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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:34:21 PM

Title: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:34:21 PM
I'm trying to see from which vehicle my rear axle that has BOM # 603716-18 came from... supposed to be from a 1995 ram 2500 D60 FF... It is a D60FF  

The # does not show on the Dana site either


I'm getting conflicting info... and I'm just about to throw my PC out the f-ing window.

Anyone has a site  they prefer for BOMs?

Thanks in advance
Dom
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 05, 2011, 08:44:12 PM
603716-18

1977 1/2- 78 F-250 3/4 Ton HD 4x2 Pick-up - Full-Float

3.73 carrier

do the search for part number in the Dana bible
http://www2.dana.com/pdf/X510-8DSD.pdf
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:47:03 PM
I know but it show that axle to be a 30 spline axle...F me! ^(&*) &*^$&^#%^$&*(^*(


I have to take the diff apart...
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: Spinalguy on January 05, 2011, 08:47:57 PM
?
http://www2.dana.com/pdf/X510-8DSD.pdf (http://www2.dana.com/pdf/X510-8DSD.pdf)
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 05, 2011, 08:50:30 PM
oh i get it, you want more SCHPLINE THAN I HAVE!!!!!!!?????

prob just need a 35 spline detroit and new shafts..  or do they come with 40 spline? or bigger?
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
?
http://www2.dana.com/pdf/X510-8DSD.pdf (http://www2.dana.com/pdf/X510-8DSD.pdf)

You just type your BOM in the "find" window on top and it looks through the 200 and some pages for you
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:52:35 PM
oh i get it, you want more SCHPLINE THAN I HAVE!!!!!!!?????

prob just need a 35 spline detroit and new shafts..  or do they come with 40 spline? or bigger?

I just didn't expect to buy shafts... it was dupposed to be a 35 splines HPD60 FF


I was able to unscrew the 2 bolts that was holding the tag by hand.... may be it's not the right tag... I'll need to take them apart to double check.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: Spinalguy on January 05, 2011, 08:54:22 PM
i also found this:
"My axle is BOM 603716 18. Online, I can’t find it. A trip to Six States however, and a call to spicer, yielded the proper book, and whoala! A 1977.5-78 F250 2WD FF/30 SPL. For the later 70’s, early 80’s, this is probably the common axle"

and this:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291250 (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291250)
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 05, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
poopy.  i'll come over and hug you tomorrow after work if you want.

[spoiler] please say yes, i don't wanna be home on girls night [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:56:16 PM
I did read these 2 threads Tom.. it's just not what I want to hear.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 08:57:58 PM
poopy.  i'll come over and hug you tomorrow after work if you want.

[spoiler] please say yes, i don't wanna be home on girls night [/spoiler]
.. Bring the gun show...we'll move the rear axle in the garage
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: Spinalguy on January 05, 2011, 09:08:24 PM
now that i am done researching :D i can read this thread and see that Al had the answer waaaaaay earlier :doh:
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 05, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
what can i say, i run dual monitors and my google is strong
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 05, 2011, 09:11:19 PM
LOL.. all good  brother   ;D
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 05, 2011, 09:11:23 PM
.. Bring the gun show...we'll move the rear axle in the garage

deal my friend.  i'll even bring the smoking gun
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: raf2379 on January 05, 2011, 10:48:10 PM
Dom when are you planning on taking the sexties to the strippers... i mean for some sandblasting? i should be home in a week if you still want to stick to the original plan. and how did the bumper work out for you?
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: SwampSinger on January 06, 2011, 12:09:23 PM
yep Raf... the strippers it is!!!

I can't get my trailer out of my back yard though... we'll have to figure something .

My axles are heavy
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 06, 2011, 01:26:11 PM
yes you can, or is your winch that rusty from lack of use?
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: hps4evr on January 06, 2011, 04:02:37 PM
hey Dom, after researching inof for my d60's, i found that the rear d60 needs the spindles machined out to accept the 35 spline axles. now that may only be on my ford '78 full float d60 or it may be for all of them. something to look into if you really want the 35 spline shafts. yukon makes chromo in both version.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: raf2379 on January 06, 2011, 08:40:16 PM
few basic tools needed to drill out spindle. i'll be drilling mine out to accept 35 splines.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: hps4evr on January 06, 2011, 09:55:35 PM
few basic tools needed to drill out spindle. i'll be drilling mine out to accept 35 splines.

well, let me know how it goes for you. id be interested in the same for mine. no offence but you can play guinea pig ;D

ive read a few threads on pirate and some guys are cutting the spindles off to put them on a lathe and re-welding them back onto the housing, seems like a lot of work though. post up results.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: cLAY on January 06, 2011, 10:14:16 PM
I've been running my Dodge rear D60 for almost 15 years now on the original shafts. The axle has been in 3 different wheeling rigs now. The first being a 1/2ton Dodge with a mildly built 360 and 35" tires. I've never broken anything on it.

