Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: 1stjeep.ro on January 22, 2011, 07:59:51 PM
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Hi everybody, A new lift is just around the corner for my JK and it will make it look like a skateboard. ( not good ) My question to you is, Where do you gentlemen go buy your tires ( im looking for Toyo Open COuntry 35's) I checked the decent places such as Tire Rack & Discount tire but no luck on those. Anybody?
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country tire service in westwinds in the NE.
toyo's are not a cheap tire, but they have good service and will go outside the reccomended specs for the tire if you want them to.
tell them steve from costco sent you, may get a little bit of a deal, maybe ;)
403-590-1521.
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Jay @ Chanda I believe can get in Toyos too, should look him up.
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Jay @ Chanda I believe can get in Toyos too, should look him up.
+1 on jay. He will quote you a fair price. Just remember that Toyos are never cheap :)
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Either the TOyos or the Mtr's Kevlars
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i got a guy in edmonton that gives me pretty decent deals
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For what size wheel are you looking for? Also Mud Terrain or All Terrain?
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For what size wheel are you looking for? Also Mud Terrain or All Terrain?
either my 18" stock saharas or 17" procomp 7028 . Mud & All terrain, Depending on pricing and such however I love the way the Toyos look.
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That's some expensive "looking good"
What you're being asked is if you want an All terrain tire which works well for on road and it's performance suffers in the mud, or a Mud-terrain tire which will be noisier on the road and generally won't provide good winter on-road performance. You will need to make a decision on this before anyone can help you out.
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For 90% of people on this forum, and certainly for anybody going for looks, a mud terrain is really the only choice. Unless you buy some extremely gnarly mud terrains the extra noise is negligible. Just read reviews on whatever tire you choose, so you don't get suprised.
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For 90% of people on this forum, and certainly for anybody going for looks, a mud terrain is really the only choice. Unless you buy some extremely gnarly mud terrains the extra noise is negligible. Just read reviews on whatever tire you choose, so you don't get suprised.
Yes, Dont get me wrong guys, I LOVE offroading and Im not just a mall crawler. However I do expect to drive on these tires on the street/highway. This is my first jeep and I want to do it right the first time. Even the stock dueler tires on my sahara wheels did fine when I went to Mclean Creek, but since I'm doing an OME LT lift I might as well throw on some of those big bad boys and I can join the 35" club! I guess the right question to ask here is what kind of tires do you gentlemen preffer to use? ( both offroad & on road)
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my top pick is the Toyo open country MT's I run them year round and love them. As far as road noise you don't even know they are mud tires . Great tire in all round .
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my top pick is the Toyo open country MT's I run them year round and love them. As far as road noise you don't even know they are mud tires . Great tire in all round .
i agree.
But now that i have Nitto Trail Grappler MT's on my truck, i would rawk those on a jeep.
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I might as well throw on some of those big bad boys and I can join the 35" club!
Now I have only just been out for my first run this past weekend, so I really don't know a lot about it, but the more that I am reading on tires/wheels and the rolling weight of them, the more I am questioning the need for 35" tires. Especially with the JK where unless you have a Rubi, it is almost a given that you will need to re-gear.
So I guess my question (sorry to hijack your thread a little 1stjeep) is, what really is the benefit of upgrading to a 35" vs sticking with a 32/33" size?
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The best advice I have got since you a running a 17 or 18 and doing lots of city driving like myself....
1. Try and go with a skinny tire if you are driving onthe road lots, maybe something that comes out to 35x11.2 or whatever I don't really know the size options available, This will make road handling, mpg, and wear on components noticably less
2. Get a lighter tire, I here toyo's are great but heavy
As for the brand, I would say any big name Goodyear MTR, BFG KM2, and many other big names will have comparable tires. Really whatever you can get a deal on or like the most
Best site I have found for comparing tires
http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/Goodyear-Wrangler-MTR.htm
All the different tires in the lefthand colum, just click and you have acess to dozens of reviews in differing condtions
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So I guess my question (sorry to hijack your thread a little 1stjeep) is, what really is the benefit of upgrading to a 35" vs sticking with a 32/33" size?
Bigger tires = bigger footprint/surface area = more flotation on mud and snow, more traction on smooth rock, more ability to climb up over obstacles
Also bigger tires = your axles are further from the ground = more clearance under your diffs
Essentially, bigger tires (up to a point) are more capable off road. I liked my rig off road with 32's and a 3" lift...but I still gained a lot of off road performance when I switched to 35's.
