slip yoke eliminator(not included in kit) most lift kits should have everything you need, I would recommend the Rubicon Express lift
« Last Edit: March 09, 2010, 12:32:08 PM by slimbeam »
I started out with nothing and so far I have most of it left

PITBULL

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Re: hi all
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2010, 12:46:28 PM »
NATIONAL 4X4 HAS A 4.5 INCH LEAF LIFT WITH EVERYTHING FOR UNDER 600$ AND Rubicon Express lift IS OVER 1200 $

ITS SAYS  8"/BS=4-4.5 Required  WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ? AND WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS DONE ?

Offline Jrama

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Re: hi all
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 01:37:21 PM »
When ever you change you change one thing on your jeep you often have to change atleast one other aspect in order to make it livable/reliable/ drivable

For example if you get a 4" lift and 33" tires you should also upgrade the following

T case drop or Slip yoke eliminator ( Your drive shaft too short for a lift)

"ITS SAYS  8"/BS=4-4.5 Required" =  You need new rims to fit the bigger tires (so you don't rub when you turn)

Wider fender flares (its the law..I think)
Should upgrade your rear axle etc etc. (It's likely to break when  wheelin although some get away with it for awhile or simply never do it)

My advice is to go on Jeepforum.com and search all your questions or just head right over to the YJ technical forum and read the sticky's etc.
Thats probably the best and quickest way to get up to speed on Jeeps.

**Usually with lift kits you get what you pay for. The $600 one probably uses lesser quality components or simply doesn't come with everything the RE kit does.**

When I bought my lift I did a direct comparison between the the Zone 3" (cheap) and the BDS 3"(expensive) turns out you when you actually compare the components each kit contains you are only paying about 60 bucks more fore the BDS name but it came with a lifetime warrenty and had superior reputation.


« Last Edit: March 09, 2010, 01:41:01 PM by Jrama »

Offline BlackYJ

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Re: hi all
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2010, 01:50:00 PM »
Here is my input on the YJs.

First of all, listen to the other members and wheel your rig stock for a summer.  Trust us, you will thank us later, especially since by the sounds of it you have no off-roading experience.  Actually, you might curse us just a little, but like Pookapotmus said, but it is all in good fun.  You will learn what you Jeep can and can not do, but also learn to read the trails and pick the lines that will allow your rig to make it through the obstacles.  I wheeled my YJ stock for 2 years, and another year will just a suspension lift.  We have all been then before.  Check out the info CJA Jeep 101 course being held in June.  It is a course designed to teach beginners the basic skills to offroading Jeeps.

As Blair mentioned a rig on 33s, like his or mine can be very capable and keep up with the big rigs with the right driver.  A YJ with 35s and 7" of lift is a very big rig for a new driver and trust you will be wanting to change your shorts A LOT especially when you got off camber, just ask Swampsinger.  I noticed a big difference even going from 31s to 33s on the off camber stuff.  I daily drove my rig until a few years ago and still drive mine most days in the summer.  

Now onto the mods

DO NOT BUY A CHEAP SUSPENSION LIFT, your body will thank you later.  The cheap lifts tend to have stiff springs and even stiffer shocks.  Do not cheap out on shocks either.  If you are looking for a great starter suspension that will allow you to run 31s and eventually 33s with a few upgrades you CAN NOT beat the Old Man Emu (OME) suspension by ARB, great onroad ride and amazing flex.  The downfalls are it is only a 2.5" lift and probably around $1500.  My first suspension was an OME lift and I ran 31s for about 3 or 4 years and I went a lot of places especially once I got a rear locker.  I then added a 1" body lift and 1"shackle lift and stepped up to 33s, and that is where it sits today.  I have since replaced the OME springs with a custom set of 3.5" Alcan springs that are awesome.  Great onraod and flex extremely wellGoing right into a 4" lift can lead to a bunch of issues if not done properly.  As stated above, with that size of a lift, you will probably have to install a slip yoke eliminator kit because the drive shaft angle will be too steep and the joint will bind.  Also brakelines are another issue.  Sprung under lifts are definitel doable

As for tires, going to 33s really starts to push the limits of the stock axles in a YJ, especially the rear if you are not easy on the skinny pedal or have upgrade the parts.  A good set of mud terrains is key and the actually tire will depend on the type of wheeling you like to do.  Then with larger tires you are going to need to re gear the axles to maintain power and driveability.

So in closing, come on out to a few meeting, hit the trails for a couple stocker runs and really fig out what you want to do with your rig and then big it from there

If you have any questions, please ask
'95 YJ with a few mods