Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => General Talk => Topic started by: Pookapotamus on June 22, 2009, 01:27:57 PM
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There is a recall for my 92 cherokee for the front rotors so when i got the truck 6 months ago i phoned big 4 and asked them about it and the service girl said if there is nothing wrong with the front brakes don't do it now, do it when something goes wrong. So i found a big crack in the drivers side last weekend and phoned up the same girl today and she says bring it in and we will see if it has ever had the rotors changed so i did. then she phones me back and says they are aftermarket and the recall cant be done (which i can totaly understand) so i ask how do they know that it has aftermarket rotors is it by partnumber? she says no we just look at them! :o so i think to my self wait if you just look at them you cant prove that they are not factory. i do understand that the jeep has 275,000 km on it and its 18 years old but i have every service record for it from 1999 forwards and never have the front brakes been changed of had anything done to them.
should i persue this farther as they cannot prove that it has aftermarket rotors? or should i just let it go. i guess what ticks me off is the first time i phoned she was ready to order parts and book me in, then talked me out of it and said come back when you have problems. also i know a buddy with a comanchee that had this recall done as well and they did not ask him if he had aftermarket rotors (which he did ) but they did the recall anyway.
i could really use a free brake job. what does the forum think?
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don't bother. they did recalls on 99 - 02 WJs cause they had some of the worst brakes ever put on a chyrsler vehicle, however, the recall was only good to 36000 miles. yours is probalby no good either; like, a decade and a half ago. figure it this way; it was a factory problem and chances are you do not have factory discs anymore considering the vehicles 18 years old. worth a try i guess
personally i'd just pony up the 80$ for new pads and rotors and be done with it........ unless you wanna fight with them, then deal with being carless for a few days, not to mention all the other stuff they just might 'fix' (cause its in the shop right? might as well) all 'just cause' your entitled to a 18 year old recall........ with my WJ i had everything swapped out in less time than it would have taken to bring the damn thing down to the dealership..... my .02 personally i don't want mechanics touching anything i own again, except maybe Eric ;) (hps4ever)
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Or try another dealer.
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personally i don't want mechanics touching anything i own again
they told me i need new sway bar links, i just put a new set in 3 months ago and gave the lady a peice of my mind for that one >:(
i called napa and for better than factory brakes( ceramic with slotted rotors and new calipers ) i am looking at $600 :o $400 for regular rotors. i wont cheep out on my brakes and get the $52 dollar rotors!
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i was thinking of trying another dealer but do i really want factory brakes? these ones are over heating on me any way!
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i called napa and for better than factory brakes( ceramic with slotted rotors and new calipers ) i am looking at $600 :o $400 for regular rotors. i wont cheep out on my brakes and get the $52 dollar rotors!
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what do you think the dealership is going to use?
using the factory/cheep stuff from napa is not 'cheaping' out on your brakes. cheaping out is going to PNP and pulling brakes off something in the yard. THATS cheap!
keep in mind too that you can almost get a new set of tires for the money your thinking of dumping on brakes...........
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but if i go with the 52 dollar rotors and cheep metalic pads wont i just be replacing them next year?
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http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/brakes/xj_wjbrakes03/
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that looks great dunl but i have antilock brakes in my xj will this still work?
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but if i go with the 52 dollar rotors and cheep metalic pads wont i just be replacing them next year?
how old are the ones on ur jeep now? maybe they're just due? i would just do the new set with new calipers/discs and pads, call it good. next year if you KNOW you went through pads/discs becuase of how you drive then i'd upgrade. personally on the YJ i don't care. it stops eventually so is all good ;) i don't drive real fast though or like a sports car!
btw, the WJ upgrade should work. my WJ had antiloc brakes so should swap over. there are aftermarket brake kits out there too make sure it comes off a 03/04........ the 99 - 02 brakes suck. they had a recall on them too ;)
good luck with it man!
