Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: dubbleJs on January 25, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
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Im trying to get this old Champion winch working, I pulled the motor and cleaned it all up. Sometimes the solenoids click and sometimes they just barely...twitch. The winch works to spool in but not out. Im thinking there is 1 or more faulty solenoids.
Where can I buy these??
I've tried Crappy tire, auto value and PA.
Gregg dist maybe?
Here's a pic
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/Hondaddict/champwinch.jpg)
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I've seen a fair number of solenoids but nothing quite like that. Do those bottom plastic plates come off? You might be better off trying to adapt something else.....
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would ford starter solenoids work??? not sure of the duty cycle on the starter solenoid variety.
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No the plates dont come off...its pretty much a 1 peice sealed unit it seems.
Not sure about starter solenoids...there's gotta be a direct replacement for these out there somewhere...OR someone has an old Champion collecting dust they want to part out?...
I found a similar looking one at AutoValue, it has the 2 big and 1 small wire terminals like these, but it mounts on its side so they would have to sit loose inside the winch..
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Putting on the bumper and getting the winch going...we maybe pushing our luck this year now that we can get really stuck!!!
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You might be able to rig any Continous/constant duty 12volt solenoid. Most solenoids that have the two small posts require one of the posts to be grounded like any relay. A solenoid with one post is internally grounded through it's mounting service. The key ingredient here is to have a good quality solenoid for constant duty. A ford solenoid (old fender mount) will not last as they are not constant duty and are only like to be latched for maybe 8 seconds. Get one that takes good amperage as well. Getting one the same could be a challange, check cole hersee product? Also check with amperage tech in NE calgary
I actually use these solenoids instead of relays on my truck for fan and accessories as I can run upto 40 amps for long periods without problems and corrosion. If they die you attach both wires to one post and drive home.
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Canadian Tire sells a constant duty solenoid in the RV section. It looks just like a Ford unit and sells for about 20 bucks each.
I believe they are rated for 80 amps continous and 160 amp spike.
I have used one on my last Jeep for the dual battery setup and it worked flawlessly for over 3 years.
I also believe when the solenoids are used in a winch application they use 2 at a time (hence 4 solenoids per winch), if that's the case, 4 of these should work fine.
Vince
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you can order them from chamion power products. Just google them. Good customer service.
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Talk to Amperage Technologies. I have had my winch serviced there a couple times
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you can order them from chamion power products. Just google them. Good customer service.
Good call, thanks. I gave them a shout and talked to a helpful guy for a bit. I'm gonna bench test the motor to make sure it actually will work both ways. If that works out and it is the solenoids, they have them for about $10/each plus shipping. Probably work out alot cheaper than the ones I've found in town for $35 each.
Putting on the bumper and getting the winch going...we maybe pushing our luck this year now that we can get really stuck!!!
Haha! Yup...will be great. 8)
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Buy a few extras...... ;)