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Title: Bed Liner?
Post by: T-BOAN on December 27, 2009, 06:42:27 PM
I am going to coat my stock fender flares with a bed-liner coating. There are a few do-it yourself kits out there. Any kits you would recommend or stay away from? I don't want to take my four fenders to a bed-liner shop and I will probably do it in my garage. Is a spray on kit better than a roll on kit?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: esi on December 27, 2009, 09:29:46 PM
check an  auto body part store. You used to be able to get a kit that came with a gun and everything you'll need
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: T-BOAN on December 29, 2009, 12:07:58 AM
What about "kits" that you can buy from CrappyTire? Anyone try it out?
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: cablesmurf on December 29, 2009, 01:09:53 AM
Hippo liner, Gator Guard II and the new one that is at CT are all made by Dominion sure seal. I've used Gator Guard and Hippo liner with excellent results. They are a 2 part epoxy, which I like. I used Duplicolor's pre mix and it worked fine, but I feel the GG and HL were superior.

Spray it if you want it tl look professional. These were all sprayed with a $25 Shutz gun from CT @ 30 -40 psi.

Duplicolour
(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/Bed%20done%202.JPG)

Gator Guard II
(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/Gator%20Tracker.JPG)

Hippo Liner
(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/Hiipo%20side%20XJ.JPG)

Gator Guard II
(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/Gator%20Guard%20II%20on%2097%20XJ.JPG)

Gator Guard II
(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/The%20Stuff.JPG)

Hippo Liner
(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/Hippo%20Liner.jpg)
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: T-BOAN on December 29, 2009, 05:37:20 AM
Thank you for your reply and the pics buddy. I appreciate it. I'll pick up a kit and spray gun soon. Have to wait till it warms up a bit before I try this in my garage.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: i_go_commando on December 30, 2009, 12:27:22 AM
what did you use to clean up the gun with afterwards. was there a lot of overspray. did you have to think out the bedliner to spray it?
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: cablesmurf on December 30, 2009, 01:46:30 PM
It was easy to spray. Yes, lots of overspray. Masking is the hardest part. Use dropclothes for the floor... You need them. Used varasol to clean the gun. Fill than and spray it thru don't get it on your clothes. It'll never come off. Use rubber gloves unless you want to wear it for a week. Makensure your surface prep is done properly or it can peel or chip. Don't over saturate. Peel the tape before it dries or it may not come off.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: RckyMtnTJ on December 30, 2009, 01:57:30 PM
I did my interior tub with Durabak.  Very durable and available in lots of colors.  I used a paint brush for mine, but afterwards saw it done with a spray gun.  Spray gun is definitely the way to go.  Only drawback to Durabak, not very available in Canada.  I got mine from the US.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: cablesmurf on December 30, 2009, 03:07:25 PM
If anyone is interested, I will spray rockers, tubs and truck beds. If you do the prep work I will spray it in my heated garage for $200 + cost of material. $400 + material if I do the prep work. Coloured liner is available.

Dan
403 618-2678
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: morerpmfred on December 30, 2009, 05:54:32 PM
How did they ship the durabak ? I understand there is a hazardus material shipping across the border problem with the ups , fed ex usps etc
Really like some of the colers they have.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: RckyMtnTJ on December 30, 2009, 07:00:39 PM
I live in Lethbridge, so I ordered it to the US side of the border and drove down and picked it up along with a number of other goodies.  I did it about 9 years ago.  Its holding up well.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Spinalguy on December 31, 2009, 10:25:54 AM
LINE X on  42nd street at Blackfoot does extraordinary work.
It will cost less, be done better than buying material and having someone else do it for you.
My 8.5 foot longbox cost me $400.
My rocker panels in Blue cost $600.
Speak with Craig. Use my name as a reference for a better deal. i know that someone on here is at Line X north but the 'deal' they offered me was nowhere close to Craig's deal.

But, it will not adhere to PLASTIC.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Spinalguy/12%20valve/421719fc.jpg)
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: after6queers on December 31, 2009, 12:23:35 PM
Also try Rhino Lining beside Chanda I am getting my bumpers done there and am getting a really good deal!! Give you an oppurtunity to shop around as Line-X and Rhino are less then 5 minutes apart.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Rich99 on June 17, 2010, 06:10:05 PM
If anyone is interested, I will spray rockers, tubs and truck beds. If you do the prep work I will spray it in my heated garage for $200 + cost of material. $400 + material if I do the prep work. Coloured liner is available.