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wow i got a lot to think about :o i will run on my cracked rotor for a while untill i decide what to do i just wont do anything heavy. sigh no weeling for me for a while :'(
thanks for all your help guys
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wow i got a lot to think about :o i will run on my cracked rotor for a while untill i decide what to do i just wont do anything heavy. sigh no weeling for me for a while :'(
thanks for all your help guys
I have replaced my rotors with the $30 special from Crappy Tire and they work just fine. My last set of brake pads lasted 3 years and that was running 31s and 33s and a lot of wheeling. From what I have read during my web wheeling, the slotted rotors are not worth the money as they don't really improve braking. If you want some good pads check out EBC
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for 100$ u can be up and running again............ not sure why your still debating it........... its a jeep man, thats a cheap fix.......... and i'tll last more than a year...... you'll break many other things before u need brakes again. might as well save up for that!
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hmmmm... so many things i could jump all over;)
i thought i recognized that station wagon in the shop today...
dude, when it comes to brakes, steering and tires. dont cheap out. those are the 3 most important things on your vehicle. if you dont want dealership parts then go aftermarket. but spend the extra cash and get good parts.
p.s. thanks for the kind words johnny!
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I think I've got a couple used XJ rotors sittin in the garage you can have just to keep ya goin and get rid of the cracked junk!
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no worries eric! but truth be told, i've let Lemon Aid Jay work on my junk too, and he's good too! lol
sounds like a pretty good solution for ya pook! grab some used rotors and continue your debate!
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that would be sweet then i can finish the interior befor the show & shine and decide later what to do about the brakes and also go wheeling again!!!
let me know where you are and if you still have those rotors and i will come pick them up.
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Give me a call tonight after 5 ill have a look once I get home.
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I have replaced my rotors with the $30 special from Crappy Tire and they work just fine. My last set of brake pads lasted 3 years and that was running 31s and 33s and a lot of wheeling. From what I have read during my web wheeling, the slotted rotors are not worth the money as they don't really improve braking. If you want some good pads check out EBC
CT has a buy one get the other rotor at 1/2 price sale on right now as well
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Give me a call tonight after 5 ill have a look once I get home.
sorry i was way too busy last night and tonight i have to start the wife's stereo install ;) tomorrow is date night, how does saturday look for you?
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No worries, ya I should be around in the day on sat. Give me a call
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will do. thanks
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my garage is too full to lend the space but let me know how it works out. been using napa stuff for a couple of years on own/customers cars and kinda let down, espesially for the price they charge, autovalue deals with worldpac which gets brembo stuff, very good parts.
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In regards to the "recall" on the WJ Brakes.. it wasnt a recall but an extended service allowance in regrads to the WJ rotors warping. Most manufacturers have an initial grace period on the friction material, on the WJ's its was extended and there were "upgraded " parts available for the TSB, however, they warp aswell.
In regrads to the techs knowing if front rotors are Original fitment or not? There is a clip on the rotor installed at the factory. If its gone the recall cannot be performed.
Any good tech that has been servicing JEEPS can spot a OEM rotor. The guys at Big 4 have been pretty good, There are a couple newr techs there but they have a pretty good crew.
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In regards to the "recall" on the WJ Brakes.. it wasnt a recall but an extended service allowance in regrads to the WJ rotors warping. Most manufacturers have an initial grace period on the friction material, on the WJ's its was extended and there were "upgraded " parts available for the TSB, however, they warp aswell.
In regrads to the techs knowing if front rotors are Original fitment or not? There is a clip on the rotor installed at the factory. If its gone the recall cannot be performed.
Any good tech that has been servicing JEEPS can spot a OEM rotor. The guys at Big 4 have been pretty good, There are a couple newr techs there but they have a pretty good crew.
if you've gone this long on a set of stock WJ rotors thats just plain impressive..................
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dude, when it comes to brakes, steering and tires. dont cheap out. those are the 3 most important things on your vehicle. if you dont want dealership parts then go aftermarket. but spend the extra cash and get good parts.
p.s. thanks for the kind words johnny!
I totally agree. after some of my experience with cheap brake pads, I will always buy Raybestos Premium brake parts. It isn't worth cheaping out. I had an Intrepid years ago and opted for cheaper pads as recommended by a mechanic, and I was very surprised at the lack of stopping power the cheap ones had. It was scary! NEVER again!
Just my $0.02