Unless youare putting it in something with 40"+ tires and big HP or just want the bragging rights of having a 35spline D60 why bother? Spend the money/effort somewhere else.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 06, 2011, 10:39:50 PM
he is [will be] 37or38" beadlocked and spooled.  30 spline is nice, but 35 is a good feeling to have.  the traction he will be putting down can [and will] put a lot more stress on the shafts than a typical rig with 35"  especially when we go to moab.  it's really just extra work, not extra $ so why not?
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: raf2379 on January 06, 2011, 11:37:39 PM
Both Valid points cLAY and FiEND, it all comes down to the size of tires and the HP/TQ you will be running. I believe Dom you will be running a spool as well right? I may self will only be running 36" iroks for now so the 30 spline should be good enough, but i'll be the guinea pig for this little mod, i'll let you know how hard it was to do.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: cLAY on January 06, 2011, 11:38:38 PM
Sorry still not seeing it, mine's been spooled(welded) since day one, I'm running 36" tires and have been to Moab with it twice, second time was in my heavy ZJ with the V8.

If thats what he wants then go for it but its by no means needed....

I would strongly suggest putting the effort into shaving it instead.

Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 06, 2011, 11:55:40 PM
you didn't mention beadlocks.  dropping tires down to basically nothing and jamming them between rocks ... well, i don't know how or what you wheel but I know there's pretty much nothing i can do to break my rear end unless i forget to check the fluid. 

sure, 30 spline may work, but if they dont he will be kicking himself for not spending the extra few hours.  imagine that when he is 2000km from home.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 07, 2011, 12:00:18 AM
not to mention he has 29 splines now.  he would never live it down...

"Dom did what?  he spend umpteen hundred dollars for one more spline"  haha :D
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 07, 2011, 12:19:31 AM
shaving it also looks worthwhile.  good benefit for a little bit of time and effort.

(http://www.billhughes.com/temp/dana60inbetween.jpg)
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: cLAY on January 07, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
Ya you got me there... no beadlocks... :o I bet that would have got me up Potato Salad hill! Ya thats it, it was the rims fault..... ::)


Thats the nice thing about a full floating axle, break an axle, just keep on driving. I left mine stock so that if I ever break one I just spend $30 getting another. After 10 years of tripping over my spare shafts I finally tossed them.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: raf2379 on January 07, 2011, 10:09:49 AM
is that jessi comb riding the d60? she annoys me, she ruined some myth busters episodes for me.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: specialk on January 07, 2011, 10:56:08 AM
I like how she is caressing the D60... 
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: FiEND on January 07, 2011, 03:04:20 PM
Dom's garage tonight, D60 caressing party
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: hps4evr on January 07, 2011, 05:00:32 PM
shaving it also looks worthwhile.  good benefit for a little bit of time and effort.

(http://www.billhughes.com/temp/dana60inbetween.jpg)


ummm, guys? the only thing she caresses is carpet. she prefers girls. thats why shes not on extreme 4x4.
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: w squared on January 07, 2011, 05:59:32 PM
ummm, guys? the only thing she caresses is carpet. she prefers girls. thats why shes not on extreme 4x4.

Heeps? That shiz won't deflate their fantasies...only make them more vivid  ;D
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: cLAY on January 14, 2011, 03:08:35 PM
http://www.jpmagazine.com/featuredvehicles/154_0608_new_jeep_parts/photo_01.html

Now thats pretty slick!
Title: Re: Bill of Material
Post by: raf2379 on January 15, 2011, 12:58:05 AM
$621, it be a good investment for a shop building axles. its a nice tool.

http://www.ringpinion.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=5263

pocket change  ;)