Dan
403 618-2678

Dan, what would you charge me to do my TJ Grill?
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: cablesmurf on June 18, 2010, 12:59:45 AM
Just the grill? I would do the edge of the hood and the front of the fenders too. These are common spots for rock chips and rusting. $100 plus material. Works out to be about $150.

Here's how it looked on my tracker...

(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/Tacker%2001%2007.JPG)

(http://members.shaw.ca/samdog/wheelin%20030207/DCP_1637.JPG)
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: 01sahara on June 18, 2010, 07:51:07 AM
One other product to look at is the Raptor Bedliner. It is more costly but has really good reviews as one of the best product you can buy to spray on.  We did the interior of my jeep and 75% of the exterior in it. It is holding up well after a year. We also sprayed a coat of  gloss black automotive epoxy over it as a tack coat. You can scratch the top layer but it has kept the bedliner from getting that dull grey look.

Nice work Dan. I would agree with Dan. Do the grill but also the front of the hood and the front edge on the fenders. 
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Knox on June 18, 2010, 01:45:15 PM
what kind of prep work is associated with grill/hood/bumper spraying?
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: SilverTJ on June 18, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
I know when I got it done I removed the bumper, the lights, the flares, and most of the hardware holding the fenders and the rad to the grill.  Beyond that I know the area needs to be clean and the paint scuffed for adhesion.  And mask everything really well because the liner needs to be sprayed from a greater distance than paint so there is a lot of overspray.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: PITBULL on June 19, 2010, 11:22:03 AM
the grill is a pain but fix any rust you may have scuff it prep it theres is not such thing as over preping or cleaning and then spray you need a special gun and befor you spray check the air pressure
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: cablesmurf on June 19, 2010, 12:20:18 PM
Yup, you need a Shutz gun and a couple empty Shutz cans and your pressure needs to be around 30 - 40 psi depending on the texture you desire. Prep is 90% of the work and the most important step. It will make the difference between a shat job and a great job. It's like they say in the paint biz, your paint job is only as good as the guy behind the gun...
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: LLYJ on July 09, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
I am spraying in my duplicolour liner tomorrow.  I noticed the nozzle part of the gun is adjustable so my question is should I position the nozzle so the gun is as "long" as possible, will this reduce overspray, or is it better to leave a wide pattern, and increase overlap on the spray pattern and have to nozzle as short as possible.

Unfortuneately I only picked up one empty shutz can so I guess I'll have to reload pretty quick or do the job in sections - I suspect since the duplicolour is premixed so that won't be such a big problem.

I bought an extra can so may do the inside of the trunk of my fire chicken too, also an axe handle too while I'm at it. (just to see how well that works)

Finally got the reccomended temps tomorrow so any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: cablesmurf on July 09, 2010, 05:19:04 PM
Try a test spot. Pick the position you like best. Use lots of drop cloths...that shat gets everywhere.

Because the duplicolor is a premix, it doesn't dry too quickly, so you'll have lots of time to reload. Be patient and take your time. Do multiple thin coats. don't cake it on.

