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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2010, 10:14:20 AM »
I posted this on jeep forum we'll see what kind of feedback I get, since it was my first post it took a while to get "approved"
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/pulling-transmission-issues-1121166/

I plan in wiggling it more tonight based on Johnnys feedback, tweaking the height and angles of both the engine and the transmission. but yeah this thing is kicking my arse.
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Offline LukeDuke

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2010, 11:21:21 AM »
I had a similar problem when pulling the trans on the YJ. After pulling and prying I finally let the pressure off then put the trans in 5th and rotated the output back and forth. Turns out that the  input shaft on the trans had groves worn in it from the spines of the clutch. Just had to hold your tongue just right  :P and it slipped apart easy. When i was done i just cleaned up the splines on the trans shaft and slipped it back in for another 280K of service.
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2010, 04:18:39 PM »


This is the bearing that was stuck on the input shaft of the transmission to get at it I had to remove the clutch plate bolts with the transmission still attached

So my question is do I need to remove this bearing too?


I have 2 bearings in a bag and can't figure out if I need them both
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2010, 04:20:07 PM »
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Offline JackstandJohnny

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2010, 06:24:54 PM »
looks like you pulled the pilot bearing apart.  interesting.  that would explain why you couldn't get theinput shaft outa the clutch assembly i imagine.

pop the outer race of the pilo bearing out of the crank (its still in there) and use the big bearing in the kit.
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Offline Rubi03 jef

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2010, 08:38:47 PM »
i have  a bearing puller if you need to use it to remove the rest of that bearin
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2010, 08:48:52 AM »
I'm ok on the puller, I was watching youtube with the wife cause I mentioned the grease trick that I didn't really want to do and we saw a wet paper method. Same idea, except you pack shredded wet paper behind it and hammer a socked or whatever into the gap, it worked quite well, it even cleaned the old grease out of the crevices for me :P
edit: here is the video we watched, it did actually work that easily, the only difference for me was I needed 3 and a bit pieces of soaked paper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xuR7T8G1Ys

In process of putting it all back together should be finishing up tonight.

Oh and for what it's worth,all the trouble the transmission gave me when I was pulling it, it slid back in first second push, 2 minute operation. haha, my modified floor jack worked quite well.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 01:44:03 PM by Knox »
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Offline jkrubi

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2010, 05:04:09 PM »
Wow that is an amazing video. Never seen that befor.

Offline CatSplat

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2010, 06:52:01 PM »
That shredded paper trick is friggin' genius.
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2010, 09:17:06 PM »
don't get me wrong, I definitely had my doubts, I mean how efficient of a hydraulic material could wet paper be... but it really worked quite well
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Offline Vinman

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2010, 09:36:10 PM »
I mean how efficient of a hydraulic material could wet paper be...

The water is efficient enough to bend connecting rods...
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2010, 10:56:05 PM »
Muah ha ha

It's alive let's just hope it's not too cold tomorrow cause the softop is still down :P
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2010, 08:32:19 AM »
bah, had issues getting to work this morning, half way there it decided it didn't want to shift into gear very easily. It was a struggle to get the rest of the way.

When I hold the pedal in the whole way and the tranny is in first or second the jeep still wants to move forward, so that tells me its not disengaged fully...

the only component I didn't  replace is the slave, that a pretty safe bet? The master is new, and the brake fluid is as full as it will go, doesn't appear to be leaking anywhere

any ideas?
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Offline JackstandJohnny

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2010, 08:48:25 AM »
air in the system. needs to be bled yo.
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Offline Knox

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Re: Still pulling the transmission
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2010, 09:04:04 AM »
well that's something I can do before I leave work at least, even have a jug of dot 3 with me today
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"Your TJ has the aerodynamics of a brick"
"if you lose the stick, chances are you'll lose the jeep......"