It doesn't matter what flavour of Jeep you drive...unless you already have 4.10's, you're probably going to want (need?) to regear if/when you go to 35's.
I'd also like to second Jay's comment on the Toyo Open Country MT. For an MT, they're great on the road, and they work great off-road too.
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It doesn't matter what flavour of Jeep you drive...unless you already have 4.10's, you're probably going to NEED to regear if/when you go to 35's.
Fixed it for you. Night & day comparison from big tires and little gears to big tires with bigger gears.
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Fixed it for you.
How long have you been waiting to do that to me Trev?
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I work in oilfield construction and I have a couple construction inspectors that spend upwards of 80,00km a year driving on a variety of terrain (highway, gravel, mud, snow/ ice)
One of them has run through 2 sets of 37" Toyo Open County MT's on one Sierra Crew Cab and is now on a set of 35" Open Country MT's on a new sierra crew cab and he really likes them.
Another swore by Interco TRXS STS radials. He claimed they were the best mix of on-road manners, snow & ice handling and off road traction tires that he'd found. He had 35's on an H2.
I've had a set of Pro-Comp MT's (31'a) for about 3 years and I'm pretty happy with them, however I've only had them truly off-roading for maybe 6 or 7 days in the last three years though so I can't really say much about their off-road durability. They make the most noise around 50 km/hr but quiet down some at highway speed. As mentioned by others, they're an MT and aren't a very good winter / ice tire.
Hope that helps
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Those Procomp wheels are about $295ea and about 4 weeks away.
the 35X12.50R17 Toyo Open Country MTs are $373ea
and the 35X12.50R18 Toyo Open Country MTs are $438ea
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BrokenAxle is hooking me up with DuraTracs for road use and the Kevlars on the newly order beadlocks right away
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Newly ordered beadlocks eh Kev ;) I saw the pictures from the weekend! Looks like you had some fun out there!
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Bigger tires = bigger footprint/surface area = more flotation on mud and snow, more traction on smooth rock, more ability to climb up over obstacles
Also bigger tires = your axles are further from the ground = more clearance under your diffs
Essentially, bigger tires (up to a point) are more capable off road. I liked my rig off road with 32's and a 3" lift...but I still gained a lot of off road performance when I switched to 35's.
It doesn't matter what flavour of Jeep you drive...unless you already have 4.10's, you're probably going to want (need?) to regear if/when you go to 35's.
I'd also like to second Jay's comment on the Toyo Open Country MT. For an MT, they're great on the road, and they work great off-road too.
And it's the NEED to regear that is probably what would hold me back from going to 35's...for now. I don't want to go and sink a bunch of money in right away and find out in a year that I would have rather taken a different direction. I would however like a more aggressive tire so I am thinking I might stay closer to the 33" tire but try and get as much width as I can out of them for the larger footprint.
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How long have you been waiting to do that to me Trev?
A LONNNNNNGGGGGGGGG time.
Newly ordered beadlocks eh Kev ;) I saw the pictures from the weekend! Looks like you need them! Do they come with a pink sticker too?
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If I ran my Jeep mostly on the road I would definetly get an AT tire. I've had Mt's for the last 4 sets of tires on my Jeep and Truck and there is no way you need to be running a MT on the road if ya only wheel the odd time a year. They just wear fast, are loud, and if ya don't take care of them they will cup and such. That said, of coasre I have MT's on my Jeep. But I only drive it for fun as well.
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They just wear fast, are loud, and if ya don't take care of them they will cup and such. That said, of coasre I have MT's on my Jeep. But I only drive it for fun as well.
All of those things are true if you buy inexpensive MT's and/or don't keep an eye on your tire pressure, or don't rotate them.
The shop that sold me my 35" Toyo MT's did an alignment on my rig about 20,000K after I bought the tires...and the owner of the shop commented to me that the tires were wearing completely evenly - there was no sign of any wear pattern at all. I've also run a set of BFG MT's for better than 40,000K before selling them...and they were still at 75% when I sold 'em to the roomate of a guy on the board. She's super-happy with the tires, and I wouldn't be surprised to see her get another 40,000K out of them.
No tire is magical, and some MT's just plain suck on the road...but if you buy the right MT's, they'll be relatively easy to live with on the road.