good luck.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Dracitamo on March 27, 2012, 01:45:25 PM
pulling up an old thread as it's been discussed in a few threads but they are pretty old. Looking for any updated information on this if anyone has any advice.
I called Line-X today and they told me it would cost 5 grand and they aren't willing to do it. (I wouldn't pay 5 grand for this anyway)
I'm looking to rip my carpet out and all the felt above and line it with "something". (just to keep it clean looking and the look I want) I will also be building a custom tool box that is removeable that I will want coated with something to make it a little more durable and possibly a custom sub box.
Does anyone have any advice on the materials that are available in todays market and what holds up the best?
Sending Dan a PM but open to others advice.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: specialk on March 27, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
I have used Shake n Shoot before.  Not as thick as Line-X but you could build it up and it is more brittle and prone to chipping, but a kits is around 80-100 bones so you could use 2 or 3 and and only be in for 300 or so for the interior
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 28, 2012, 03:34:24 PM
pulling up an old thread as it's been discussed in a few threads but they are pretty old. Looking for any updated information on this if anyone has any advice.
I called Line-X today and they told me it would cost 5 grand and they aren't willing to do it. (I wouldn't pay 5 grand for this anyway)
I'm looking to rip my carpet out and all the felt above and line it with "something". (just to keep it clean looking and the look I want) I will also be building a custom tool box that is removeable that I will want coated with something to make it a little more durable and possibly a custom sub box.
Does anyone have any advice on the materials that are available in todays market and what holds up the best?
Sending Dan a PM but open to others advice.
you will strip the interior and than you want it sprayed to below windows i assume as well as a tool box? Do i have that right?
Maybe be more descriptive of the vehicle and what exactly you want done.
My entire interior stripped jeep was brought to line-x and including the wheel wells for less than a grand.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Spinalguy/CJ5/P1090539.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Spinalguy/CJ5/P1090544.jpg)
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Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Dingleberry on March 28, 2012, 04:00:19 PM
On my last XJ I just used a $10 can of Rocker Guard from Canadian Tire. 1 can coated everything underneath the carpet (except in the hatch area).
I plan on doing the same thing with my current XJ.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Dracitamo on March 30, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'm looking to coat a 97 XJ (2 door). Yes, below the windows as you stated, but I want to remove the felt up above and do something to the roof inside the jeep. Probably the backside of the rear seat when it's down. Or I may have to get some custom seats for the rear. It's just an idea and if I can't then I won't but less stuff to collect water the better. I will be swapping out the seats for some seats Jay has me sold on. I just need to stop drinking beers after work so I can afford them.  ::) Is there any legal thing about the rear seats? Can I remove the bench and put two individual seats?

Shake and shoot - if it's prone to chipping, I don't want it. I want something that can take a diff sliding across it.

Reason for wanting to do this: after a wheeling trip and covered in mud, or blood from animals when going hunting, I want to be able to take it to a car wash or just hose it down in the back lane. So with the felt out from the roof, I won't have to worry about it getting soaked when I spray it down. I know I can't do the hatch without some major modifications to it and I'm still debating it and planning that all out, but I might get something fabbed up to cover everything and allow space for speakers and wires. I have a few idea's, I just have to think them through and draft them up.

Toolbox: Yes, I was thinking about making a custom toolbox that was removeable and came up to the height of the seats in the rear. Adjustable placement, and 3 sections. Kinda like a sectional couch but better latching system to keep them secured.

I know what I want is going to run me a pretty penny, but I'm okay with that. Just was looking for idea's what to use for the coating. (if anyone does any sheet metal fab work and would be interested in working something out, it would be good to see if what I'm thinking is even possible.)
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Dingleberry on March 30, 2012, 07:58:03 PM
Remember you could always buy marine-speakers (waterproof) to replace the stock ones.
As for the hatch I'd remove the plastic panel to access all the wiring, use die-electric grease on any multi-sockets and silicone anything else, then put the plastic panel back on (after coating the metal with bedliner of course).
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Spinalguy on March 30, 2012, 09:54:47 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'm looking to coat a 97 XJ (2 door). Yes, below the windows as you stated, but I want to remove the felt up above and do something to the roof inside the jeep. Probably the backside of the rear seat when it's down. Or I may have to get some custom seats for the rear. It's just an idea and if I can't then I won't but less stuff to collect water the better. I will be swapping out the seats for some seats Jay has me sold on. I just need to stop drinking beers after work so I can afford them.  ::) Is there any legal thing about the rear seats? Can I remove the bench and put two individual seats?

Shake and shoot - if it's prone to chipping, I don't want it. I want something that can take a diff sliding across it.

Reason for wanting to do this: after a wheeling trip and covered in mud, or blood from animals when going hunting, I want to be able to take it to a car wash or just hose it down in the back lane. So with the felt out from the roof, I won't have to worry about it getting soaked when I spray it down. I know I can't do the hatch without some major modifications to it and I'm still debating it and planning that all out, but I might get something fabbed up to cover everything and allow space for speakers and wires. I have a few idea's, I just have to think them through and draft them up.

Toolbox: Yes, I was thinking about making a custom toolbox that was removeable and came up to the height of the seats in the rear. Adjustable placement, and 3 sections. Kinda like a sectional couch but better latching system to keep them secured.

