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4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: owen2 on April 10, 2011, 06:55:09 PM

Title: how much lift
Post by: owen2 on April 10, 2011, 06:55:09 PM
Hi I just bought a jeep a 94 yj for 500 bucks. And was wondering how much lift I need to fit a set of 36 inch tires
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: Knox on April 10, 2011, 08:05:40 PM
are you willing to cut the fenders? are you planning on upgrading the axles?

if not (fender cutting) whats it take guys like 4"Coil + 1.5" BL?
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: BlackYJ on April 10, 2011, 08:56:21 PM
are you willing to cut the fenders? are you planning on upgrading the axles?

if not (fender cutting) whats it take guys like 4"Coil + 1.5" BL?

Coil lift on a YJ  :o :o

To fit 36s on a YJ you are probably going to need around 4-4.5" of suspension lift, plus I would install 0.5" shackle lift and then 1" body lift.  In addition for good measure I would look at installing TJ flares as well as they open up the wheel wells for more room
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 10, 2011, 10:11:25 PM
silly knox,  coils on a TJ yo.

leafs on a YJ lol

i ran 4.5" rubicon express springs/shocks and a 2" body lift.  i also have TJ flares and hacked back the tub in the rear to clear em.  ran 36" iroks with no issues. 

your axles on 36s will not be happy.  i kept eating front end components...... your rear D35 will not be happy either.......

so ya, it is not a big deal to fit them, but your axles will need to be addressed.........  at least, i think so.

i dropped down from the iroks to 35s because i got sick of breaking the D30... rears an 8.8. it holds up ok.

good luck with your 500$ jeep!  score!
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: LEMON-AID JAY on April 10, 2011, 10:47:08 PM
Hi I just bought a jeep a 94 yj for 500 bucks. And was wondering how much lift I need to fit a set of 36 inch tires


I can get you some high clearance fenders fit 35" tires on stock suspension.
http://www.tntcustoms.com/Jeep_Tube_Fenders_YJ.aspx
http://www.tntcustoms.com/yjcornerarmor.aspx
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: w squared on April 10, 2011, 11:06:23 PM
The question is not really "What do I have to do to fit 36's?"

the question is "What do I have to do to run 36's without breaking things all the time..."

OR

perhaps the question is "What size tire can I run within the budget I have..."

Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: mike s on April 11, 2011, 07:43:44 AM
sounds like the tires are worth more than the YJ...unless your 33's are holding you back, why bother?
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: BlackYJ on April 11, 2011, 12:46:27 PM
Why whenever someone asks about tire size, the topic always get hijacked and everyone starts talking about axles.   ???  He just asked a simple question amount lifts, geez
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: Spinalguy on April 11, 2011, 12:56:55 PM
if i paid 500 for a jeep, i would sawzall that thing to fit 36's with minimal lift.
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: owen2 on April 11, 2011, 03:10:18 PM
Well not to keen on the sawzzall idea the body is in great shape so a 4" and a 3"
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: Spinalguy on April 11, 2011, 04:18:11 PM
Well not to keen on the sawzzall idea the body is in great shape so a 4" and a 3"

i would not do more than 1" body and if i realllllly had to, 2" most. Definitely not 3".
When i said sawzall, you could flat fender it, cut wheel well openings bigger. Run TJ flares in the rear. You can sawzall/cut and still make it look really good.
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 11, 2011, 04:52:31 PM
they will fit just fine at 4" and 2" bodylift. 
you can hack the rear fenderwell out to clear 36s. in fact you can probalby do it on 5" of lift.  even a 3 1/2" ilft and 1" bodylift (what i wish i had) check out my jeep. you can't even tell i cut anything.

even at that lift hieght of 4" susp and 3" body, you might hit the rear tub at flex.

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/DSC00494.jpg)

Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: Knox on April 11, 2011, 07:17:17 PM
silly knox,  coils on a TJ yo.

i can't even say that it was late... 8:05pm...

but my numbers were close :P
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: owen2 on April 13, 2011, 02:22:28 PM
What about doing an soa. Is it a better op and is it any cheaper
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 13, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
yes and no.

either way you have to add new shocks, so thats an expense for both SOA and SUA.

if you go spring over axle (SOA) you are going to run into axlewrap issues most likely, and definitly will be taxing your driveline angles. even at 4" a tcase drop is necessary! (usually)   also, axlewrap sucks.  you also have to weld the new spring perches in too.  not a biggie, if you're a welder i guess!
doesn't mean its not an option.... but there are plenty of 4" kits out there reasonably priced........
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: BlackYJ on April 13, 2011, 03:32:16 PM
What about doing an soa. Is it a better op and is it any cheaper


A spring over with stock springs will net you about 5.5-6" of lift.  As Johnny mentioned driveline angles became a big issue and a SYE will be a must as with a trackbar of some sort.  You can use stock YJ springs but you will probably eat through those pretty quick.  In addition, steering becomes an issue and you really need to think it thru to have it done correctly and safely.

In the end a SUA will probably be easier but fitting 36s on a YJ will not be cheap no matter which way you go
Title: Re: how much lift
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 13, 2011, 04:18:37 PM
sorry yes, Scott is bang on.

i think you will need to goto a highsteer setup, or a longer dropped pitman arm to make steering work....


i had debated it when i did my lift, but lazy factor (i can't weld) led me to the 4.5" springs and some modest ;) fender clearing would also allow the 36s, so i went that way, mostly because i didn't know much about steering at that time, and i don't like axlewrap!