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Offline Alltornup

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2011, 11:13:19 PM »
As said experience is key. Fall back in the pack and keep your eyes open, put someone with experience in front of you and a simular rig as you have. watch and learn and test youself.

Or learn like most everyone else does though out life....The hard way.   It's funny how much lighter you hit the skinny pedal after you've destroyed your rig or two.

Offline scott slade

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2011, 12:52:50 AM »
The majority of my wheeling has been out in the Mojave and Death Valley... out there you do not want to force it and break it..!!!  but force through the soft sand, crawl through the ruts, rocks and hills...  I think it all becomes a personal choice and what kind of rig you run.....  but hey, live and learn... if you break it, don't do the same thing again... or rebuild it stronger so you can do it again and not break it this time...!!!   8)
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Offline Evil-Jeep

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2011, 10:21:47 AM »
No mention of the Jeep 101 course yet.....

Look for when the next Jeep 101 is held this year, and make sure you go........ there is much you can learn by watching and much to learn by doing.
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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2011, 12:16:42 PM »
I was at the january meeting and heard of that. I look forward to going and testing my ride and my knowledge, while improving my skills
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Offline cLAY

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2011, 06:29:27 PM »
I have a saying, "If you didn't get stuck you didn't wheel hard enough. If you broke you wheeled too hard......"     :D

Its right up there with:  "Having a winch just means you can get stuck worse"

Don't even get me started on the economics of the "anyways" and the "might as wells"!

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Offline mtngoat

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2011, 08:55:15 AM »
In my past experience of wheeling years back, I can now look back and see where I would have done things different. I believe picking the right line for your rigs capability is key. Once you have picked your line, using the proper amount of speed and  throttle to make your way through. Sometimes it does mean that you put your foot to the floor. Do not let your ego get the better of you, this can cost a lot of $$$$.

Offline Jrama

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2011, 09:37:49 AM »
 
Wheelin should not be considered primarily skill or force, rather primarily good Judgement. How do you make a good judgment? from experience and knowledge (as previously mentioned). Really,The only skill involved is learning to drive stick if you have a manual.  And if force is your primary philosphy behind wheelin, then really wheelin could be complimented by anything violent, for example you could combine your love of arson and wheelin to really maximize your enjoyment out in the bush
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Offline silverfox

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2011, 08:33:22 PM »

Wheelin should not be considered primarily skill or force, rather primarily good Judgement. How do you make a good judgment? from experience and knowledge (as previously mentioned). Really,The only skill involved is learning to drive stick if you have a manual. And if force is your primary philosphy behind wheelin, then really wheelin could be complimented by anything violent, for example you could combine your love of arson and wheelin to really maximize your enjoyment out in the bush

Not to be a jerk but I am going to have to disagree with that statement.

The only skill involved is manning the stick?

What do you do when you are rolling down an icy hill backwards?

What about rolling down forwards? Brakes? No Brakes?  Feather the Brakes?

What about coming into a corner? Brake?  Clutch? Throttle? No Throttle?

Going up the hill, 4Lo in 4th or 5th or 4 Hi in 1st or 2nd?

Drop off or climbing a ledge.........straight on approach or angled?  




Oh and too be clear............I don't know the answers to all of the above in every circumstance but I am learning  :o  Sometimes the hard way :-[
« Last Edit: February 08, 2011, 08:35:31 PM by SilverFox »
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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2011, 08:37:49 PM »
And now we are back to experience and knowledge.... which should get you into the realm of good judgement.

This is just going to go around and around.... isn't it?  >:(
« Last Edit: February 08, 2011, 08:40:44 PM by Immortal »
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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2011, 08:39:38 PM »

This is just going to around and around.... isn't it?  >:(

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Offline Tyn Pow

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2011, 08:54:49 PM »
And if force is your primary philosphy behind wheelin, then really wheelin could be complimented by anything violent, for example you could combine your love of arson and wheelin to really maximize your enjoyment out in the bush

WTF???

Offline Jrama

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Re: Wheeling- Force or Finesse?
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2011, 09:27:45 PM »
And now we are back to experience and knowledge.... which should get you into the realm of good judgement.

This is just going to go around and around.... isn't it?  >:(



Not to be a jerk but I am going to have to disagree with that statement.

The only skill involved is manning the stick?

What do you do when you are rolling down an icy hill backwards?

What about rolling down forwards? Brakes? No Brakes?  Feather the Brakes?

What about coming into a corner? Brake?  Clutch? Throttle? No Throttle?

Going up the hill, 4Lo in 4th or 5th or 4 Hi in 1st or 2nd?

Drop off or climbing a ledge.........straight on approach or angled?  




Oh and too be clear............I don't know the answers to all of the above in every circumstance but I am learning  :o  Sometimes the hard way :-[

You are absolutely right, however my oversimplification of the skill  involved was to emphasize the point that  some people are  overstressing  skills and not basing enough value in experience. For example knowing which gear to shift into isn't a skill...it best comes from experience and knowledge. Straight approach or angled? again experience  will teach you all these things and more! Rolling down a icey hill? sure you may know what to do (knowledge), but experience certainly is when you really learn. Combining the two gives you guess what? good judgment. Maybe adding a diiferent perspective to existing ideas is useful? just my 2 cents.

WTF..???. Essentially I'm using whats known as a metaphor (google is your friend here ;)). I'm comparing sensless destruction (arson) to just hitting every obstacle with a wide open throttle... its pointless and your just going to wreck things

To me, this thread has been beatin over enough, just go out and wheel the heep tons it will answer all your questions
« Last Edit: February 08, 2011, 10:03:10 PM by Jrama »