I know what I want is going to run me a pretty penny, but I'm okay with that. Just was looking for idea's what to use for the coating. (if anyone does any sheet metal fab work and would be interested in working something out, it would be good to see if what I'm thinking is even possible.)
if you strip the interior, i am sure i can get you a good price on line-x. i like durability as well. my line x in my truck regularly sees spike tire in and out. Not even  mark.
i can arrange for you to see Craig and get a proper price.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: specialk on March 30, 2012, 10:55:02 PM
Line X is top notch...   hands down winner when outsourcing.... 

Just for clarification on shake and shoot... i have used it on my bumper.  When it meets Oldsmobiles and boulders, it chips.   It has held up other than that.  for a DIY,  you can't beat it.  For the interior, as I said, it sprays thin as most DIYs do.  Multiple coats and you will be happy, and brag that you diy'd it..   Prep and you should have no problems.

I will be shooting the inside of my rig and the sons MJ with Shake n Shoot....   If my boy could afford a Line X job in the truck bed of the MJ, I would highly recommend it...  on  a budget....  it will be a DIY job and suffer the patches when needed...
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Dracitamo on April 01, 2012, 01:00:29 AM
I've looked into marine speakers. They are too expensive and don't have the sound I am looking for. Thanks for the suggestion. I have decided what I'm doing for speakers. No more concern for speakers in the hatch. I have the Kenwood KDC-X996 receiver. If you are debating what deck to get, this one is amazing and has a decent price. Speakers and amps I'm going with all Hertz - 2 MLK165 speakers  in the front doors and then 2 XH250D 10" subs,  with 2 HDP 1 amps  and 1 HDP 4 amp built and wired into the custom tool box in the rear of the jeep.  This is why I want it sectional as the subs would be on the sides facing down, with the mono amps above, and the HDP 4 amp in the middle section with quick disconnection for easy removal. This system will blow away the infinity's I have in there now.  I'll throw some pics up of the build of sectionals and system and how they will work when I get it done. Anyone who plans on trying to break into the jeep, just be warned that my alarm system might be wired into speakers. Good luck with your bleeding eardrums.
As I said, I want to do this full custom. Not to the extent that Brian is at, as I won't be doing any competitions, but it will be a great hunting/recreational wheeling vehicle and great for camping. I'm happy with my lift and I have a few other upgrades that I want to do right away, but honestly... do we every stop wanting to upgrade?
That was a lot of detail, but hopefully it gives you an idea of what I want, and the bed liner is be base coat that all this will be based from.

So back on topic:
I've been talking with cablesmurf about Gator Guard. Sounds interesting. Shake and Shoot sounds like something I could use on my bumpers.
Gator Guard, Shake and Shoot, Rhino. Those are my choices. As of now, I'm leaning towards Gator Guard, but it would be nice to see some samples sometime of stuff out there in person. I appreciate Spinal showing his pics of his rig and the nice Line-X job, it's nice, but whoever I talked to when I was trying to get a price at Line-X put a really bad taste when it comes to customer service.
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Spinalguy on April 01, 2012, 11:06:34 AM
This is a  good review of all the DIY products out there:

There are many D-I-Y bed liner coatings available. With the exception of few, most products are designed only for spray application and are not optimized or well suited to roller installation. Listed below, you will find most of the items on the market considered to be do-it-yourself coatings but they are far from professional quality or consistent in texture and appearance.       
                                 
                                 
     

Monstaliner™ is the only do-it-yourself product on the market that is capable of providing professional looking results with roller installation and is UV Permanent as well.

Note: The information provided below is our honest opinion of products we have used and tested ourselves. We have purchased every one of these items either in stores or online. If we say something negative about a product it is based on our real experience and knowledge as a paint manufacturer. These reviews are meant to be informative but you should be doing your own research as well. There are plenty of opinions and write-ups of these products online, in forums and on buying sites. If you have any comments or questions, please send us an email to [email protected]
         
                              

Here's our latest list as of March 2011
                  
                  
         
                     

Herculiner Truck Bed Liner holds the top spot in popularity mainly because it was the first do-it-yourself bedliner on the market. Herculiner admittedly has poor UV stability leaving many users disappointed when the product fades and looks like trash in 3 to 9 months. Contains a heavy concentration of crumb rubber (ground up tires) to create its texture. Rubber particles tend to settle easily in the liquid coating and constant mixing is needed to avoid an uneven and splotchy final texture. Herculiner's surface can be very difficult to clean and may require high water pressure and intense scrubbing to dislodge dirt and mud that gets stuck between the rubber particles. The coatings surface can also be very rough when rubbed against your skin and can literally "take the skin off your bare knees" if not careful when moving around the bed. The company now offers a UV topcoat protectant to keep it "looking new" as their website says. Herculiner is manufactured in South Africa by Duram Paint for Old World Industries who owns Peak brand antifreeze. Herculiner is an aromatic (non UV stable) single component moisture cure urethane. Kit contains 1 gallon of coating, roller, brush, scuff pad and can opener - #HCL1B8, $90.00 - $100.00 Note: Claims by the company regarding dry film thickness are subject to interpretation. When Herculiner film thickness is measured, false readings are obtained because rubber particles stand up high in a thin film coating. Dry film thickness is really only 4 to 6 mils.

Durabak is manufactured by the same company that makes Herculiner and comes in two versions, one with no UV stability and the second version does claim to be UV stable for a 35% premium. Both contain crumb rubber and are single component moisture cure urethanes. Durabak has the same issues as Herculiner with roughness, uniformity of texture and a hard to clean surface. 1 gallon includes roller - $90.00 for non-UV product / $120.00 for UV protection. These links show that Durabak is the exact same product as Herculiner.
http://www.protectakote.co.za/prodinfo.asp       http://www.protectakote.co.za/contact.asp
http://www.duram.co.za/Products/prod-detail.asp?prod_ID=31

Rustoleum Road Warrior Truck Bed Coating is a two component epoxy product also claiming to “fade over time due to the suns ultra-violet rays”. Road Warrior contains silica sand to create a non slip surface. It looks and feels similar to 60 grit sandpaper with the sand grains spread very far apart. Directions say to use a spray protectant to restore the original look which sort of defeats the purpose. It's actually not a bad product but it's not very flexible and cracks easily as all epoxies will do. A kit contains ¾ gallon of pigmented epoxy polymer and 1 quart of epoxy curing agent, roller, sanding block, drill mix blade and a paint brush - #7705498, $110.00 - $160.00. Pot life: 3 - 4 hours, 56% solids by volume.

Duplicolor Truck Bed Coating (old solvent base product) is a reasonably popular single component product made by Sherwin Williams. It has one of the lowest costs of all DIY products. Vinyl copolymer resins and MEK/Acetone/Toluene solvents make this product dry quite fast. Solvents listed make this product extremely flammable with a very strong odor. It will stand up to UV. In the can, it appears kind of thick but it contains only 25% solids content with over 75% solvent (very high VOCs). This translates into extremely low dry film thickness unless 4 or 5 coats are applied. There are many mixed reviews out there on this Duplicolor product and it has been on the market for quite a long time. Poor adhesion seems to be one of its shortcomings and this is mainly due to inadequate surface preparation and the fact that vinyl copolymer resins do not have the best adhesion to previously painted surfaces. Sold in gallons #TRG250 @ $62.00, quarts and spray cans. A very light texture is created using a plastic loop roller. No pot life, 25% solids by volume.

U-POL Raptor is a 2 component urethane bed liner with UV resistance. Raptor is made in the UK and has become a popular product over the past few years mainly for its nice packaging. The kit contains 4 bottles that screw up directly under the spray gun. Raptor is designed to spray and we had a hard time rolling it on anything larger than a small test panel. Fast evaporating solvents (MEK/Acetone) caused the roller to tack up when spreading over a large area. Our tests did reveal one significant issue with flexibility. U-POL Raptor flexibility is very poor. After curing only 5 days, the coating cracks very easily with just slight bending of the sample panel we rolled. Available in 1 gallon kits in black #UP0820 and tintable #UP0821 @ $124.00. Pot life: 60 mins, 50% volume solids. To make colors, the user needs to purchase additional automotive paint or automotive colorant and mix that into the bottles at time of use. As with all paints tinted outside the factory, some colors will require additional coats to obtain complete coverage.

Duplicolor Bed Armor is a new product made by Sherwin Williams. Bed Armor is a one component water base urethane that contains fine Kevlar particles which really does nothing to enhance durability but acts as a texturizing agent and an alternate to using crumb rubber. Bed Armor claims to be UV protected and we believe this is correct. We were not impressed at all with this product. Even with constant stirring, it was very difficult to keep the Kevlar material from clumping together resulting in a terrible and non-uniform texture. We were quite surprised with the poor results during testing and thought we had a bad can so we ordered another online instead of buying it locally. Same poor results! Shame on you Sherwin! This product is a disaster. Just look at the video on the Bed Armor web site and you can see that the texture obtained from rolling is terrible. They won't even show a close-up of the results in their own promotional video.
Contains Bis(2-ethylhexyl) Phthalate, CAS # 117-81-7 which EPA has listed as a "probable human carcinogen"
See here for the data http://www.epa.gov/IRIS/subst/0014.htm

Bed Armor is available in quarts and 1 gallon kits with roller, tray, brush and scuff pad. Gal kits #BAK2010 @ $80.00 - $100.00. No pot life, 43% volume solids

Hippo-Liner is made by Dominion Sure Seal of Canada and is a 2 part urethane bedliner coating. Hippo has no UV protection as it is based on an aromatic isocyanate rather than an aliphatic isocyanate which would offer the best UV stability. Hippo-Liner is mainly designed for spray application and is difficult to roll uniformly because it contains solvents that evaporate very quickly and the roller tacks up too fast in the wet coating. Not a bad product if you can deal with the lack of UV protection. Available in small kits containing 1.7 liters (less than 1/2 gallon) with minimum of 2 kits or ideally 3 kits required to do most projects correctly. Black only #BHBL @ $75.00. Pot life: 30 mins, 52% volume solids

Color Your Hippo sprayable bedliner is a tintable version of Hippo-Liner from Dominion. Color Your Hippo is made from aliphatic isocyanates so it does have UV protection. This is not a bad product. To make the color, the user needs to purchase additional automotive paint or automotive colorant and mix that into the Color Your Hippo at time of use. Because Color Your Hippo was designed for spray and contains fast solvents it is also difficult to roll with good results. Available in 1.7 liter kits #BCYH @ $87.00. Multiple kits required for small bed or tub. Pot life: 60 - 75 mins, 50% volume solids

Gator Guard II is also made by Dominion Sure Seal of Canada and is a 2 part epoxy bedliner coating. The "B" component is thicker than peanut butter. Since epoxies offer no UV protection, Gator Guard will chalk and fade significantly when exposed to direct sunlight. Contains a very large non-slip material and its surface is extremely rough and hard to clean. Some of the texture particles are surprisingly sharp almost like shards of glass. We rolled Gator Guard and it's surface looks and feels like a 12 Grit sandpaper. The data sheet for this product says that the white cures to a yellowish white. This is because it is made from epoxy resins which will naturally yellow and chalk on ageing and when exposed to UV. Available in 1.7 liter #BGG2/#BGG2W @ $65.00 and 6.8 liter kits @ $225.00 in both white or black. At least 2 of the small kits are needed to do a small bed or tub. Pot life: 45 - 60 minutes, 50% volume solids

PlastiKote is a water base acrylic-latex bed liner with crumb tire rubber for texture. It is made by the Valspar Corporation. Has a reasonably low ammonia like odor, dries fairly fast but is nothing special. It's probably pretty good to line your little red Radio Flyer wagon. Has a fairly rough surface like Herculiner and Durabak. PlastiKote bed liner is available in gallons #256, $60 - $80

POR-15 POW-R-LINER is a 2 part urethane bedliner. Since POR-15 does not make any of its own products we studied their MSDS carefully and decided with a high level of confidence that this product is U-POL Raptor with a POR-15 label. We have not done actual testing of this product. Refer to the U-POL Raptor review above for details on this product. POR-15 POW-R-LINER is available in 1 gallon kits @ $179.50, Yikes!

SEM Products Rock-it is another 2 component urethane and was developed to compete with the U-POL Raptor. We have not tested this product yet so we do not have much to say. We did hear of a recent product recall regarding the catalyst portion. Available as 1 gallon kits in black @ $100.00 and tintable @ $105.00. Pot life: 60 mins, 48% volume solids

 
Title: Re: Bed Liner?
Post by: Ddub1973 on April 05, 2012, 07:44:45 AM
I used the EZ liner (from Canadian Tire) on my grill and also did a 4 inch strip on the front of the hood.  I just bought three cans to do it all and it only cost me $30.  It looks awesome and it works fantastic.  I also did a set of nerf bars for my friends jeep.

http://www.jeepscanada.com/showthread.php?t=123174